"No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."

#SupportOurTroops

the part where the government has to let you spew out your political opinion

My least favourite part is the bit where you wrote it down instead of having an uncodified constitution that evolves as society evolves.

lol without that sentence my respectable and hardworking grandfather could be kicked out of the country ;)
Respectfully, fuck off

With all due respect, your respectable and hardworking grandfather's parents should have gone through the proper immigration procedure.

Haha, there was no paperwork to go through for my great grandfather. He was likely a refugee from the Mexican Revolution at a time where immigration paperwork was only really looking up on Europeans.

Don't use this thread as a platform for insulting one another please.

My father's mother's family was in New Mexico when it was part of Spain. They didn't cross the border, the border crossed over them.

TrPrado, if your great grandparents were seen as refugees, then your family wouldn't have been kicked out regardless of the fourteenth amendment.

There was no such process to recognize anyone as a refugee. Refugee law wouldn't be a thing for quite some time.

F is for friends that do stuff together, U is for you and meeeeee

N is for oppressing negroes. #JustAmericanConstitutionThings

Ah, I see you're referring to Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3, my friend.

I am not a fan of the final part of Article Two, Section 2, Clause 1.

I am also not a fan of the Second Amendment.

so jam, you are against pardons then?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Is that the part you don't like Leon, and if so, why?

The Eighteenth Amendment.

Yes, jmo, and I dislike it because it gives incentive for illegal aliens to come here, give birth to anchor babies, and then know that the government can't do shit about it.

"Not really keen on kids and am fine here, but I hear they offer steak every night to people who cross the border illegally then have kids, so I'll do that!"

Look on the bright side - if we raise the minimum wage to $15/hour, our currency will inflate, meaning that the $2.10/week wage that undocumented people in our country earn will be worth even less!

How would you redefine it to ensure all people who should get equal protection do get it?

"Look on the bright side - if we raise the minimum wage to $15/hour, our currency will inflate, meaning that the $2.10/week wage that undocumented people in our country earn will be worth even less!"

pretty sure you're joking and not making any serious point here, but in the interest of intellectual exploration: employers would raise the wages they offer illegal immigrants if you raised the minimum wage. inflation would increase their products' prices so they would be able to offer a higher wage while still saving money on labor by using illegal immigrants. depending on the effect of inflation on the exchange rate, this would have an indeterminate effect on illegal immigration

Possibly, though it may take some time. In the short term at least, an increase in minimum wage would be a substantial incentive to become a citizen.

Though yes, I was joking.

I figured, but this topic is interesting =)

And yes, possibly it would be an incentive. Depends on the responsiveness of businesses to the wage law. I would expect them to be very responsive since it wouldn't be a very sudden change if it happened -- it would be all over the news and especially the larger corporations would have all kinds of flies on the wall of the conference rooms where this gets negotiated in Congress.

I would say that my company couldn't afford to pay higher wages, but my company can't afford to pay wages at all, so that would be a moot point.

Well then your company would just go under with a new wage law. (which is one of the main fears of minimum wage laws in the first place)

Hardly. My company could be free to run if I wanted it to be. But yes, some might. Those that can't afford to pay a livable wage would definitely find it a struggle, but certain incentives for businesses that could comply with a new wage law prior to it becoming a total, federal mandate or broadening the standards that businesses can use to apply for government subsidies or other forms of business aid and relief would assist with that. New small businesses are already exempt from a certain amount of taxes for a certain amount of time, which should (and currently does) help new businesses learn to operate in a new economic landscape. There are ways to make it happen that can lessen the burden on employers as much as possible. We're all simply in it to make some money doing something we're prideful about, nothing more, but employees need to be treated right.

I don't know if I'd call it the worst, but the application of the privileges and immunities clause of the 14th Amendment to the 2nd Amendment is certainly one of the more *interesting* bits of the Constitution.

@ Capt Brad: "so jam, you are against pardons then?"

Yes. I am against the President having some kind of infallible power to pardon criminals without any reference to the Supreme Court or any other regard for the rule of law. Look at all the dodgy people Bill Clinton pardoned on his last day in office. It stinks.

Also Leon, without that part you could have avoided naturalization of all those savage native americans, right?