And now I will be banned by the mods for 10 years for being an anti-Semite.

i mean he's a dumbass, but as long as he doesn't incite violence this is idiocy. 10 years? jesus... glad i live in the USA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5A0pg4oN8

The UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, not unlike the majority of the UN's so-called universal declarations, are so fluffy that you could pin them on your pillow and sleep like a baby, leon. Nobody fucking cares about them.

Not that I disagree with you. When I was in Germany, they told us quite seriously that jokes of the kind would probably keep us in the country past when our flights home left, either in jail or trying hard to stay out of it. Those laws aren't breaking news to anyone there.

Yeah, this is definitely one of Germany's more controversial laws. It's only recently legal to print Mein Kampf in Germany. They tried to compensate for the fact that they committed genocide and hope that these laws will prevent fascism from coming back, but I don't think the way they set it up would necessarily prevent that sort of thing, and just keeps people from proclaiming certain beliefs about history.

Also, yeah, bo is right. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights was just a framework. It's not at all legally binding.

It raises a thought in my mind.

You know how Germany is so hardcore about all that Nazi stuff and very zero toleranve.

Meanwhile the US tears down a few civil war statues and allows the kkk to exist and allows rebel flags to fly. And yet democrats get called nazis, who want to whitewash history and erase the culture of the south.

Imagine if we treated our dark history as a nation of slavery the way Germany treats its dark history of the Nazis.

I think I just proved that Social Justice Warrior mentality against slavery is properly applied.

Just because we're better than Germany does not mean we're right.

I saw some conservative dude try to compare democrats to ISIS because ISIS ripped down 3000 yr old statues.

And we ripped down a statue of a guy who owned slaves and murdered black people.

Yep... thats a great equivalency.

If there is no doubt (and there shouldn't be) that the holocaust occurred, what is the purpose of denying it? It's not like Germany has an ever growing list of unchallengeable truths. Given Germany's history and the very limited scope of the law, I'm ok with it for Germany.

It is a great equivalency. ISIS rips down statues of people who offend them. Democrats tear down statues of people who offend them.

Yea... safe to say were right. If I built a statue honoring Ebola youd think I was a fuckin tool

There you are, leon. I was wondering where you went.

Yea uh leon you should be offended by racist slave owners who murdered black people. You shouldnt want to honor them

Volksverhetzung: in English "incitement of the masses", "instigation of the people" (the official English translation of the German Criminal Code uses "incitement to hatred"[1][2]), is a concept in German criminal law that refers to incitement to hatred against segments of the population and refers to calls for violent or arbitrary measures against them, including assaults against the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously maligning, or defaming segments of the population.


Doesn't sound very limited to me.

Call it honoring history we can rip that shit down. We beat the south. We destroyed that bullshit way of life. Theres no legal reason why it deserves to be honored. If you wanna become a slave owner and bring back the confederacy good luck.

brainbomb, this is history. I don't get offended by statues of historical figures just like I wouldn't be offended by a statue of Stalin.

Then it should be narrowed to the scope I described.

Keeping a historical monument is not the equivalent of honoring every action that person has taken.

@Hauta, so should saying "slavery didn't happen" be a crime in the US as well?

I get offended by people who look on those statues and still harbor racist beliefs and wish the South had won. There are just so many people who do. They exist leon. Maybe not where you live but ive seen it ive lived in the south. Its real. These people will fight harder to preserve a statue of a guy who beat black people to death than they will actual people today actual non slave black people who are still being beaten and killed by cops. So fuck yea Id tear all those statues down until that way of life and all its residual effects are purged from the minds of my countrymen.

Why the fuck would we be honoring that shit? If were gonna preserve civil war statues honoring douchebags why in gods name did we erase so much native american history in our bloodlust for conquest.

@brainbomb

it's your right to get offended, it's not your right to censor

I was thinking about that. The existence of slavery is so central to American history and denial of it would have only one purpose: hatred. Therefore, just as one can't incite a crowd to immediate violence here in America, so we know free speech is not unlimited, I would support that one expansion to a prohibition of free speech in America.

Nobody is gonna forget that it happened by ripping down a statue of a guy who dedicated his life to foghting to protect slave owners.

But as long as the statue is ripped down no one will ever dare to think this was something to honor or revere.

It would be like us putting up a statue of Bemedict Arnold and revering it as a hero.

"So fuck yea Id tear all those statues down until that way of life and all its residual effects are purged from the minds of my countrymen."

Sounds suspiciously like brainwashing, brainbomb. It seems your name stands for blowing people's minds into pieces so they can't have independent thought. If some fringe minority wants slavery back, let them want that. It won't happen, and they are free to think as they please.

As for black people being beaten, I've repeatedly proven in the past that they're killed at the same rate as white people when adjusted for their crime rate.

Yes, it is a shame that Native American history and people were wiped out. Does that mean we have to do the same with American history?

Nice to see you are passionate about defending statues of racists tho.

I suppose if I make a statue of Adolf Hitler you will say "DONT RIP THAT DOWN HISTORY MIGHT ForGET!!!"

I think there is a statue of Benedict Arnold's leg in Saratoga, the battle he won against the British but where he lost his leg.

If some fringe minority wants slavery back they can fuck off and go live on the moon. They have zero place in society.