M80 Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

I think ghug just has to go. It may just be an unfortunate coincidence that Haze RBd ghug N1 and Mafia didn't jail worcej but ....

As far as I know it was only ghug who sussed Haze as Capt N2 and X visits Haze N2. Another coincidence?

Too much.

Ghug cannot be Agent as e would have probably taken Haze out so he must be Enforcer. But then why did the Agent not bomb Haze? Because ghug would be sole surviving scum with a link to the dead Captain so they couldn't afford to do it.

##vote ghug

Why would wolf!Ghug be agent? Why suicide on him instead of just normal kill?

[Haze with a Z]

Ok then do me a favor and imagine town ghug for a second. Whose reaction here is most out of character?

I think your wagon is completely town, so I can't see any out of character reaction here.

Bunny reaction is the weirdest, he completely ignored Haze and Ghug thing.

You're not at all bothered by Jamie?

ok perhaps i need to reread jamie as well

[BunnyGo]

just for the sake of humoring this. I reread Day 3, a day I only posted 3 times and I was gone most of it.

Entering the day I noticed pre damo claim that three people were already pushing xcution and I just wondered if any of those maybe saw damo visit x, and thus they moved there as fast as possible to look good.

and those three are sweet, dousing and kak. correct me on this if im wrong, and this may just be they all had really solid reasons to vote xcution. havent fully ruled out that its too convenient I guess. just thinking here

You’re wondering if they’re bussing X because they KNEW damo had mech intel?

[brainbomb]

My first worldview of the game is that
ghug was just mafia and sweet is partner who was cooking up a plausible deniability path to save ghug because they realized at the time that mafia was gonna have a horrendous road ahead if ghug dies there.

viewtopic.php?p=345243&sid=64aec4a309bc ... 87#p345243

Around page 234 is where I start talking about just how many miskills it will take for scum to win.
Page 235 is where I start to suspect sweetandcool

viewtopic.php?p=345258&sid=b942fef28eb1 ... 73#p345258

And then after sweet starts to realize I am scumreading him he sees that his status as top town is in jeopardy so plan B is to now find a way to get ghug to stay alive.

sweetandcool had this case stashed if this happens and posts it now on bottom of page 235
viewtopic.php?p=345274&sid=b942fef28eb1 ... 73#p345274

After this, and ever since, sweet has changed tone he had most of the game. Now hes frantic, working overtime to clear ghug, giving no disceranable scumreads. providing no in game reasons other than mech to clear ghug. which signals the desperation that the game is on the line here.


Theory 2
sweetandcool is mafia but not with ghug.
sweet decides that the best way to get all the miskills he needs is to use TMI that ghug is town but hide behind a mech reason. scum sweet knows this is the true answer and his partner is actually dousing and knows one or both of them are in good shape as long as town kills ghug.

So sweet wants the case to be taken seriously so town kills bunny, then town kills kak, then town kills bb, then town kills rdr, buying scum enough phases to kill all existing PR and reach a final 5 still looking great because it was their case on ghug everyone should have listened too.

evidence shows at times that sweet wants ghug to live, but also doesnt want ghug to actually live. there are contradictions, emotional appeals all along, and loads of TMI about the night actions where in the post he even admits he has done the math because hes scum and no one is gonna realize it

[Haze with a Z]

did you suppose ghug ever told anyone in wolf chat not to be afraid of me because I change my mind all the time anyway?

I claim that ghug has no access to wolf chat, and my argument is incredibly strong, in my opinion.

Voting ghug today is a big mistake.

...

[BunnyGo]

On a scale of 1-10 I am really not moved by anything ghug has said today, id give it a 3 for the tone change to somber. The trick is trying to find his lone wolfy wolf

Look, I know I'm going down. I'm gonna try because I always try but I get why y'all want to kill me here. I'm definitely grumpy because this is a shitty way to go and I'm on a steak of early nightkills punctuated with one scum game where Eden bussed me D2 and not this game where there have just been a bunch of mech kills culminating in me. I'm sad because I think I might have believed me here and because Rd is probably town and being so unbelievably useless. I'm also worried that you're going to spend the day looking for my partner, see me flip town, and then be burned out on hunting, so you should really be hammering me if you don't see your mind changing.

