MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5361 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:03 pm

##vote HB

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5362 Post by President Eden » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:03 pm

gg Jamie, well done

you heard the man

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5363 Post by Rumi Tobari » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:04 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
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If I die kill Vecna.
Trusting Jamie here. Other than his outburst at EOD2, he's the only person I was 100% willing to townread.
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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5364 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:05 pm

Got no reason not to trust Jamie here.

##Vote Vecna

Have they even been around?

I’m not inclined to end. Seems gratuitous at this point.

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5365 Post by Rumi Tobari » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:16 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:05 pm
Got no reason not to trust Jamie here.

##Vote Vecna

Have they even been around?

I’m not inclined to end. Seems gratuitous at this point.
Brian, share your thoughts on me and I'll share my thoughts on you.

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5366 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:22 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:16 pm
Brian, share your thoughts on me and I'll share my thoughts on you.
I think I screwed up the quote thing on my phone.

Honestly Rumi, I don’t have a solid read on you. From what D1 has shown me, you’re involved. I haven’t done a deep dive into your votes, rationalizations, etc. I’ll get there.

Must be an interesting exercise for you looking at one spot occupied by 2 different people.

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5367 Post by ghug » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:25 pm

##VOTE Rivera

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#5368 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:26 pm

##vote HB

I think Neon ending with the Flowers N1 means he was involved in the Bus Driver swap. There is a chance Driver swapped Neon and Sabi, but I think Neon being the driver is the most likely explanation.

I also don't mind a Vecna kill.

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5369 Post by Rumi Tobari » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:27 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:22 pm
Rumi Tobari wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:16 pm
Brian, share your thoughts on me and I'll share my thoughts on you.
I think I screwed up the quote thing on my phone.

Honestly Rumi, I don’t have a solid read on you. From what D1 has shown me, you’re involved. I haven’t done a deep dive into your votes, rationalizations, etc. I’ll get there.

Must be an interesting exercise for you looking at one spot occupied by 2 different people.
Okay first off. I'm leaning scum on Brian. I've been mostly unwilling to commit to strong positions that I'm not sure of, so I'm only leaning, not convinced like some of the others.

I'm not sure if Neon's constant defensiveness was AI or just her, that's one thing.

Sabi flipped town. And while I said if Sabi flipped scum, Neon/HB was 100% town, I had made it clear that If Sabi flipped town, then Neon might be scum, something Neon got somewhat defensive about, which taken into account with her previous behavior about most things, struck me as odd, but not particuarly AI.

Another reason I'm leaning scum on you is kind of silly and meta. I was in agreement with Eden at EOD1 scumreading Byz's behavior, but when Snowy swapped in, I was kind of townreading Snowy (a thing I found problematic compared to the kinda scumread I had on Byz) right up until he implied I was trying to pocket him. (when in reality, I think the reverse was true)

Related: from the time I spend watching the thread and refreshing every 10 to 20 minutes (when I'm not asleep), I'm kind of actually townreading you Brian, but since I was wrong about Snowy, I'm inclined to think I might be wrong about you.

Its kind of a shitty reason, but I'm acknowledging that my reads aren't that great, and taking that into account in my decision to to kinda-scumread Brian.

It does mean that there might be room to convince me otherwise though.

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5370 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:29 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:25 pm
##VOTE Rivera
The worst part of Jamiet dying is that Ghug is now 100% clear.

Anyway, I am not dying today, so go look elsewhere.

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5371 Post by Rumi Tobari » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:29 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:26 pm
##vote HB

I think Neon ending with the Flowers N1 means he was involved in the Bus Driver swap. There is a chance Driver swapped Neon and Sabi, but I think Neon being the driver is the most likely explanation.

I also don't mind a Vecna kill.
Can I have more explanation here, I thought Jamie shot down the Neon as bus driver idea because bus driver can't bus themselves, which we got confirmation from DRHK about.

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5372 Post by ghug » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:29 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:26 pm
##vote HB

I think Neon ending with the Flowers N1 means he was involved in the Bus Driver swap. There is a chance Driver swapped Neon and Sabi, but I think Neon being the driver is the most likely explanation.

