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Enriador (100 D)
26 Oct 17 UTC
Mini-Tourney - Fast Game until Fall 1907!
Greetings!

With the mods' blessing, I would like to present "Empire's End" - a game following the spirit of the recent World Diplomacy Championship, as well as many other tournaments around the world.
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HBbuc (251 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
Join New Game
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jack90 (0 DX)
30 Oct 17 UTC
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brainbomb (290 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
Celebrate the Steelers getting obliterated by Detroit
GO LIONS GO LIONS GO LIONS
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springm4 (45 DX)
30 Oct 17 UTC
Something New
For the game, Something_new, password: annaputra, a substitue is looked. Its a game between people who know each other, friends, colleagues, etc.
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ND (879 D)
26 Oct 17 UTC
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Breaking News
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA
CLINTON and the DNC paid for the fake Russia Dossier and probably broke the law. They also approved a deal to give US uranium to RUSSIA. Special Prosecutor will be appointed to investigate this corruption.
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brainbomb (290 D)
28 Oct 17 UTC
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The Lion King is a statement about socialism
My gripe with the Lion King is that Scar is the hero. He overthrows a fucked up bourgoise and saves thousands of Hyenas living in poverty. After Simba flees Scar is totally written as converting the kingdom into a starving military dictatorship. This is absolutely a false representation of the amazing Utopia he envisioned. He said be prepared. I was ready. Why didnt his socialist revolution succeed?
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Durga (3609 D)
24 Oct 17 UTC
Murder Mystery Recommendations
What are your favourite murder mystery themed games (video games, not board games - don't even say clue), movies, shows, or books? Recommend them to me
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TrPrado (461 D)
01 Oct 17 UTC
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Catalonia Referendum
Catalonia intended to hold a referendum on independence from Spain. The Spanish high court ruled it would be illegal. Catalonia decided to hold it anyway, and police are attacking people intending to cast votes.

Thoughts?
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HBbuc (251 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Ranking countries by fun
I know this is totally subjective, but my list is
1.England 2.France 3.Turkey 4.Germany 5.Russia 6.Austria 7.Italy
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
27 Oct 17 UTC
If that's your list you clearly don't Key Lepanto enough :D

1.Italy 2.Austria 3.England 4.Germany 5.France 6.Russia 7.Turkey
StevenC. (1047 D(B))
27 Oct 17 UTC
1. England
2. Italy
3. Germany
4. France
5. Turkey
6. Austria
7. Russia
HBbuc (251 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Why do you guys have italy so high, I hate italy because you just don't have options early in the game.
StevenC. (1047 D(B))
27 Oct 17 UTC
You do if you make Austria your ally.
TrPrado (461 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
1) Austria
2) Russia
3) France
4) Turkey
5) England
6) Germany
7) Italy
uclabb (589 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
It's not close. Italy is by far the most fun. Italy had literally the most options early in the game. Literally the most.

1. Italy
2. Austria
3. France
4. Russia
5. England
6. Germany
7. Turkey
HBbuc (251 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
how so
brainbomb (290 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
1. Turkey
2. England
3. France
4. Russia
5. Italy
6. Germany
7..Austria
brainbomb (290 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Im defining fun as easiest pathway to success. Turkey needs to only break out of the corner in any of three directions and theyre death proof
TrPrado (461 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
“Italy had literally the most options early in the game. Literally the most. ”

If you don’t do anything. Austria and Germany have the most options and can do whatever off the bat. Austria has the most fun options. It’s also the most hands on.
ckroberts (3548 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
This is objective and undeniable:

1. Austria
2. France
(big gap)
3. Germany
4. Turkey
(big gap)
5. Russia
6. England
(big gap)
7. Italy
Octavious (2802 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Italy
Russia
France
England
Germany
Austria
Turkey

Turkey is just so boring.
TrPrado (461 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
I always cross my fingers to draw Austria. It’s the lynchpin of the east.
Octavious (2802 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Austria is too much down to luck, and if things go against you at the start is painfully unforgiving.
TrPrado (461 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
And making sure it doesn’t happen is what the game is about.
HBbuc (251 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Austria is fun, but when I play in person I always seem to draw it so I just got numb to it.

