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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5121 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 5:17 pm

Is it the volume of posts that makes people miss things?

@Jamie: if you haven’t claimed in 15 minutes I’m organizing a wagon on you

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5122 Post by damo666 » Tue May 05, 2020 5:17 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:10 pm
flash2015 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 4:56 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 4:50 pm
its a win win win across the board if all three of us are town.

and of course, summit gets more scans. the only way they can stop him is jailing him indefinetely which I suppose would keep us 3 in the dark about each other.
Are we sure Demon will be modkilled if we don't lynch him? If not, emc could instead verify Demon and Demon could save one of us.
How emc would verify Demon? He can check who Demon visited, but if he is really doc or what is his alignment I don't see how can be verified unless you are counting with Mafia also participating and choosing Demon target for the NK.
We get Demon to visit player X and emc tracks Demon. If Demon's action is not a save X would get a contradictory message I assume (you have been XYZ'd where XYZ <> save). Does that work? X could be Vecna who if he is telling the truth is VT.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5123 Post by BunnyGo » Tue May 05, 2020 5:17 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
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##Vote Nephthyhs.
Why why why why why?!

Tell me a story.

Show me your thoughts.

Open your brain to me.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5124 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue May 05, 2020 5:17 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 4:43 pm
Rivera what are your current scumreads and opinions on the game.


neph, are you a vengeful? is that why you keep acting so scummy that it makes me wanna punch myself in the face?

sarahk, are you planning on playing? youve done even less this game than last game
My scumreads are now Demon, DargoBunny and Damo. Fox/Squigs is also possible but it's more of a null with Sarah.
Xorxes and Vecna are good candidates for a 3P or scum too. Vecna role look more and more like what a killing scum or 3rd party could claim. Does someone confirmed Kgray visited Vecna and not the opposite?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5125 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 5:18 pm

FWIW, after thinking about it, I do believe RHK’s story and it makes sense he would protect me last night. But atm I do not see a better lynch.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5126 Post by damo666 » Tue May 05, 2020 5:19 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:16 pm
damo666 wrote:
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Brain's changing story regarding whether he is a straight up doc or when with the ability to consecutively save the same person is still bugging me

##vote brain
He’s been pretty clear that he can consecutive save.
Then why did he describe it as straight up doc? Brain is probably more aware of standard roles than anyone esle.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5127 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue May 05, 2020 5:21 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:17 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:10 pm
flash2015 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 4:56 pm


Are we sure Demon will be modkilled if we don't lynch him? If not, emc could instead verify Demon and Demon could save one of us.
How emc would verify Demon? He can check who Demon visited, but if he is really doc or what is his alignment I don't see how can be verified unless you are counting with Mafia also participating and choosing Demon target for the NK.
We get Demon to visit player X and emc tracks Demon. If Demon's action is not a save X would get a contradictory message I assume (you have been XYZ'd where XYZ <> save). Does that work? X could be Vecna who if he is telling the truth is VT.
I don't think you get a message if Doctor only visits you and doesn't save you, but one the hundred targets of our doctors can confirm this.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5128 Post by damo666 » Tue May 05, 2020 5:25 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:21 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:17 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:10 pm


How emc would verify Demon? He can check who Demon visited, but if he is really doc or what is his alignment I don't see how can be verified unless you are counting with Mafia also participating and choosing Demon target for the NK.
We get Demon to visit player X and emc tracks Demon. If Demon's action is not a save X would get a contradictory message I assume (you have been XYZ'd where XYZ <> save). Does that work? X could be Vecna who if he is telling the truth is VT.
I don't think you get a message if Doctor only visits you and doesn't save you, but one the hundred targets of our doctors can confirm this.
My point is if Demon is NOT a doctor X will (probably) get a message about something other than saving thus proving Demon is not a doc. If X gets no message it would conclusively prove Demon is doc but would add weight. In fact if we keep instructing who Demon visits each night it acts as a doc save on someone of our choice if he is a doc and ensures that person cannot be NKd if Demon is scum.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5129 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue May 05, 2020 5:25 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:17 pm
Is it the volume of posts that makes people miss things?

@Jamie: if you haven’t claimed in 15 minutes I’m organizing a wagon on you
Fine. You're a very bossy sex cult leader and I don't appreciate that, but fine, have it your way, Mister Bossypants.

I claim Town Protective.

I also have another ability which can be triggered in specific circumstances which I do not wish to reveal.