This would feel townier before the multiple players already posting they’re considering (damo, brain, sweet, me). As is, feels over the top.

[damo666]

I think ghug just has to go. It may just be an unfortunate coincidence that Haze RBd ghug N1 and Mafia didn't jail worcej but ....

As far as I know it was only ghug who sussed Haze as Capt N2 and X visits Haze N2. Another coincidence?

Too much.

Ghug cannot be Agent as e would have probably taken Haze out so he must be Enforcer. But then why did the Agent not bomb Haze? Because ghug would be sole surviving scum with a link to the dead Captain so they couldn't afford to do it.

##vote ghug

Why would wolf!Ghug be agent? Why suicide on him instead of just normal kill?

What?

[BunnyGo]

did you suppose ghug ever told anyone in wolf chat not to be afraid of me because I change my mind all the time anyway?

I claim that ghug has no access to wolf chat, and my argument is incredibly strong, in my opinion.

Voting ghug today is a big mistake.

...

!!

[brainbomb]

dousings role in this is to dumbtell his way to the finish line and say things that display a faked lack of any awareness. claiming they need to wait for the 4th PR, and other statements which just never really come off as geniune.

And dousing is much like sweet, purely a townread because of things xcution said, and nothing more. Easily staged and this community tends to think scum theatre to this level doesnt exist. because the players here dont really think this way and havent seen these antics very often outside of balki or hellenic riot.

ghug is exaplained as town because he is pocketed beyond any reasonable imagination because sweet is the only person who even tried to look for a reason to buy him as town.

[sweetandcool]

My first worldview of the game is that
ghug was just mafia and sweet is partner who was cooking up a plausible deniability path to save ghug because they realized at the time that mafia was gonna have a horrendous road ahead if ghug dies there.

viewtopic.php?p=345243&sid=64aec4a309bc ... 87#p345243

Around page 234 is where I start talking about just how many miskills it will take for scum to win.
Page 235 is where I start to suspect sweetandcool

viewtopic.php?p=345258&sid=b942fef28eb1 ... 73#p345258

And then after sweet starts to realize I am scumreading him he sees that his status as top town is in jeopardy so plan B is to now find a way to get ghug to stay alive.

sweetandcool had this case stashed if this happens and posts it now on bottom of page 235
viewtopic.php?p=345274&sid=b942fef28eb1 ... 73#p345274

After this, and ever since, sweet has changed tone he had most of the game. Now hes frantic, working overtime to clear ghug, giving no disceranable scumreads. providing no in game reasons other than mech to clear ghug. which signals the desperation that the game is on the line here.


Theory 2
sweetandcool is mafia but not with ghug.
sweet decides that the best way to get all the miskills he needs is to use TMI that ghug is town but hide behind a mech reason. scum sweet knows this is the true answer and his partner is actually dousing and knows one or both of them are in good shape as long as town kills ghug.

So sweet wants the case to be taken seriously so town kills bunny, then town kills kak, then town kills bb, then town kills rdr, buying scum enough phases to kill all existing PR and reach a final 5 still looking great because it was their case on ghug everyone should have listened too.

evidence shows at times that sweet wants ghug to live, but also doesnt want ghug to actually live. there are contradictions, emotional appeals all along, and loads of TMI about the night actions where in the post he even admits he has done the math because hes scum and no one is gonna realize it

I subscribe to theory 2, please ##VOTE sweetandcool

[BunnyGo]

I think ghug just has to go. It may just be an unfortunate coincidence that Haze RBd ghug N1 and Mafia didn't jail worcej but ....

