M1026: ghughog Day [Game Thread]

[damo666]

Do you think that is what Damo is doing?

Doc should not claim. Only the saved target. (Could be one and the same but no need to reveal that).

If the saved target is not being voted for, what is the benefit to Town of them claiming?

We would have a town clear [scum can't counter in any way as they cannot afford a gladiator] and scum know their identity anyway. Absolutely zero downside.

I don't see currently having no votes as relevant. A reveal would prevent any future misvotes.

I don't mind declaring I was not saved. Gives scum no info.

P.S. I can neither confirm nor deny I know the identity of the saved one.

[Jamiet99uk]

If the saved target is not being voted for, what is the benefit to Town of them claiming?

We would have a town clear [scum can't counter in any way as they cannot afford a gladiator] and scum know their identity anyway. Absolutely zero downside.

The downside I can foresee is that it reveals to the Mafia whether or not the person they tried to kill is the Doctor, or just a VT.

[Jamiet99uk]

If the saved target is not being voted for, what is the benefit to Town of them claiming?

We would have a town clear [scum can't counter in any way as they cannot afford a gladiator] and scum know their identity anyway. Absolutely zero downside.

The downside I can foresee is that it reveals to the Mafia whether or not the person they tried to kill is the Doctor, or just a VT.

Oh no, wait, that's wrong, forgive my error.

[brainbomb]

##vote worcej

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote worcej

Would you like to update us on your thinking?

[brainbomb]

##vote worcej

Would you like to update us on your thinking?

yes I think worcej looks more desperate than s&c at present. and when rereading his posts he begins every post with I. He is very self focused and spent all his energy defending himself from bozo, without any reasons why he actually scumreads anyone.

[brainbomb]

Honestly, my gut is this currently - ##vote brainbomb

He's openly doing his thing and has gotten a pass on his vote move to ND, which would be the most likely bus move of the group in my eyes.

this just feels like desperation

[Jamiet99uk]

Honestly, my gut is this currently - ##vote brainbomb

He's openly doing his thing and has gotten a pass on his vote move to ND, which would be the most likely bus move of the group in my eyes.

this just feels like desperation

But that post does not begin with "I", which invalidates your theory.

[brainbomb]

Honestly, my gut is this currently - ##vote brainbomb

He's openly doing his thing and has gotten a pass on his vote move to ND, which would be the most likely bus move of the group in my eyes.

this just feels like desperation

But that post does not begin with "I", which invalidates your theory.

do you need me to demonstrate the abnormality?

Page 11 is a good example of being very inwardly focused.

[Jamiet99uk]

this just feels like desperation

But that post does not begin with "I", which invalidates your theory.

do you need me to demonstrate the abnormality?

Page 11 is a good example of being very inwardly focused.

I think your focus on posts starting with the letter I is odd.

It's a natural way people communicate. It's not abnormal.

If I ask someone a question, it is quite natural that they might respond:

"I think the answer is [such and such]..."

I would say if you survey a lot of people's posts, a lot of their paragraphs will start with the letter I, certainly more frequently than most other letters of the alphabet.

I therefore think you're putting to much emphasis on the use of "I".

I draw your attention to the fact that every sentence in this post starts with that letter, yet this post does not seem unusual in tone, grammar, style, or tone.

[brainbomb]

But that post does not begin with "I", which invalidates your theory.

do you need me to demonstrate the abnormality?

Page 11 is a good example of being very inwardly focused.

I think your focus on posts starting with the letter I is odd.

It's a natural way people communicate. It's not abnormal.

If I ask someone a question, it is quite natural that they might respond:

"I think the answer is [such and such]..."

I would say if you survey a lot of people's posts, a lot of their paragraphs will start with the letter I, certainly more frequently than most other letters of the alphabet.

I therefore think you're putting to much emphasis on the use of "I".

I draw your attention to the fact that every sentence in this post starts with that letter, yet this post does not seem unusual in tone, grammar, style, or tone.

its a pretty unnatural way to communicate when the majority of a persons posts are "in my honest opinion", "to be completely honest", "if im being honest", and that very robotic string of posts where its all
I think
I feel like
I think

it didnt seem normal at all to me

[bozotheclown]

sweet, you were here and you said nothing.

everything ok?

Daughter woke up, just as I saw the result.

I was intending to ask, would it be appropriate for doctor and person they saved to claim? Limiting the poe? Or better to wait?

Saved one reveal yourself. Scum already know. There is no point not claiming.

Would they even get a message? I thought only doc and Mafia would know the identity of the saved.

