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Re: WebMafia Olympics - Game #2 - Star Trek TNG: The Republic of Q [GAME THREAD]

#681 Post by damo666 » Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:50 pm

Why is 3-2 preferable to 5-2?

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#682 Post by President Eden » Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:51 pm

worcej wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:49 pm
President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:47 pm
what in tarnation
Start figuring out how we can maintain control of the day kill on day 2.

I’m too angry-blind to see a solution to our problem.
sir yes sir

humble suggestion - don’t be mad at caught scum damo for making open scum power plays

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#683 Post by worcej » Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:52 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:50 pm
Why is 3-2 preferable to 5-2?
Information.

You're intelligent enough to already know that answer dude.

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#684 Post by worcej » Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:52 pm

President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:51 pm
worcej wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:49 pm
President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:47 pm
what in tarnation
Start figuring out how we can maintain control of the day kill on day 2.

I’m too angry-blind to see a solution to our problem.
sir yes sir

humble suggestion - don’t be mad at caught scum damo for making open scum power plays
This is my last post of the night phase.

I need to step back - I am irrationally angry.

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#685 Post by damo666 » Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:55 pm

worcej wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:49 pm
President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:47 pm
what in tarnation
Start figuring out how we can maintain control of the day kill on day 2.

I'm too angry-blind to see a solution to our problem.
During the night we quasi-vote to determine top 3 scum suspects. Everyone is only allowed to vote the top 2 survivors. Anyone breaking this rule gets auto voted by everyone else. That should work.

So everyone nominate their best guess at a scumpair.

Mine is Chaqa and Mrs Bomb.

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#686 Post by GlitterBomb » Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:56 pm

worcej wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:52 pm
President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:51 pm
worcej wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:49 pm
Start figuring out how we can maintain control of the day kill on day 2.

I’m too angry-blind to see a solution to our problem.
sir yes sir

humble suggestion - don’t be mad at caught scum damo for making open scum power plays
This is my last post of the night phase.

I need to step back - I am irrationally angry.
I feel like you need a hug. That just happened so fast and against what I felt like was town’s agreed on or majority direction.

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#687 Post by President Eden » Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:57 pm

Yea so as I teased a moment ago, damo’s play only makes sense from scum perspective IMO.

Being confident in your townreads is good enough reason to stop the triple kill, because you’re not actually depriving town of a town-directed kill by slowing things down to 2 kills instead of 3. But it’s not good enough reason to derail the double kill because it takes away our ability to safely double kill next turn and possibly engineers our demise if the mafia figure out how to force a double kill next phase.

I firmly believe town damo would have worked that out and chosen one of two townreads between Will and Flav to save. It’s just too much of a selfish hero play for town damo IMO. And it perfectly aligns with scum incentives if you’re already not long for this world.

Real questions to me are:
(1) should we not simply double kill tomorrow anyway despite the risk? I am that confident damo is scum here.
(2) does scum damo do that if his partner is also one of Flav or Will?

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#688 Post by Chaqa » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:00 pm

I’m also pretty annoyed at Damo.

Not like furious but more disappointed

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#689 Post by damo666 » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:01 pm

GlitterBomb wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:56 pm
worcej wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:52 pm
President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:51 pm

sir yes sir

humble suggestion - don’t be mad at caught scum damo for making open scum power plays
This is my last post of the night phase.

I need to step back - I am irrationally angry.
I feel like you need a hug. That just happened so fast and against what I felt like was town’s agreed on or majority direction.
There are 2 live mafia as you well know.

Btw you didn't vote for any of the top 4 wagons. The only player not to do so.

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#690 Post by damo666 » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:01 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:00 pm
I’m also pretty annoyed at Damo.

Not like furious but more disappointed
What about TFB's vote on lfischl?

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#691 Post by Chaqa » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:03 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:01 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:00 pm
I’m also pretty annoyed at Damo.

Not like furious but more disappointed
What about TFB's vote on lfischl?
I need to analyze the end of day a bit more.

But now we are at risk of mafia winning outright if they engineer a double kill tomorrow, and we will have the smallest possible amount of information to work with.

You’ve actually made one of the worst possible end of days happen

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#692 Post by GlitterBomb » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:04 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:01 pm
GlitterBomb wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:56 pm
worcej wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:52 pm
This is my last post of the night phase.

I need to step back - I am irrationally angry.
I feel like you need a hug. That just happened so fast and against what I felt like was town’s agreed on or majority direction.
There are 2 live mafia as you well know.

Btw you didn't vote for any of the top 4 wagons. The only player not to do so.
Ummm what? Top four wagons? Does that mean top four players that were getting the most votes?

Last I checked, Flav was in that category.

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#693 Post by damo666 » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:05 pm

President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:57 pm
Yea so as I teased a moment ago, damo’s play only makes sense from scum perspective IMO.

Being confident in your townreads is good enough reason to stop the triple kill, because you’re not actually depriving town of a town-directed kill by slowing things down to 2 kills instead of 3. But it’s not good enough reason to derail the double kill because it takes away our ability to safely double kill next turn and possibly engineers our demise if the mafia figure out how to force a double kill next phase.