I also don't mind a Vecna kill.
This is literally impossible lol

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5373 Post by Chaqa » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:30 pm

I think not peeking is considered scumful.

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5374 Post by President Eden » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:31 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:26 pm
##vote HB

I think Neon ending with the Flowers N1 means he was involved in the Bus Driver swap. There is a chance Driver swapped Neon and Sabi, but I think Neon being the driver is the most likely explanation.

I also don’t mind a Vecna kill.
the chance is 100% :grin:
Jamie confirmed they were swapped

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5375 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:33 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:29 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:26 pm
##vote HB

I think Neon ending with the Flowers N1 means he was involved in the Bus Driver swap. There is a chance Driver swapped Neon and Sabi, but I think Neon being the driver is the most likely explanation.

I also don't mind a Vecna kill.
Can I have more explanation here, I thought Jamie shot down the Neon as bus driver idea because bus driver can't bus themselves, which we got confirmation from DRHK about.
You are right, Jamiet confirmed Neon swapped with Sabo, so I am just stupid.

Meh.

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5376 Post by Rumi Tobari » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:34 pm

President Eden wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:31 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:26 pm
##vote HB

I think Neon ending with the Flowers N1 means he was involved in the Bus Driver swap. There is a chance Driver swapped Neon and Sabi, but I think Neon being the driver is the most likely explanation.

I also don’t mind a Vecna kill.
the chance is 100% :grin:
Jamie confirmed they were swapped
No it's not. They were swapped. But bus driver cannot swap themselves. The bus driver does a weird three person tag shuffle between themselves.

Therefore, Neon/HB could be scum, but Neon/HB can't be the bus driver.

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5377 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:35 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:29 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:26 pm
##vote HB

I think Neon ending with the Flowers N1 means he was involved in the Bus Driver swap. There is a chance Driver swapped Neon and Sabi, but I think Neon being the driver is the most likely explanation.

I also don't mind a Vecna kill.
This is literally impossible lol
Yes, ths wasn't my best moment...

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5378 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:36 pm

Anyway, going to play padel, so will be out for the next hours....

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5379 Post by President Eden » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:37 pm

Rumi Tobari wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:34 pm
President Eden wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:31 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:26 pm
##vote HB

I think Neon ending with the Flowers N1 means he was involved in the Bus Driver swap. There is a chance Driver swapped Neon and Sabi, but I think Neon being the driver is the most likely explanation.

I also don’t mind a Vecna kill.
the chance is 100% :grin:
Jamie confirmed they were swapped
No it’s not. They were swapped. But bus driver cannot swap themselves. The bus driver does a weird three person tag shuffle between themselves.

Therefore, Neon/HB could be scum, but Neon/HB can’t be the bus driver.
“the chance” I was referring to is “a chance Driver swapped Neon and Sabi” which was confirmed to have happened

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Re: MAFIA 75: TROUBLE AT THE PRECINCT [HIDDEN]

#5380 Post by Rumi Tobari » Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:40 pm

President Eden wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:37 pm
Rumi Tobari wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:34 pm
No it’s not. They were swapped. But bus driver cannot swap themselves. The bus driver does a weird three person tag shuffle between themselves.

Therefore, Neon/HB could be scum, but Neon/HB can’t be the bus driver.
“the chance” I was referring to is “a chance Driver swapped Neon and Sabi” which was confirmed to have happened
I apologize. I realized that afterwards.

Also:
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:26 pm
##vote HB

I think Neon ending with the Flowers N1 means he was involved in the Bus Driver swap. There is a chance Driver swapped Neon and Sabi, but I think Neon being the driver is the most likely explanation.

I also don't mind a Vecna kill.
Until just now I hadn't realized that's what the thing with the florist visiting Neon. Sabi had claimed death bomb. Florist was trying to take the DB from him, but was too late because bus driver did already.

The question becomes what order the Neon/Sabi swap occurred. And this is important because if driver swapped Neon with Sabi, then the driver has the DB, but if driver swapped Sabi with Neon, then Neon got the DB after N1.

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