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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5741 Post by Foxcastle » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:00 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:59 pm
Foxcastle, Col7by, care to join us on Will?

(Colby, I don't disagree with your suspicion of Aaro, but we also need to consolidate. Very willing to investigate him tomorrow).
I will look at him, but I think I had him down as town for some reason.

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5742 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:01 pm

TheMadMonarch wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:58 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:32 pm
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:19 pm


Nope! Not correct! :-D
Very good. You said last night you would write a case on me today. It seems you came to conclusions without sharing them. You also said Bona looked suspicious based on the wagons. Can you tell us what you learned about Bona and I and why you are voting for me?
Nope! Again something I did not say.

Why are you making up lies about me?
I assume he is referring to this, which you did say:
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:04 pm
I'm game to finish the job on food tomorrow. I thought 3 minutes to EOD was an insane time to start a wagon, but Squiggs is so towny that this does not make a difference.
I assume by "finish the job" you meant "vote for him" not "present a case" ?
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5743 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:02 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:00 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:59 pm
Foxcastle, Col7by, care to join us on Will?

(Colby, I don't disagree with your suspicion of Aaro, but we also need to consolidate. Very willing to investigate him tomorrow).
I will look at him, but I think I had him down as town for some reason.
I would be fascinated to know what that reason was.
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5744 Post by Col7by » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:05 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:59 pm
Foxcastle, Col7by, care to join us on Will?

(Colby, I don't disagree with your suspicion of Aaro, but we also need to consolidate. Very willing to investigate him tomorrow).
I don’t mind joining at some point, we got a lot of hours left so curious to see what catches first for now

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5745 Post by TheMadMonarch » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:05 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:01 pm
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:58 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:32 pm


Very good. You said last night you would write a case on me today. It seems you came to conclusions without sharing them. You also said Bona looked suspicious based on the wagons. Can you tell us what you learned about Bona and I and why you are voting for me?
Nope! Again something I did not say.

Why are you making up lies about me?
I assume he is referring to this, which you did say:
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:04 pm
I'm game to finish the job on food tomorrow. I thought 3 minutes to EOD was an insane time to start a wagon, but Squiggs is so towny that this does not make a difference.
I assume by "finish the job" you meant "vote for him" not "present a case" ?
Yeah. We tried and failed to kill him. Now we're going to finish the job.

I would never agree to do a bunch of work like a write up.

When it happens (once in a blue moon), its cause I catch a whiff of something (usually nothing and I'm being insane) and the ADHD Hyperfixation takes over.

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5746 Post by TheMadMonarch » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:07 pm

Oh well. It's past midnight now, and god knows I need the sleep. I will see you all tomorrow!


And remember kids: kill food, so we can have a lovely BBQ!

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5747 Post by Foxcastle » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:09 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:02 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:00 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:59 pm
Foxcastle, Col7by, care to join us on Will?

(Colby, I don't disagree with your suspicion of Aaro, but we also need to consolidate. Very willing to investigate him tomorrow).
I will look at him, but I think I had him down as town for some reason.
I would be fascinated to know what that reason was.
Oh, it was that he started a mini-wagon on Balki 2 hours out on D2. Sweet joined him, and then he immediately left, and Sweet left shortly thereafter. So I guess I had him marked down as "early Balki voter."

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5748 Post by foodcoats » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:11 pm

TheMadMonarch wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:58 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:32 pm
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:19 pm


Nope! Not correct! :-D
Very good. You said last night you would write a case on me today. It seems you came to conclusions without sharing them. You also said Bona looked suspicious based on the wagons. Can you tell us what you learned about Bona and I and why you are voting for me?
Nope! Again something I did not say.

Why are you making up lies about me?
Sorry, I read the below as “I’m going to finish the job on food tomorrow,” as in, I will read food and prepare a case (“the job”) tomorrow. Since you do not need to read anymore, is your case that since I did not die, I must be scum? I am not trying to make up lies about you - I am asking you to be clear about why you are voting for me.
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:04 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:06 pm
Husband: Honey, I have some bad news.

Wife: Whats that?

Husband: Dammon died, and.. now I cant transform the owlbear cub into a ferocious armored ally at the end of the game.

Wife: Okay, do you want steak or chicken for dinner.

Husband: Whatever Flavius you wanna Aetius is fine with me.

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FlaviusAetius has died, he was Dammon of the Harpers, a Vanilla Town
That EOD was insane to read.

