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MeepMeep (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
I missed a turn because of the server error.
Hi, This morning I could not log in.
"Apologies for the downtime, the server ran out of disk space. Our new disk will be configured this weekend. All games have been given extra time to compensate. Thanks for your patience."

As the result, one of my game missed a turn. Everyone else moved excepted me. What do I do now?
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
12 Apr 13 UTC
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WebDip vs VDip
Not sure if this has already been posted here, but Gen Lee suggested a tournament between the best players here and the best players on VDip, including Classic games and variant games to give both factions some home ground to fight on.
Any of you up for it? We've already got a small team together and hopefully some of the other top VDip players will volunteer soon.
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twinsnation (503 D(B))
14 Apr 13 UTC
vite 2 needs one player
game starts in 5 minutes one more required
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Apr 13 UTC
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Corée du Nord (That means North Korea)
A statement I heard today:

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blankflag (0 DX)
14 Apr 13 UTC
The Problem of Money
I just jumped from being in the 15th percentile of wealth to 5th because of some market shorting - that was because of luck mostly.
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SYnapse (0 DX)
14 Apr 13 UTC
MODS - Game stuck
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=111195

Loading order...
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Apr 13 UTC
The Future of Tournaments webDip
As webDip grows, we need to relook at some of our old policies. The Mods have decided that it's time we rethink how Tournaments are done. I'm currently sitting in while most of the Mods are away, so I figured I'd get the community's input now, for them to consider when they get back.
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dannysparkes (397 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
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V Web diplomacy ego's
When the site went down last night i signed up to the v web diplomacy site and checked the forum and one thread suggests that the players in the top forty are better than the top 400 here. What a bunch of tosh they are really up on themselves :(
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Halt (270 D)
13 Apr 13 UTC
The Problem of Points
I just jumped from 15% to 5% because of a gunboat game - that was won because of luck mostly.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
13 Apr 13 UTC
Just came up with an opening for Italy I've never heard anyone about...
It probably has been discussed/done before but I don't think I ever heard/saw it...
Ven-Tyr, Rome-Nap, Nap-Ion.

It's not really offensive at all to Austria and it leaves open a load of possibilities... What do you think?
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
13 Apr 13 UTC
Circle Triangle Square
Aïkido concepts in the strategies of Diplomacy play.
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JoSo (291 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Has anyone seen a game glitch like this;
Newly built fleet in Moscow in World version of game, can not move to Ukraine or Arminia, can not support to hold anything, can support to move only units going to Black Sea. It's as if Black Sea is the only recognized adjacent area. by can not I mean drop down menus of locations only have Black Sea or are blank. Nothing currently in the Black Sea.
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Tagger (129 D)
13 Apr 13 UTC
How do i set up a tournament?
How do i set up a tournament?
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Thatcher's Funeral
Since the "Maggie Thatcher Dead at 87" thread has turned into a debate about the IRA specifically, I wanted to voice my opinion about a seperate issue relating to Mrs. Thatcher's death.
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semck83 (229 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
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Maggie Thatcher Dead at 87
http://news.sky.com/story/1075292/margaret-thatcher-dies-after-stroke
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semck83 (229 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
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One of the most impactful persons of the 20th century.

RIP.
Octavious (2701 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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You don't find many with that level of courage and determination. She'll be missed.
SYnapse (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Yep.
SYnapse (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
I feel neither disrespect nor respect
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
08 Apr 13 UTC
Great politician, terrible economist.
It proves a point though, you can't run the UK economy like your dad run his corner shop, and taking advice from an American actor on monetary policy was a recipe for disaster.
Sadly there was nobody strong enough within the Conservative Party to walk alongside her politically and those that dare question her were dealt with swiftly and decisively.
I think former Labour Leader John Smith said of his Mrs Thatchers years that 'history will not judge her kindly' and looking back I think he was probably right.
Margaret Thatcher, milk snatcher.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher#Sourced
Fasces349 (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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Second best British Prime Minister of the 20th century.

@Nigee: I don't know what your smoking, but English GDP doubled while she was Prime Minister, if that is considered failed economics, what economic policy isn't a failure?