And I always lost
captainmeme (1723 DMod)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Apologies for my laziness here, I'm going to copy/paste a reddit post I made ages ago instead of writing a new one. It's about why Italy is better than stats make out, not why Italy is fun to play, but it gives a decent overview of why newer players find Italy less fun and why, to top level players, it's one of the most interesting positions on the board...

If you want a more detailed post, await the A_Tin_Can followup that I'm sure will be coming to this thread when he wakes up :D



[...] not only did Chris Brand top the final board at the World Championships last year with Italy (giving him the title of World Champion), there were also three other Italian solos in the tournament. Consider that there were only five solos over the entire thing, and you can see that Italy is not as weak as a lot of people make it out to be.

The thing about Italy is that it's incredibly well positioned, but its starting position is also misleading to less experienced players, because it's so easily defensible - but if you play defensively, you're never going to win. Italy's strength lies both in its ability to easily cross the stalemate line, and its ability to control the tempo on both sides of the board.

It's pretty common knowledge that, as an Eastern power, you want to keep the West in disarray for as long as possible, and as a Western power you want to do the same to the East. EFG are usually labelled as the 'Western Powers' and ART as the 'Eastern Powers', leaving Italy out. Since Austria and Germany both cannot cross the stalemate line early without essentially guaranteeing their own elimination, that leaves Russia and Italy as the only powers who can effectively control the tempo of both sides through their actions rather than just their words, and Italy can do it with minimal effort. A move to Piedmont in S01 hurts France's momentum and makes an E/G much more likely. Move that army to Tyrolia in F01 or S02 and you can aid the Frenchman against the German and the Englishman, balancing out that side of the board. Think that an EF is forming? Move that army back to Piedmont again and tie down a French unit and their southern build spot. Think an FG is forming? Send up another army and fill in Tyrolia and Piedmont to tie down at least two of their units.

The idea is that you keep the west balanced like this until you've made enough gains in the east (from Austria or Turkey, or both) to be able to launch an assault on Iberia or Germany. You can do this the other way around - try to balance the East with movements while you take Iberia - but that tends to fail against a Juggernaut, so I'd recommend doing it the way I talked about above.

That ability makes Italy one of the strongest, if not the strongest, soloing power. However, it requires a ton of knowledge about the game, judging board dynamics, and various other things which tend to require a good amount of experience. The country doesn't need a buff - the player just needs to be playing at a high level :)
HBbuc (251 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
I enjoy Turkey because of the Juggernaut of Russia and Turkey
Octavious (2802 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Ah, but with Austria you can't make sure. The amount of leverage you have in comparison to when you're Italy is tiny. As Austria you can be dead before you've even started getting to know who your killer actually is.
TrPrado (461 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Italy is well-positioned but that’s BORING
TrPrado (461 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Octavious:

Sounds to me like you’re bad at Austria ;)
TrPrado (461 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
The possibility of losing by 1903 is exciting. It makes getting to endgame more rewarding.
Octavious (2802 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Italy gives you the most time to get to know and understand your opponents, and through that take control of the board. And that is what the game's about :p.

As to whether I'm bad at Austria... yes, yes I am
TrPrado (461 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
“Italy gives you the most time to get to know and understand your opponents”

That’s slow and B O R I N G
Octavious (2802 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
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That's the sweet artistry of the game. Austria charges about like a bull in a Spanish street party. No style, no finesse, just a combination of hope and guesswork.

That's fast, but B O R I N G
MoscowFleet (129 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Austria
Italy
Germany
England
France
Russia

50 feet of crap

Turkey
TrPrado (461 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
“That's the sweet artistry of the game. Austria charges about like a bull in a Spanish street party. No style, no finesse, just a combination of hope and guesswork.”

