You're a sick fuck.

Wasn't the shooter a Canadian?

Go read a newspaper Emac. Shooter is from Texas.

I just want to know why MapleLeaf is so gleeful over the incident -- sick fuck!

@MichiganMan, I advise muting him, he's just a disturbed troll who enjoys posting the sickest things he can think of to get a response from people.

Mass shooting in Canada...must be so common place it doesn't get coverage...

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/mass-shooting-canada-compare-and-cont

No. Not trolling. Pointing out that the Excited States hss a HUGE problem with their STUPID 2nd amendment.

Most of the american morons, like mm and kkkrellin, disagree. That's why I'm happy that, hopefully, some people they care for just got lead poisoning. Maybe the light bulb will turn on at the funeral.

Keep shooting each other.

PLEASE.

wait what's so funny about people getting shot and killed again

@President Eden, Nothing, mapleleaf is just being a jackass thinking he's jumping on the anti-gun train due to the sudden increase in shootings over the past two or three years.
On that note... exactly what the hell has been going on over the past half decade anyway? We didn't use to have things like this happening all that often. Now it seems like they're everywhere. I mean we've had guns forever, so that can't be the ONLY cause here. Any theories...?

Congrats, mapleleaf. You're my first mute.

Oooh.

Advice from jmo.

Wipe your nose, boy. You're out of your hall monitor depth.

@MM

If you MUST know.

If it will silence the rattle of the eggbeater that you call your mind.

It's funny because you american morons love your guns more than you love each other.

It's APPROPRIATE that you all get shot and killed.

It's called the DARWIN AWARDS. Stupid people dying stupidly.

And Canadians still haven't banned those assault weapons that caused their last several major shootings and they have more mass shootings per populace than the US. Seems Canada is more fucked up than we are.

2wl, I'll use crayons the next time so you can understand what's going on.

The 9-11 terrorists entered the United States from Canada. With friends like Canada who needs enemies?

At the risk of making a serious point, can we assume from this deadly attack from a lone nutcase on a relatively well defended naval yard that giving guns to teachers to protect schools will ultimately fail? This seems to me pretty strong evidence to support the idea that the element of surprise will always give the gunman enough opportunity to cause massive damage before armed responders can make an impact.

Actually in Israel many terrorist shooting incidents that took place in public places were stopped by armed civilians who were nearby.

That being said, I am working as a security manager here in Israel and I can say that if you are a dedicated and creative terrorist, there is practically no way in stopping you from causing massive damage. There are just too many optional targets and opportunities for destruction.

It amazes me that no terrorists have yet discovered the best unguarded mass of people to attack - the security lines before checks.

Seriously, go to a semi-popular sporting event and there'll be a thousand people crowded into a little semi-circle trying to weave in and out of random lines to get in quicker. It's an easy target. I am amazed it hasn't happened yet.

@ Bo

There are literally thousands of ways terrorists could cause extreme damage at virtually no risk. The Boy Scouts could do better (and, in WWII, were trained to). The Al Qaeda attack on Exeter in '08 managed to miss the weekend in which the streets were jam packed with people celebrating the promotion of the local football team, and instead targeted a mostly empty cafe toilet the weekend after.

Quite why Al Qaeda are so incompetent is one of the greatest mysteries of the modern age.

Maybe the answer to that is because they aren't as powerful as our respective governments want us to believe, Octavious.

@ Bo

No, I don't think it's that. You don't need much in the way of power to cause chaos. They may have less manpower than certain parties would like us to think (or they may not), but even with those few we know about they could have done so much more.

Damn it, I could cause more destruction than most of them simply by dropping boxes of nails off motorway bridges.