China and India are the only two countries that presently have economic growth that could match Britain's during the 1980s. So I guess China and India are failing economically right now.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Forgive me, my previous comment was wrong, GDP didn't double, it tripled.

English GDP 1978: 325.2 Billion
English GDP 1990: 1 trillion

SYnapse (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Fasces - is that adjusted to inflation?
dipplayer2004 (1110 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
A great lady, and a great leader. She will be missed.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Probably not, its GDP of the United Kingdom according to google.

GDP per capita adjusted for purchasing power:
1980: 8366.83
1991: 16580.07

So even if we use GDP, adjusted for population growth, inflation and purchasing power, she still doubled Britain GDP.

Not as impressive as my original post, but still hardly failed economics.
SYnapse (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Depends if you consider GDP to be a good measure of economic success.
hecks (164 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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There are many things of which GDP is not a good measure, but it would be difficult to argue that economic success is one of them.
SYnapse (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
What I mean is that she doubled GDP at the expense of many people living in appalling conditions, as well as causing civil unrest. A poor yet harmonious society is arguably more of a success than a rich and broken society.
hecks (164 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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It sounds like you're arguing that she was an economic success with serious human rights and civil liberties violations. At least, I'm pretty sure you'll have more success arguing it that way than saying that she was an economic failure.
Timur (673 D(B))
08 Apr 13 UTC
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I, for one, will not mourn her, having considered assassination in the 80s.
She destroyed any form of social cohesion we may have hoped to achieve. She broke the British society apart. If England was once Blighty, she was the blight who destroyed it.
Rest In Purgatory, ma'am
redhouse1938 (429 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
If she was so bad why did you reelect her all the time

trolololol
dipplayer2004 (1110 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Oh, balderdash.
dipplayer2004 (1110 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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One woman didn't do that. What did that was opening up your borders.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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If the average person is twice as rich as they were 10 years ago, I am willing to bet that a majority of the poor are significantly richer as well. Especially consider we all know (given how much politicians talk about it) that income equality was much better during the 80s then it is today. I can't find the stat for Britain, but for America in 1991 the 1% had 13% of the after tax income in the country, compared to the 24% today. Assuming Britain is more equitable then America (because it probably is), then for GDP to double, a majority of that wealth gain would have to come from the middle and lower classes.

Anti-thatchers first claim that she made the country poorer, when the actually statistics are thrown at them, they say she was bad for the poor, again when the statistics are given to them they talk about civil unrest and breaking society. Unfortunately there are no statistics that measure the merit of that argument.

All I can say to that though, was if she was as unpopular as people make her out to be, she probably would have lost an election, rather then won 4 straight majorities governments.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Please note, I agree that her popularity is insignificant when judging how valid her actions are. I'm just refuting the claim that she was unpopular.
Invictus (240 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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A great leader who, at least temporarily, halted Britain's slide into the status of a third-tier world power. She will be missed, but she was very old and had been sick for a long time, so this was probably a relief to her. I just wish she had died while I was studying abroad. Bitter leftwingers are gonna throw some awesome parties in the next few days.
Invictus (240 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
I'm also seriously thinking of muting Timur. Call me old-fashioned, but assassinating leaders who you happen to disagree with politically is never acceptable. What a nutcase if his claim is true, which I doubt.
SYnapse (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Are you sure Invictus? I would say it's a very patriotic thing to do, if you're the kind of person who believes in Thoreau's "Civil Disobedience".
hecks (164 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
@Fasces,
The linked paper would disagree with your hypothesis that salaries for the poor grew during the 1980s. The bottom 5 and 10th percentiles were, according to figure 2.4 (page 9) regressing ever year from 1978 to 1990, and the bottom quartile were stagnant.