I think I see your problem. It takes considerable finesse to go a long way as Austria. If you aren’t playing the scales and balance of power game heavier than everyone else, you’re lagging behind. Doing it with a deadline makes it more urgent. Urgency is exciting.
StevenC. (1047 D(B))
27 Oct 17 UTC
>Username is MoscowFleet
>Ranks Russia as 6th on his list

que
StevenC. (1047 D(B))
27 Oct 17 UTC
Also, meme is right about Italy. It can so easily throw a wrench into the plans of either the East or West and is easily defended. Also, as long as you're not having to fight Austria right off the bat you're pretty well positioned for the rest of the game.
dargorygel (2596 DMod(G))
27 Oct 17 UTC
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1) The position I won from.
2) The position I am winning from.
3) The position I need to be my ally.
4) The other nations.
5) The other nations
6) The other nations
7) The other nations

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brainbomb (290 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
Crossfit
Is making fun of crossfit a form of body shaming?
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twinsnation (508 D(B))
28 Oct 17 UTC
game
I would like password for upcoming game please
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Stressedlines (1559 D)
27 Oct 17 UTC
bergdahl trial
This man better get the Max sentence He left his post (by his own admission) The fact that men died looking for him later thrown on top of it, and this man needs to be put into prison for life.


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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
27 Oct 17 UTC
The faults in US media (The Muted Voices of the Damned)
After some discussion, a friend and I decided we wanted to do a dramatic piece on the faults of US Media, read below and discuss.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
26 Oct 17 UTC
Watches
I've cycled back around to watches, so I thought I'd see if anyone has anything cool in their collection they wanted to show off or just talk watches in general.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 Oct 17 UTC
Can omnipotent being of your choice...
Create the classical boulder too heavy for OBOYC to lift?
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
25 Oct 17 UTC
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First draft Ideas for a book.
I have started writing and would like feedback if this sounds at all interesting.

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brainbomb (290 D)
19 Oct 17 UTC
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Meth: Invented or Discovered?
Is Meth invented or discovered? Give your thoughts below.
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peterlund (1310 D(G))
26 Oct 17 UTC
Make America Nazi-Free Again!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/10/07/even-a-video-games-make-america-nazi-free-again-slogan-ticked-some-people-off/?utm_term=.82dd2df68450
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brainbomb (290 D)
25 Oct 17 UTC
Capitalism
Name a country using a true form of capitalism successfully.
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dargorygel (2596 DMod(G))
26 Oct 17 UTC
The Best Threads Are Woven at Night
Some Humanities student struggling to find a dissertation topic should evaluate whether or not my hypothesis that the best forum threads are posted at night is accurate. (And not just in the Western Hemisphere... The best English threads are posted during their night, etc..)
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taylor4 (261 D)
25 Oct 17 UTC
Advertise Non-live Games Here
Gunboat Classic 2-day Sign up 2 day. gameID=208861
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
25 Oct 17 UTC
Diplomacy Invented or Discovered.
Is diplomacy something we do natuarlly, a learned behaviuor or something we invented to excuse stabbing each other ??
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brainbomb (290 D)
24 Oct 17 UTC
Rabbits for Capt. Brad
Rabbits was cursed ever since they was stolen from the Native Americans. All the 'white' and 'brown' and 'black' and 'asian' rabbits (and any other non-native folks) should pack up and leave the pet cemetary to join Colonel von Brad in a potato peeling adventure. Who wants to be the rear admiral?
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grahamso1 (728 D)
24 Oct 17 UTC
What do I do if I suspect coordination/collusion in a gunboat game?
how do I report or get someone to investigate? (Can’t see “mod forum” here)
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yavuzovic (796 D)
24 Oct 17 UTC
Anti-Script code
It necessary but my friend can't join and he doesn't seem like a script. It says "cofe has given. He could not join.
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TooCoolSunday (634 D)
24 Oct 17 UTC
You've got to be joking - This is a first world nation?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-41727495/why-does-the-us-have-so-many-child-brides

I am just shocked. How can this be happening?
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ubercacher16 (283 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
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Mute Forum
Is there a way to mute the entire forum?
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Peregrine Falcon (9010 D(S))
21 Oct 17 UTC
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FvA Practice
I could use some FvA practice. Here are 4 games. Feel free to join as many or little as you want. Pw: Practicemakesperfect
gameID=208618 gameID=208617
gameID=208616 gameID=208615
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brainbomb (290 D)
23 Oct 17 UTC
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The continuing adventures of brainbomb
On saturday morning around 1-3 AM my car was stolen from right in front of my house.
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