MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[ghug]

Town ghug totally escalates the Eden conflict way more than he did. He is probably scum because his response in the exchange was quite measured

This feels weird, but it's probably because I haven't really played with ghug before.

It's not a totally unreasonable pattern to notice in general, though I'm pretty sure Tom's just fucking with me here.

[bozotheclown]

@everyone who supports murder on day 1

So in normal games with one mafia team, the town has X amount of miskills they can make before they lose the game and that's pretty rigid. If the doctor or vig do well then sometimes you can gain an extra miskill but it's rare.
If town no-kills in a normal game, it almost always lowers the amount of miskills they can make before losing the game and that is always bad. The daykill is the only way for mafia to die so giving one of those up is always bad since we'll never get it back.

In Multi, we have no idea how many miskills we have. The last multi webdip game I think we barely killed any mafia most of the way through the game but we still won because the mafia teams shot each other to swiss.
I've been in several multi games on mafiascum and sometimes the town gets annhilated when it wasn't really their fault, and in others the mafias did all the work. I don't think I've ever seen a multi game where the game was lost on a lylo miskill. There isn't a huge loss if we don't kill on day 1, because that info will just be transferred to a later daykill, but we will have the added information of nightkill analsyis and give PRs more cover to do their thing as well.

I do not think you are accounting for M51.

[Squigs44]

Town ghug totally escalates the Eden conflict way more than he did. He is probably scum because his response in the exchange was quite measured

This feels weird, but it's probably because I haven't really played with ghug before.

The "ghug isn't being mean enough, he must be scum" argument is as old as time. It's basically a meme at this point

[lfischl]

Town ghug totally escalates the Eden conflict way more than he did. He is probably scum because his response in the exchange was quite measured

This feels weird, but it's probably because I haven't really played with ghug before.

The "ghug isn't being mean enough, he must be scum" argument is as old as time. It's basically a meme at this point

huh, ok. will use that in the future.

[bozotheclown]

I think it's entirely possible that scum-Sabi could have been confused about this.

That's the one option I discounted. Why do you think this?

No offense to them, but Sabi seems a little confused by some things, even though this is their 4th game. That's a general impression, but paired with the move over to Discord for the mafia chat, I think there's a chance that early on in the game, they might have been genuinely confused.

I really, really, fucking really do not want to open up the can of shitworms that is role PM analysis, but we don't actually know if the scum teams received a PM that lists their team mates. We only know that they were going to be provided additional information in a separate PM, which could have just been a discord link without listing who else is on the team.

To be clear, I am inclined to look favorably on Sabi's confusion. The slip points to town. I just don't think people should put too much faith in that alone.

It is funny that while discussing a potential town slip that you included one of your own.

[bozotheclown]

I really, really, fucking really do not want to open up the can of shitworms that is role PM analysis, but we don't actually know if the scum teams received a PM that lists their team mates. We only know that they were going to be provided additional information in a separate PM, which could have just been a discord link without listing who else is on the team.

@GM, is the list of mafia teammates in the separate PM?

Here is another town slip to analyze.

[Jamiet99uk]

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[Durga]

[Durga]

So sorry for you kgray!

[Fluminator]

I love you Snowy and you know I do, but dang I wanted deathllama

[lfischl]

One thing I should probably mention, I will not be here for most of the day tomorrow. I might be able to get here for EOD but I don't know. My vote will stay on bona unless someone or something gives me a good enough reason to change it.

[Fluminator]

I don't think I've played with Ifischl before, but I like him. Please don't be another Donny Dude.

[TheFlyingBoat]

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Let's go!

[BesharamSabi]

I love you Snowy and you know I do, but dang I wanted deathllama

I don't want that Llama. I want Kakarroto instead since he never broke my brain unlike some people. I'm pretty sure Jamiet should ask him if macca doesn't post imo.

Is macca ever going to post or not? Like even if he thought the game started today he should have posted by now, no?

He's our only lurker I think unless we are counting damo? I dunno.


Anyway hi snowy. I'm glad you have joined us. I am looking forward to you being patronizing towards me this game as per tradition.

[TheFlyingBoat]

I really, really, fucking really do not want to open up the can of shitworms that is role PM analysis, but we don't actually know if the scum teams received a PM that lists their team mates. We only know that they were going to be provided additional information in a separate PM, which could have just been a discord link without listing who else is on the team.

@GM, is the list of mafia teammates in the separate PM?

Here is another town slip to analyze.

Does that mean we clear Durga based on her disbelief and post hoc consternation at Jamie for doing something this silly?

[kgray]

wtf no




Hi snowy, welcome I guess

[lfischl]

I don't think I've played with Ifischl before, but I like him. Please don't be another Donny Dude.

who is Donny Dude?

[kgray]

I love you Snowy and you know I do, but dang I wanted deathllama

I don't want that Llama. I want Kakarroto instead since he never broke my brain unlike some people. I'm pretty sure Jamiet should ask him if macca doesn't post imo.

Is macca ever going to post or not? Like even if he thought the game started today he should have posted by now, no?

He's our only lurker I think unless we are counting damo? I dunno.


Anyway hi snowy. I'm glad you have joined us. I am looking forward to you being patronizing towards me this game as per tradition.

Macca is they/them btw

[Fluminator]

I was going to say Fox didn't townslip, but if that logic results in me townslipping, then Fox can be a townclear

[bozotheclown]

I wouldn't know because I don't read posts more than 3 sentences long

Liar. You read Eden's goodbye.

Oh yeah I read that one for the drama.

Anyway foxy doing role pm analysis irked me and then I reminded myself that irking me is probably a good thing but also teammates should always be listed in the role pm so idk why you'd even consider they aren't but I also just don't want to go into this because we have no way of knowing

If that is true, Foxcastle may have too much information.