WebMafia Olympics - Game #3 - Raygun's Revenge [GAME THREAD]

[Jamiet99uk]

I thought I pretty obv-towned, but I guess not. Sweet liked my game when I subbed, and I think I'm not much away from it, so I'm also perplexed he sees it so differently.

Can you clarify what this bit refers to, Kak?

You didn't sub into this game.

[Jamiet99uk]

Kak mentioned Heartthrob six times before he was replaced. Factoid.

No further observations, Bunny mentioned him once but only in answer to Kak.

I mentioned him a couple of times.

So Ghug is either team mates with Kak, or this is a cold line of enquiry.

well, I tried to get info from people, and I was active, and I tried to ask the person that knows heart (bunny) so that's that.

I think my post volume adds a lot to the number of mentioned players, like, I think I've mentioned anyone a few time, just due to the sheer amount of my postvolume. If you think it's good data, you could have a look at how often I mentioned every other player. I don't know exactly, but I'm sure I've talked about everyone at least a bit. So I might have the highest mentioning of heart, but as a percentage, that should be still quite low, I think.

Anyone who has a much higher percentage of mentioning heart? Maybe I should've look at that ... then again, that's only valuable info if ghug is mafia, so probably not a good investment of my time.

To answer the question at the end of this post - I don't think it matters all that much, but only me, you, and Bunny mentioned Heartthrob at all. You had the highest percentage; I mentioned Heart a couple of times, Bunny once.

[Jamiet99uk]

Frustrating work day. I'm here now and catching up

You should hammer sweet with me.

##END

Here. Ghug drops the hammer as soon as he notices someone else is online.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamiet, what was your motive for endvoting day 2. What were you thinking in the moment?

I addressed this in detail during D3.

Iso my D3 to find your answer.

[Jamiet99uk]

Frustrating work day. I'm here now and catching up

You should hammer sweet with me.

##END

Hmmm, do we have someone else online to join to make it 3 if I do?

Here, after Ghug hammers, Flum is keen to know if a hammer can be done quickly.

[Jamiet99uk]

I've looked at the scenarios, and I just don't see it. Gave my thoughts to the god qt for the aftergame.

How sure are you about this ghug? Am I just dumb?

Here's Kak pushing back against the idea of hammering Sweet.

[Jamiet99uk]

##End

You didn't vote for Sweet.

Flum endhammers (on Rdrivera) and Ghug points out he isn't hammering the target Ghug wants.

[Jamiet99uk]

I've looked at the scenarios, and I just don't see it. Gave my thoughts to the god qt for the aftergame.

How sure are you about this ghug? Am I just dumb?

Just hammer sweet with me and we can discuss it tomorrow.

Ghug wants to hammer Sweet without further explaining why.

Oh dear oh dear.

[Jamiet99uk]

Kak I'll vote Sweet with an end if you do

Flum joins Ghug in trying to entice Kak to vote Sweet without further supporting argument; just peer pressure.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm not feeling comfortable to endvoting ANYONE, because I think the chance we hit town is just to high. It could be a full town crew doing that too, without any mafia manipulation on the vote.

But I see the point why an endvote would be good if we hit mafia. I just ... who the eff is it here?

Kak is still reluctant... . .

[Jamiet99uk]

maybe I shouldn't talk about it like ghug said, but I just can't see a low-risk way to be better than my suggestion of the no-kill->forced shot way.

If we vote out only town then, we would do so anyway. But if get at least one mafia in the process, it will not create a situation where mafia can just utilize their shots in the late game perfectly.

Maybe I'm just too risk averse. But frick, chancing it here is just so risky

Miskilling a town while mafia don't get a shot is a net win for us right now.
But if we're miskilling a town, there's a likely possibility mafia will try to shoot and endhammer right after. In those cases it's a race for us to unvote, or a race to kill them next phase before other mafia shoots

Highly risky strategy from Flum here...

[Jamiet99uk]

I'll rethink in the morning. ##unend

I'll rethink in the morning. I want to be around and ready when I end vote

Fluminator unends, with his vote still on Rdr...

[Jamiet99uk]

I keep trying to think of clever ways to game this setup and it keeps coming up short.

We could time it for most players based on timezone to schedule to do something when they are incapable of shooting if they are scum though lol

I think worcej despises me right now for some things I asked in discord

but I just don't see ghug's surefire "that's how town must play" thing, other than the high risk. And it's driving me crazy because I'm pretty sure ghug is town and I don't think I'm especially dumb but failing to see it is extremely uncomfortable for me and maybe I'm just wrong about ghug and he is maf and trying to misvote sweet, or even trying to get credit for voting sweet.

So either I'm dumb or I'm not good enough to see the current situation clearly, and that's just not a good choice to make.

It just clicked for me. Yolo
##vote Sweet
##end

Will explain when necessary

3 minutes later.

Flum bangs a vote on Sweet, and ends.

(@Flum, have you now provided the proffered explanation?)

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm impressed ghug is trying to convince you all to do something so incredibly idiotic.

Hammering anyone right now makes zero sense.

Mafia surely has already sent in the shot.

Also pretty sad ghug would want me hammered before giving me a chance to contribute.

This sounds stupid, particularly because I was already voting ghug, and "tunneling", but I'm completely confident Town ghug does not behave this way.

Vote me if you think it's correct, but hammering me is so incredibly daft.

Poor Sweet defends himself valiantly.

[Jamiet99uk]

I was initially thinking it might be scum ghug trying to push a miskill on you, but if I assume he's town, I see what he's doing and it's much more elegant so I'm kind of just switching to that. I don't think ghug is 4d chess tricking me with this. And if he's town, you're in most of the remaining scumteams.

And in the scenario neither you or ghug is scum I think this is still safe.

Safe to not allow me time to meaningfully solve? Yes, sounds fun, thanks.

Q.E.D.

[Jamiet99uk]

what do you think of Jamie, right here and now, without any 'null' or other cope outs

This is Kak to Sweet, while Sweet is still alive, but on the block...

[Jamiet99uk]

Hello.

You agreeing with me always gets my hackles up.

I suspect that the game would be progressing differently if either of us were scum, so I'm treating you as a townie and trying to solve. I can understand why that would be disconcerting.

...you never treat me as townie trying to solve unless you're scum

Bunny now thinks Ghug might be scum...

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm also very interested in what bunny thinks of this situation, so please tell me!

I think you should vote to end on sweet RIGHT NOW

Bunny insists on endvoting Sweet...

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm also very interested in what bunny thinks of this situation, so please tell me!

I think you should vote to end on sweet RIGHT NOW

##vote sweetandcool
##end

....and Kak does.

[Jamiet99uk]

Kak I'll vote Sweet with an end if you do

ugh...Flum and ghug encouraging people to do things is worrying

Bunny thought this...