@bo_sox

Unfortunately you were not the first to think of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_shootings_at_CIA_Headquarters

@Oct ... No, you don't need much power to cause chaos, hence the Navy Yard and all of the other mass shootings we've had lately. But let's look for a moment at 9/11 (I don't think you live in the United States if I remember correctly, so maybe you didn't hear much on this). The feds issued a pretty scary statement. They said that we'd see huge increases in security throughout the nation on the 10th anniversary of 9/11 a few years back. They said the same thing this year; in fact, they even placed certain travel restrictions in order to ensure that nothing too crazy bad would happen. They pretty much scared the living shit out of people, especially those that happened to be traveling during a notoriously busy time in the post-summer business season.

And what happened? Nada. Nothing. They didn't stop any terrorist plots because there were none to stop. They didn't hamper anyone's plans. All they did was remind us all that we're basically under the control of a few hundred bearded guys with AK's living in shuttered compounds in Pakistan.

There are basically two ways to look at it and personally I can go for either one. The most widely believed sentiment at least around here is that the terrorists have so few usable resources (and manpower) that they are resorting to psychological terrorism. They are sending out all these plans with the intent of being sniffed out, hoping that their transmissions will get interrupted and letting the American government do all the work while they sit back and laugh their asses off watching CNN. If that's true, it's absolutely deplorable what our intelligence money goes into, don't you think? The other way to look at it, which I find more likely if the NSA and friends are so busy spying on Americans and lately upper-class Europeans (yes, it's been going on for a long time, but the intelligence budget is increasing year-by-year anyway), is that the United States knows that the terrorists are down right now, and they simply want to keep making excuses for Guantanamo and other government projects of the like. The motivations for this are largely unclear, but the reason for suspicion is definitely there.

Again, I'd readily subscribe to either.

@Al ... that's still different. I'm thinking of when there are 20,000 people gathered outside Fenway Park for game six of the World Series (hopefully Boston is spared another attack, but they don't have heightened security outside the stadium despite the bombings still so recent in our memories) waiting to punch their tickets into the game. I don't know if you've ever seen Gate C, but those rafters wouldn't withstand an attack. They'd kill a hundred people, hospitalize another thousand, destroy an iconic part of an iconic stadium, and scare me away from Boston forevermore. Fortunately that's all hypothetical.

And no, I wasn't the first to think of this. One of my friends in Israel mentioned this in 2005 when he came to Indy for a few months and we took him to the Indy 500. There are literally thousands of people in a half-acre of space every year there and it's a damn scary thought to comprehend.

As much as I would love to beleive that my enemies are a dozen bearded men with AK's, in my work I receive a weekly threat asessment of both the police and the army intelligence. The region I live in (Jerusalem) has roughly 100 terrorist threats every week. Among them about 10-20 are with details, such as precise time, potential weapons and number of participatns. Given the fact that I am in the middle-low position in the security management ladder in Israel (I secure only civilians and public transports) I never get a full review of anticipated attacks. But regular citizens don't know even that much. I recall that when my unit participated in operations during my army service we were finding weapons and disrupting terrorist activity on a daily paper, almost nothing was published in the news. Considering all that, regular citizens in the USA or anywhere else actually, are simply uninformed of what world they really live in

I'm talking Al Qaeda, HF. There are (I assume) tons of different groups you are focusing on.

And yes, people in the USA are very uninformed regarding terrorism. Frankly I didn't complain too much until the TSA started selling "frequent flyer" shit for $80 where you could essentially skip security.

"The 9-11 terrorists entered the United States from Canada. With friends like Canada who needs enemies?"

So are you blaming Canada for the shooting? Or for 9/11? Or both? Why not also blame the airline for letting them on the plane? Or our border agents for letting them in?

True, Bo Sox.

" They didn't stop any terrorist plots because there were none to stop. "

<sigh...rolls eyes...> Yes Bo, every time we break a terrorist plot or arrest someone, they send an email to YOU so that you are aware of what we have stopped.

Fact is, Bo, they are breaking plots all the time, but you DON'T TALK ABOUT IT because it will tip their hand to related organizations that they may be comprimised.

I know you think everything probably happens like a TV drama, but, sorry, I thought you would have gathered by now that our government operates under a massive shroud of secrecy....