As far as I know it was only ghug who sussed Haze as Capt N2 and X visits Haze N2. Another coincidence?

Too much.

Ghug cannot be Agent as e would have probably taken Haze out so he must be Enforcer. But then why did the Agent not bomb Haze? Because ghug would be sole surviving scum with a link to the dead Captain so they couldn't afford to do it.

##vote ghug

Why would wolf!Ghug be agent? Why suicide on him instead of just normal kill?

What?

Why do you think he needs to suicide on HaZe? If wolf!Ghug knows haze is captain, just NK…right?

[BunnyGo]

My first worldview of the game is that
ghug was just mafia and sweet is partner who was cooking up a plausible deniability path to save ghug because they realized at the time that mafia was gonna have a horrendous road ahead if ghug dies there.

viewtopic.php?p=345243&sid=64aec4a309bc ... 87#p345243

Around page 234 is where I start talking about just how many miskills it will take for scum to win.
Page 235 is where I start to suspect sweetandcool

viewtopic.php?p=345258&sid=b942fef28eb1 ... 73#p345258

And then after sweet starts to realize I am scumreading him he sees that his status as top town is in jeopardy so plan B is to now find a way to get ghug to stay alive.

sweetandcool had this case stashed if this happens and posts it now on bottom of page 235
viewtopic.php?p=345274&sid=b942fef28eb1 ... 73#p345274

After this, and ever since, sweet has changed tone he had most of the game. Now hes frantic, working overtime to clear ghug, giving no disceranable scumreads. providing no in game reasons other than mech to clear ghug. which signals the desperation that the game is on the line here.


Theory 2
sweetandcool is mafia but not with ghug.
sweet decides that the best way to get all the miskills he needs is to use TMI that ghug is town but hide behind a mech reason. scum sweet knows this is the true answer and his partner is actually dousing and knows one or both of them are in good shape as long as town kills ghug.

So sweet wants the case to be taken seriously so town kills bunny, then town kills kak, then town kills bb, then town kills rdr, buying scum enough phases to kill all existing PR and reach a final 5 still looking great because it was their case on ghug everyone should have listened too.

evidence shows at times that sweet wants ghug to live, but also doesnt want ghug to actually live. there are contradictions, emotional appeals all along, and loads of TMI about the night actions where in the post he even admits he has done the math because hes scum and no one is gonna realize it

I subscribe to theory 2, please ##VOTE sweetandcool

TF?!

What is happening?

[damo666]

Why would wolf!Ghug be agent? Why suicide on him instead of just normal kill?

What?

Why do you think he needs to suicide on HaZe? If wolf!Ghug knows haze is captain, just NK…right?

In addition to the Eden kill

[damo666]

@sweet

stop it

[brainbomb]

Bunny is explained as a town who is just never around and is always catching up with a busy life, parenting and an overall dislike for hard to read players. He struggles with kak because kak is wildly outlandish and makes little to no sense sometimes. he struggles with me in this same way. bunny gets weary of being misread and miskilled so he just prefers to play the game the way he wants to play it.

[Haze with a Z]

##vote sweet

gonna go here for now I think

[damo666]

What?

Why do you think he needs to suicide on HaZe? If wolf!Ghug knows haze is captain, just NK…right?

In addition to the Eden kill

Anyway he couldn't because you're the agent

##vote Bunny

[damo666]

##vote sweet

gonna go here for now I think

Really?

[brainbomb]

theory 3
is that sweet and cool is town, and ghug is town
and ive really just derailed the game and sweet is losing his mind because of it, and the scum is actually just bunny and jamie, and bunny who has been super busy IRL put in a jail on me but never came back to change it to Eden. And Jamie decided that jailing me is smart because I claim everything that ever happens to me so long term that would just get me miskilled eventually.

[brainbomb]

im not a fan of theory 3 because its super boring, and I would expect more interesting things than theory 3.

but sometimes boring is the right answer.

admittedly