http://www.econ.umn.edu/~fperri/papers/uk2.pdf

Can't vouch for the paper. It was just the first thing that came up on my google search that had a .edu or .gov domain.
Invictus (240 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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If you really believe that Thatcher was a dictator worthy of tyrannicide, SYnapse, then you're so far divorced from reality that it's not worth talking to you. In your own way, you're as delusional as the Tea Partiers who throw out the Jefferson quote about watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants because they don't like Obamacare.
SYnapse (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
I don't but if he truly believed it then he would have a civic duty to assassinate her.
Invictus (240 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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John Hinckley truly believed Jodie Foster would fall in love with him if he killed Reagan. Just because someone believes something doesn't make it true or right.
SYnapse (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
Yes, but that is why insanity is a defence to murder.
SYnapse (0 DX)
08 Apr 13 UTC
We are digressing. Your point "Call me old-fashioned, but assassinating leaders who you happen to disagree with politically is never acceptable" is fundamentally wrong. I don't want to Godwin this conversation, but, well, you know.
Invictus (240 D)
08 Apr 13 UTC
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It's not wrong. If a leader is oppressing people along the lines of an Assad or Hussein or Mao or the Shah or name-your-Latin-American-caudillo then that's a different issue and a right to revolution may exist. But killing Thatcher because she's a Tory and you're some kind of leftie isn't a legitimate excuse. It saddens me that you don't see this as self-evident.

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SYnapse (0 DX)
11 Apr 13 UTC
Art variant
You may only speak to other players through a piece of art of your choosing posted to the forum
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blankflag (0 DX)
13 Apr 13 UTC
adam gadahn, seriously?
as low as my credibility for the cia and corporate media are, how was adam gadahn on msnbc? american must be the joke of intelligent people everywhere at this point.
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SplitDiplomat (101466 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Is this the new web dip record?
Is this the fastest solo on web dip ever?
gameID=114948 just finished,very interesting game,congrats to the winner!
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Yonni (136 D(S))
11 Apr 13 UTC
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Creating an EOG periodical
I got the thought that it may be nice to create a collection of some of the sites best EOGs. I figure that people could point me in the direction of some of their favourites. I could give them a quick edit (to conform their styles at least) and then release them periodically as a collection. Ultimately, it would be cool to have them stored on a navigatable website. This is just a thought though so all action, of course, is pension my laziness.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
11 Apr 13 UTC
Does anybody here really understand 'Quantum Theory'?
Do you?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Apr 13 UTC
Mall shooting announce before hand on 4chan
Well, this is rather horrific...

http://gawker.com/5994549/the-virginia-mall-shooting-was-announced-in-advance-on-4chan
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Bob Genghiskhan (1233 D)
10 Apr 13 UTC
Want Turkish fleets in the Tyrrhenian Sea?
An object lesson in why the Crusher is a poor gunboat opening for Italy.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=114834
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Draugnar (0 DX)
11 Apr 13 UTC
The non-variant series...
I am thinking of starting a new series (passworded) wherein the buy-in is irrelavent because the points at the end of the game go back to the original polayers and the winner/drawees get nothing extra. This would eliminate the PPSC vs. WTA arguments and their issues as it wouldn't matter (although it would still affect GR, nothing I can do about that).

Anyone up for trying this out?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
12 Apr 13 UTC
FACE TO FACE DIPLOMACY TOURNAMENT SIGNUP
Come on guys!
https://sites.google.com/site/boroughsdiplomacy/
Register at [email protected]
May 18-19
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datapolitical (100 D)
11 Apr 13 UTC
My favorite war is...
I would like to say WW2 because its the war I've read the most about. But tbh it's the Six Day War. A small country dominating a much larger enemy through superior tactics. How can a diplomacy player not love that!
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SYnapse (0 DX)
10 Apr 13 UTC
Huxley or Darwin?
Frans de Waal describes two conflicting ideas of evolutionary ethics, Darwin’s “evolution of ethics” and Huxley’s “veneer theory.”
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erist (228 D(B))
12 Apr 13 UTC
Press tactics
What tactics do you use in your press to sow dissent, confirm rumors, get other people to move the way you want them too, etc?
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datapolitical (100 D)
12 Apr 13 UTC
Google plus hangout game?
So who's interested in a public press live game on google plus? (obviously it'd be gunboat on the site, because all communication would be done over video chat). We could broadcast the game so observers could see the conversation in real time.

I'm thinking 10 minutes per turn, Sunday afternoon at around 2PM PST.
How does that sound?
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
12 Apr 13 UTC
MASTERS TOURNAMENT
Weirsy and Couples, the two biggest beauties on tour.
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FlemGem (1297 D)
31 Mar 13 UTC
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Grant or Lee
Who was the better general? Discuss.....
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