In the first post, you asked if the person the doctor saved should claim, but in the second post, you indicated you did not think the person saved would be notified. Can you explain what you meant by the first post?

[Jamiet99uk]

I was intending to ask, would it be appropriate for doctor and person they saved to claim? Limiting the poe? Or better to wait?

I think the saved can claim. Maf can't afford to fake claim or pretend to be doc to deny te claim and if doc self saved maf know their identity anyway.

I would say there are 2 possibilities as 3 is just a special case of 2 where both happen to be the same person (I wonder if they get 2 messages, doesn't matter).

I think one is highly unlikely unless sweet was so busy enjoying his holiday he forgot. Or worcej CBA. Or brain is incompetently messing about. Or Jamie is meddling with my brain. Or I've overlooked a clever Bozo plan. Or HamB screwed up.

I don't see currently having no votes as relevant. A reveal would prevent any future misvotes.

I don't mind declaring I was not saved. Gives scum no info.

P.S. I can neither confirm nor deny I know the identity of the saved one.

^ @Brainbomb: You can see that Damo does it frequently as well. Does this prove that Damo is nervous scum?

[Jamiet99uk]

sweet, you were here and you said nothing.

everything ok?

Daughter woke up, just as I saw the result.

I was intending to ask, would it be appropriate for doctor and person they saved to claim? Limiting the poe? Or better to wait?

Saved one reveal yourself. Scum already know. There is no point not claiming.

Would they even get a message? I thought only doc and Mafia would know the identity of the saved.

In the first post, you asked if the person the doctor saved should claim, but in the second post, you indicated you did not think the person saved would be notified. Can you explain what you meant by the first post?

BINGO

This is a great observation by Bozo. Well spotted, Clown.

[bozotheclown]

No, I object to that!

Do you think you can do better than 25% in identify mafia and getting them DKed D1?

Assume I'm town, and if you are town then randomly voting for someone else gives 50%, which is a lot more exciting that 25%.

If the reason for saying 50% here was that you thought there were 3 mafia out of 8 players, so that assuming you were town would give me a 3 in 6 chance of randomly voting for mafia, why didn't you question my 25% chance of a 1 in 8 random event selecting a mafia, if you thought that would be 3/8 instead of 2/8?

[bozotheclown]

having more time to think about it, I like Jamie more after tonight. I still think bozo is pretty undeniably town. Then my scumleans get real fuzzy

I think sweet is scummier in play so far than hamilton.
and then worcej is doing alot of self defense rather than actual investigating so im probably okay with a worcej death

It isn't self defense - it's about trying to figure out where people stand on the gamestate and how they are arriving at the conclusions. My D2 flip will do nothing to provide more information to the town unless I force people to connect to me more.

One thing to note: bozo seems to have abandoned his original rational for wanting me on D2 and instead has shifted into the VCA/non-bus methodology.

Both of these reasons for thinking you might be mafia can exist at the same time.

[Jamiet99uk]

Do you think you can do better than 25% in identify mafia and getting them DKed D1?

Assume I'm town, and if you are town then randomly voting for someone else gives 50%, which is a lot more exciting that 25%.

If the reason for saying 50% here was that you thought there were 3 mafia out of 8 players, so that assuming you were town would give me a 3 in 6 chance of randomly voting for mafia, why didn't you question my 25% chance of a 1 in 8 random event selecting a mafia, if you thought that would be 3/8 instead of 2/8?

You've got 'em here, Bozo.

Solid work.

[brainbomb]

I was intending to ask, would it be appropriate for doctor and person they saved to claim? Limiting the poe? Or better to wait?

I think the saved can claim. Maf can't afford to fake claim or pretend to be doc to deny te claim and if doc self saved maf know their identity anyway.

I would say there are 2 possibilities as 3 is just a special case of 2 where both happen to be the same person (I wonder if they get 2 messages, doesn't matter).

I think one is highly unlikely unless sweet was so busy enjoying his holiday he forgot. Or worcej CBA. Or brain is incompetently messing about. Or Jamie is meddling with my brain. Or I've overlooked a clever Bozo plan. Or HamB screwed up.

you are missing the point to focus on minutae

I don't see currently having no votes as relevant. A reveal would prevent any future misvotes.

I don't mind declaring I was not saved. Gives scum no info.

P.S. I can neither confirm nor deny I know the identity of the saved one.

^ @Brainbomb: You can see that Damo does it frequently as well. Does this prove that Damo is nervous scum?

[Jamiet99uk]

Brainbomb did you just quote my post without replying to anything?

[brainbomb]

it formatted wrong
I said you are missing the point to focus on minutae