I think Flav was insane, insane enough to be killed even. But I do think this flip casts suspicion on Bona and food, who I felt reading this through now, were doing the most to make it happen, suggesting he really must be mafia and such. Bona more than food obvs, this is just the vibe I was getting as I went through.

I'm game to finish the job on food tomorrow. I thought 3 minutes to EOD was an insane time to start a wagon, but Squiggs is so towny that this does not make a difference.

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5749 Post by foodcoats » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:12 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:11 pm
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:58 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:32 pm


Very good. You said last night you would write a case on me today. It seems you came to conclusions without sharing them. You also said Bona looked suspicious based on the wagons. Can you tell us what you learned about Bona and I and why you are voting for me?
Nope! Again something I did not say.

Why are you making up lies about me?
Sorry, I read the below as “I’m going to finish the job on food tomorrow,” as in, I will read food and prepare a case (“the job”) tomorrow. Since you do not need to read anymore, is your case that since I did not die, I must be scum? I am not trying to make up lies about you - I am asking you to be clear about why you are voting for me.
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:04 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:06 pm
Husband: Honey, I have some bad news.

Wife: Whats that?

Husband: Dammon died, and.. now I cant transform the owlbear cub into a ferocious armored ally at the end of the game.

Wife: Okay, do you want steak or chicken for dinner.

Husband: Whatever Flavius you wanna Aetius is fine with me.

Image

FlaviusAetius has died, he was Dammon of the Harpers, a Vanilla Town
That EOD was insane to read.

I think Flav was insane, insane enough to be killed even. But I do think this flip casts suspicion on Bona and food, who I felt reading this through now, were doing the most to make it happen, suggesting he really must be mafia and such. Bona more than food obvs, this is just the vibe I was getting as I went through.

I'm game to finish the job on food tomorrow. I thought 3 minutes to EOD was an insane time to start a wagon, but Squiggs is so towny that this does not make a difference.
In fact, on an additional re-read, you seem to think bona is scummier than me.

Can you clarify your thoughts?

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5750 Post by foodcoats » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:15 pm

TheMadMonarch wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:05 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:01 pm
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:58 pm


Nope! Again something I did not say.

Why are you making up lies about me?
I assume he is referring to this, which you did say:
TheMadMonarch wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:04 pm
I'm game to finish the job on food tomorrow. I thought 3 minutes to EOD was an insane time to start a wagon, but Squiggs is so towny that this does not make a difference.
I assume by "finish the job" you meant "vote for him" not "present a case" ?
Yeah. We tried and failed to kill him. Now we're going to finish the job.

I would never agree to do a bunch of work like a write up.

When it happens (once in a blue moon), its cause I catch a whiff of something (usually nothing and I'm being insane) and the ADHD Hyperfixation takes over.
But you voted for ghug yesterday. I am confused. You did not try to kill me yesterday.

Is there someone you strongly townread who has convinced you I am scum? Please share your logic for the benefit of town.

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5751 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:19 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:09 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:02 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:00 pm


I will look at him, but I think I had him down as town for some reason.
I would be fascinated to know what that reason was.
Oh, it was that he started a mini-wagon on Balki 2 hours out on D2. Sweet joined him, and then he immediately left, and Sweet left shortly thereafter. So I guess I had him marked down as "early Balki voter."
"Early Balki voter who jumped off Balki when shit got real" doesn't really scream town, to me, Fox.
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5752 Post by Foxcastle » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:20 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:19 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:09 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:02 pm


I would be fascinated to know what that reason was.
Oh, it was that he started a mini-wagon on Balki 2 hours out on D2. Sweet joined him, and then he immediately left, and Sweet left shortly thereafter. So I guess I had him marked down as "early Balki voter."
"Early Balki voter who jumped off Balki when shit got real" doesn't really scream town, to me, Fox.
As you might be able to tell, I hadn't given him all that much thought at all.

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5753 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:23 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:20 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:19 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:09 pm

Oh, it was that he started a mini-wagon on Balki 2 hours out on D2. Sweet joined him, and then he immediately left, and Sweet left shortly thereafter. So I guess I had him marked down as "early Balki voter."
"Early Balki voter who jumped off Balki when shit got real" doesn't really scream town, to me, Fox.
As you might be able to tell, I hadn't given him all that much thought at all.
I suggest you give him your vote. By which I mean, vote for him.
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5754 Post by Col7by » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:33 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:23 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:20 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:19 pm


"Early Balki voter who jumped off Balki when shit got real" doesn't really scream town, to me, Fox.
As you might be able to tell, I hadn't given him all that much thought at all.
I suggest you give him your vote. By which I mean, vote for him.
Could be a vote on a fellow scum that was low impact but would look good not knowing balki would get elimmed while gone?

