Spring 2020 1v1 Champions League

[RoganJosh]

it's a rematch!

[RoganJosh]

I hope everyone noticed this game. Just look at the map, and then look at who won.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=293395

Also nice that first tiebreaker is to play two more games. Much better than a one-game tiebreaker.

[svkrIs]

I hope everyone noticed this game. Just look at the map, and then look at who won.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=293395

Also nice that first tiebreaker is to play two more games. Much better than a one-game tiebreaker.

Well, I made a pretty critical mistake by convoy spa-tun 03s in that game, too bad to rescue...

By the way, when will the round 3 begin, captain? @captainmeme

[captainmeme]

Challonge is updated and PMs for the next round have been sent out!

[RoganJosh]

If it is another 3 or 4 way tie, advancements will be decided by coin flip

For future iteration of this (and other) tournaments, we should not use coin flips, but we should use one round of odd vs. even: TD decides that player A wins if odd and player B wins if even. After that, both players submit either the number 0 or the number 1 in a PM to the TD. The total sum of the submitted numbers decides the winner.

This is more in spirit with the game...

[captainmeme]

The tournament is over! SvkrIs successfully defeats reigning champion RoganJosh 2-0 to take the title, and wins 1000 webDip points in the process.

You can find the finals games here:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=312724
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=312725

And the final tournament results either on the webDip Tournaments Page, or on the Challonge page:
http://webdiplomacy.net/tournaments.php?tab=Finished
https://webdiplomacy.challonge.com/Spring2020CL

Congrats svkrIs! And thank you to everyone who participated - it was great to see so many high quality games and to see the tournament scene for FvA being brought back :D I'm planning to run the Fall Champion's League this year as well (probably in about a month), so keep an eye out for that if you're interested!

[RoganJosh]

Congratulations to svkrIs! He was the better player in the final.

[CptMike]

Congratulations to the all the players and the winner!
That was a great year with very smart games!

[MadMarx]

Congrats svkrIs, very well played, and of course thanks to meme making this possible and doing a great job running the tournament!

[svkrIs]

Thanks y'all, and thanks meme for organizing this fun tournament!

[RoganJosh]

I'm planning to run the Fall Champion's League this year as well (probably in about a month), so keep an eye out for that if you're interested!

I know that IvG is not as fun as FvA, but maybe do IvG in the fall and FvA in the spring? Or alternating years...

[captainmeme]

My concern with GvI has always been that it's quite Germany-sided, so a lot of the matchups might just be determined by who rolls Germany in the tiebreaker. But, I'm very inexperienced in GvI in general so I'm not sure how true that is.

[BunnyGo]

My concern with GvI has always been that it's quite Germany-sided, so a lot of the matchups might just be determined by who rolls Germany in the tiebreaker. But, I'm very inexperienced in GvI in general so I'm not sure how true that is.

Maybe a matchup is 2 simultaneous games? Each player takes G in one game?

[CptMike]

My concern with GvI has alw...

Ooopss... Hello... Somebody talked about GvI ?

... that it's quite Germany-sided,

Well... I have just been crushed by a "newbee in GvI" (but a player with a lot of talent) while I was playing Germany. Maybe I was too confident but he surprised me with a move that I didn't expect and it was too late. It was not really luck. He surprised me and fully deserves his victory.

It is clear that it is different from FvA. FvA is more mathematical in thinking about all possibilities and managing the control of the key territories in optimizing ressources. GvI has a big battlefield in the Balkans with numerous flip coins but the challenge is more a movement games in the other places. Italy can decide to push all its ressources towards England and Germany can hardly prevent this. Globally Germany remains favored BUT if Germany decides not taking risks, it should lose. An interesting point is that there is not real equivalent to the Austrian rush strategy for Germany in GvI.

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There is nevertheless a problem in GvI that I discussed here : GvI balance.

...so a lot of the matchups might just be determined by who rolls Germany in the tiebreaker. But, I'm very inexperienced in GvI in general so I'm not sure how true that is.

Some options were discussed regarding this. We can add G and I territories from both games to decide who wins in case of 1-1, or check who won the fastest globally.

[badivan1]

I think Germany can actually win as early as 2005. Germany just need to take England earlier than usual.

Also, there is an opening variation where Germany sends his first year army builds to the Balkans with virtually no risk. While I don't have a lot of games with that move order, I think Germany should be favoured.