I firmly believe town damo would have worked that out and chosen one of two townreads between Will and Flav to save. It’s just too much of a selfish hero play for town damo IMO. And it perfectly aligns with scum incentives if you’re already not long for this world.

Real questions to me are:
(1) should we not simply double kill tomorrow anyway despite the risk? I am that confident damo is scum here.
(2) does scum damo do that if his partner is also one of Flav or Will?
Have you considered my proposal. We vote 2 and only 2 players tomorrow, anybody voting outside the chosen pair gets auto hammered.

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#694 Post by worcej » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:06 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:01 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:00 pm
I’m also pretty annoyed at Damo.

Not like furious but more disappointed
What about TFB's vote on lfischl?
Disconnected enough and put two messages of frustration into JT for the GT.

But in general, Boat made his votes with 2 minutes left and wanted to process 2 kills.

You intentionally waited until the last second and even admit to purposely taking the DK down to 1 kill because of TFB's vote allowing you that opportunity.

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#695 Post by President Eden » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:06 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:05 pm
President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:57 pm
Yea so as I teased a moment ago, damo’s play only makes sense from scum perspective IMO.

Being confident in your townreads is good enough reason to stop the triple kill, because you’re not actually depriving town of a town-directed kill by slowing things down to 2 kills instead of 3. But it’s not good enough reason to derail the double kill because it takes away our ability to safely double kill next turn and possibly engineers our demise if the mafia figure out how to force a double kill next phase.

I firmly believe town damo would have worked that out and chosen one of two townreads between Will and Flav to save. It’s just too much of a selfish hero play for town damo IMO. And it perfectly aligns with scum incentives if you’re already not long for this world.

Real questions to me are:
(1) should we not simply double kill tomorrow anyway despite the risk? I am that confident damo is scum here.
(2) does scum damo do that if his partner is also one of Flav or Will?
Have you considered my proposal. We vote 2 and only 2 players tomorrow, anybody voting outside the chosen pair gets auto hammered.
Are you volunteering to be one of them?

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#696 Post by damo666 » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:06 pm

If lfischl had flipped scum would you all still be saying the same thing. Would you?

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#697 Post by worcej » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:08 pm

President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:57 pm
Yea so as I teased a moment ago, damo’s play only makes sense from scum perspective IMO.

Being confident in your townreads is good enough reason to stop the triple kill, because you’re not actually depriving town of a town-directed kill by slowing things down to 2 kills instead of 3. But it’s not good enough reason to derail the double kill because it takes away our ability to safely double kill next turn and possibly engineers our demise if the mafia figure out how to force a double kill next phase.

I firmly believe town damo would have worked that out and chosen one of two townreads between Will and Flav to save. It’s just too much of a selfish hero play for town damo IMO. And it perfectly aligns with scum incentives if you’re already not long for this world.

Real questions to me are:
(1) should we not simply double kill tomorrow anyway despite the risk? I am that confident damo is scum here.
(2) does scum damo do that if his partner is also one of Flav or Will?
To 1, I think we're forced into the double kill regardless because scum have an easy out to accomplish it.

To 2 - yeah, I think scum damo would do this to save Flav or Will because losing his partner here would be disastrous.

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#698 Post by President Eden » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:08 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:06 pm
If lfischl had flipped scum would you all still be saying the same thing. Would you?
Well no, because you would presumably not railroad your teammate and deprive yourself of two miskills.

lfischl being town is kind of a huge detail to brush over there lol.

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#699 Post by worcej » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:09 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:06 pm
If lfischl had flipped scum would you all still be saying the same thing. Would you?
Yes I would be saying the same thing, but with significantly less anger at you and more disappointed at your selfishness like what Chaqa is.

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#700 Post by damo666 » Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:10 pm

President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:06 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 11:05 pm
President Eden wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:57 pm
Yea so as I teased a moment ago, damo’s play only makes sense from scum perspective IMO.

Being confident in your townreads is good enough reason to stop the triple kill, because you’re not actually depriving town of a town-directed kill by slowing things down to 2 kills instead of 3. But it’s not good enough reason to derail the double kill because it takes away our ability to safely double kill next turn and possibly engineers our demise if the mafia figure out how to force a double kill next phase.

I firmly believe town damo would have worked that out and chosen one of two townreads between Will and Flav to save. It’s just too much of a selfish hero play for town damo IMO. And it perfectly aligns with scum incentives if you’re already not long for this world.

Real questions to me are:
(1) should we not simply double kill tomorrow anyway despite the risk? I am that confident damo is scum here.
(2) does scum damo do that if his partner is also one of Flav or Will?
Have you considered my proposal. We vote 2 and only 2 players tomorrow, anybody voting outside the chosen pair gets auto hammered.
Are you volunteering to be one of them?
If XYZ and I are the the top 2 survivors of a nightime scumvote I will vote XYZ at SOD and not make any other posts unless ABC voted other then me or XYZ and then I will hammer vote ABC.

In other words yes.

If me and a scum die it will be 3-1 going into D3. I'm happy with that.

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