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5755 Post by foodcoats » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:46 pm

Manual reconstruction of the vote count immediately before the duel. Apologies if I’ve made any errors…

DiplomacyandWarfare (5) DemonRHK*, worcej, Foxcastle, Jamiet99uk, Yoyoyozo
Jamiet99uk (2) Fluminator, Ezio
ghug (3) FlaviusAetius, Dousing, JustAGuyNamedWill
lfischl (3) Col7by, Vecna, aarodactyl
damo666 (1) TheMadMonarch
FlaviusAetius (1) bonatogether
Dousing (2) Balki Bartokomous, ghug
Ezio (1) foodcoats
sweetandcool (1) BunnyGo
Diplomacy&Warfare (1) lfischl
Balki (3) Squigs44, DiplomacyandWarfare, sweetandcool

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5756 Post by foodcoats » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:54 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:46 pm
Manual reconstruction of the vote count immediately before the duel. Apologies if I’ve made any errors…

DiplomacyandWarfare (5) DemonRHK*, worcej, Foxcastle, Jamiet99uk, Yoyoyozo
Jamiet99uk (2) Fluminator, Ezio
ghug (3) FlaviusAetius, Dousing, JustAGuyNamedWill
lfischl (3) Col7by, Vecna, aarodactyl
damo666 (1) TheMadMonarch
FlaviusAetius (1) bonatogether
Dousing (2) Balki Bartokomous, ghug
Ezio (1) foodcoats
sweetandcool (1) BunnyGo
Diplomacy&Warfare (1) lfischl
Balki (3) Squigs44, DiplomacyandWarfare, sweetandcool
I made a big dumb error here with two Dip and War lines. There were 6 on Dip and War including lfischl/PE.

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5757 Post by President Eden » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:04 pm

Now that y’all are done yapping about other things and are doing duel VCA, you should just check my ISO because I did the work for you already.

Of interest:
https://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=409490#p409490
https://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=409706#p409706
https://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=409732#p409732
https://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=409757#p409757

Most of my analysis discounted the possibility of the mafia having the Battle Master power. I admittedly overlooked it, and if that’s a dealbreaker for you, that’s okay. But if you care about duel VCA at all, you presumably think the Battle Master is more likely town than mafia (because if the mafia knew in advance that both players were dying today anyway, they wouldn’t have the same incentives to care about the duel). So it should be helpful.

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5758 Post by Vecna » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:11 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:09 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:02 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:00 pm


I will look at him, but I think I had him down as town for some reason.
I would be fascinated to know what that reason was.
Oh, it was that he started a mini-wagon on Balki 2 hours out on D2. Sweet joined him, and then he immediately left, and Sweet left shortly thereafter. So I guess I had him marked down as "early Balki voter."
funny. i have him down as scum that knew the bm was activated for this.

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5759 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:13 pm

Col7by wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:33 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:23 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:20 pm

As you might be able to tell, I hadn't given him all that much thought at all.
I suggest you give him [JustWill] your vote. By which I mean, vote for him.
Could be a vote on a fellow scum that was low impact but would look good not knowing balki would get elimmed while gone?
Yes it could, it could indeed.
Potato, potato; potato.

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Re: M89: Baldurs Gate Mafia Game Thread

#5760 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:13 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:46 pm
Manual reconstruction of the vote count immediately before the duel. Apologies if I’ve made any errors…

DiplomacyandWarfare (5) DemonRHK*, worcej, Foxcastle, Jamiet99uk, Yoyoyozo
Jamiet99uk (2) Fluminator, Ezio
ghug (3) FlaviusAetius, Dousing, JustAGuyNamedWill
lfischl (3) Col7by, Vecna, aarodactyl
damo666 (1) TheMadMonarch
FlaviusAetius (1) bonatogether
Dousing (2) Balki Bartokomous, ghug
Ezio (1) foodcoats
sweetandcool (1) BunnyGo
Diplomacy&Warfare (1) lfischl
Balki (3) Squigs44, DiplomacyandWarfare, sweetandcool
I did that already, why are you doing it again?
Potato, potato; potato.

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