Happy?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5130 Post by flash2015 » Tue May 05, 2020 5:26 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:10 pm
flash2015 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 4:56 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 4:50 pm
its a win win win across the board if all three of us are town.

and of course, summit gets more scans. the only way they can stop him is jailing him indefinetely which I suppose would keep us 3 in the dark about each other.
Are we sure Demon will be modkilled if we don't lynch him? If not, emc could instead verify Demon and Demon could save one of us.
How emc would verify Demon? He can check who Demon visited, but if he is really doc or what is his alignment I don't see how can be verified unless you are counting with Mafia also participating and choosing Demon target for the NK.
If Demon visits someone and that someone doesn't die, then Demon probably is not scum. If Demon visits someone and they still die, then he is probably scum. To protect against multiple of us in the list being scum (Demon, emc, BB, summit), then we potentially have Chaqa (or someone else from the neighbour QT) drive who emc tracks.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5131 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue May 05, 2020 5:26 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:17 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:15 pm
##Vote Nephthyhs.
Why why why why why?!

Tell me a story.

Show me your thoughts.

Open your brain to me.
He's been really, really weird, check out his ISO and multiple people calling him out for it.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5132 Post by flash2015 » Tue May 05, 2020 5:28 pm

What do we do about the Sarah situation?

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#5133 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue May 05, 2020 5:34 pm

flash2015 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:28 pm
What do we do about the Sarah situation?
Sadly it will resolve itself if she doesn't. Unless you like Damo's endvote plan to protect her?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5134 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 5:36 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:19 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:16 pm
damo666 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:11 pm
Brain's changing story regarding whether he is a straight up doc or when with the ability to consecutively save the same person is still bugging me

##vote brain
He’s been pretty clear that he can consecutive save.
Then why did he describe it as straight up doc? Brain is probably more aware of standard roles than anyone esle.
I think doctor that can save consecutively isn't that unusual tbh

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5135 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue May 05, 2020 5:36 pm

flash2015 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:28 pm
What do we do about the Sarah situation?
I think we don't do anything. She either show up or get modkilled/replaced. If she is scum great, if she is town not a big loss at this point.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5136 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 5:37 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:25 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:17 pm
Is it the volume of posts that makes people miss things?

@Jamie: if you haven’t claimed in 15 minutes I’m organizing a wagon on you
Fine. You're a very bossy sex cult leader and I don't appreciate that, but fine, have it your way, Mister Bossypants.

I claim Town Protective.

I also have another ability which can be triggered in specific circumstances which I do not wish to reveal.

Happy?
No new information has been provided.

Is your role distinct enough from Brain to not make us want to get into a CC thing here?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5137 Post by rdrivera2005 » Tue May 05, 2020 5:38 pm

flash2015 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:26 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:10 pm
flash2015 wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 4:56 pm


Are we sure Demon will be modkilled if we don't lynch him? If not, emc could instead verify Demon and Demon could save one of us.
How emc would verify Demon? He can check who Demon visited, but if he is really doc or what is his alignment I don't see how can be verified unless you are counting with Mafia also participating and choosing Demon target for the NK.
If Demon visits someone and that someone doesn't die, then Demon probably is not scum. If Demon visits someone and they still die, then he is probably scum. To protect against multiple of us in the list being scum (Demon, emc, BB, summit), then we potentially have Chaqa (or someone else from the neighbour QT) drive who emc tracks.
So we have our best PRs involved in checking a 3p claim and giving hint to scum on how to neutralize them. Are you so confident Squigs/Fox is scum?

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5138 Post by Chaqa » Tue May 05, 2020 5:39 pm

Let's just lynch Demon so our PRs are free to get more information tonight. Makes scum have a harder time deciding things, and we will at least be removing someone who isn't town.

On the Sarah front - I say we do NOT end vote. No reason to keep her alive.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5139 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue May 05, 2020 5:43 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:37 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:25 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:17 pm
Is it the volume of posts that makes people miss things?

@Jamie: if you haven’t claimed in 15 minutes I’m organizing a wagon on you
Fine. You're a very bossy sex cult leader and I don't appreciate that, but fine, have it your way, Mister Bossypants.

I claim Town Protective.

I also have another ability which can be triggered in specific circumstances which I do not wish to reveal.

Happy?
No new information has been provided.

Is your role distinct enough from Brain to not make us want to get into a CC thing here?
I do not have the same role that Brain is claiming, that's for sure. However, if his claim is true, then town does have two docsaves, since my protective ability is effectively a docsave. One detail is that, apparently, I do get told if my target is home, but I don't get told whether or not I saved them from a kill.

That is, on N1 I got told that Foodcoats was not at home. On N2 I was told that I *successfully* found Brainbomb - but I get no feedback on whether or not he required my save.

When I say I have "another ability", it is something with an effect that is not protective in nature.

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Re: M55: The Last Party - Game Thread

#5140 Post by flash2015 » Tue May 05, 2020 5:52 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:39 pm
Let's just lynch Demon so our PRs are free to get more information tonight. Makes scum have a harder time deciding things, and we will at least be removing someone who isn't town.

On the Sarah front - I say we do NOT end vote. No reason to keep her alive.
Why do we get more info tonight if we lynch Demon?

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