MAFIA 71: "PAPERS PLEASE" - GAME THREAD [Hidden]

[brainbomb]

https://youtu.be/yNaTZV8qS1I

[brainbomb]

my thought on eden is that he is town but encountered heavy frustration and feels like doing something better with his free time

[damo666]

Has Flum turned into Snowy?

[captainmeme]

Flum; youre forgetting that through failure we learn who tried and who did not. if no one tries all we learn is that no one tried to make anything happen which long term is far more costly to building the strands we need to analyze

This reasoning works better when people don't die as a result of it

"why did you send my son off to die in a suicide mission ;-; '
'it's alright fam we got to see who tried to save him'

#stopthekilling #werebetterthanthis

[captainmeme]

I call upon every responsible citizen of this state to cease this ridiculous vigilante-ism. Nobody's died yet, what crime are we even punishing?

[rdrivera2005]

I like Tom so far also, though I feel like some people made that declaration a little faster than warranted. One of those people was Damo, though, and that's not sus from him.

Rivera seems different this game - more relaxed or positive or optimistic, I think? He's engaging more than I think he normally does early and buddying up to Sabi. I don't know if the engagement difference is alignment-indicative from him, but I actually think his praising of Sabi's more inquisitive style is towny, because I remember how frustrated he got with Sarah when she joined and never played and was a detriment to town. I think Rivera is more likely to genuinely appreciate Sabi's efforts to solve if he's town than he is to buddy Sabi if he's scum.

I am not optimistic, I think this game is really hard for town.

I am relaxed but I usually have been relaxed when I am 100% confirmed vanilla town ®

About Sabi I have played with them before and didn't like their "don't care" approach, this game I am really liking the effort and the will to improve.

Hey I learned my lesson after being yelled at by everyone and their moms my first two games. I never want to be told "you suck, never play mafia again" again because it kinda hurt me not even going to lie.

I will say you are a lot more talkative this game than our previous one. Not sure if that's due to timing of your schedule or alignment based.

Anyway rdr here's some questions for you :

What post so far has caught your eye and why? It can be good or bad or something that people missed completely.

Out of everyone's reads so far who do you disagree the most with and why?

How are you relaxed in this game especially with multi mafia team set up?

I would appreciate if you would answer them. Thank you : )

Anyway rdr here's some questions for you :

What post so far has caught your eye and why? It can be good or bad or something that people missed completely.
Probably not what you want but I really like the post you said Fox is like Damo and Squigs having a baby, lol.

Out of everyone's reads so far who do you disagree the most with and why?
I don't get much of Brain scumreads. Too many scumreads for so early in the game, but it's Brain.

How are you relaxed in this game especially with multi mafia team set up?
Why not? I don't think being relaxed is AI to me, it's more about my current mindset.

[brainbomb]

Flum; youre forgetting that through failure we learn who tried and who did not. if no one tries all we learn is that no one tried to make anything happen which long term is far more costly to building the strands we need to analyze

This reasoning works better when people don't die as a result of it

"why did you send my son off to die in a suicide mission ;-; '
'it's alright fam we got to see who tried to save him'

#stopthekilling #werebetterthanthis

thats basically how this game works? why are you applying this analogy in a game where only through death we can obtain partial truth

[brainbomb]

meme is playing hacksaw ridge mafia with us

[ChrisVis]

hi Chris,
I know you are newer and this forum is really hard to keep up with. fancy a dialogue?

Yes Brainbomb, I am knew hear. With the amount of acrimony flying around, I can't say I "fancy" a dialogue, but I am willing to communicate with you in a civil manner. To put our dialogue in context, I should note that you first made a negative statement about me, which I quote below, and then you asked for a dialogue.

Your opening interaction with me :

Brainbomb : "the people who strike me as scum so far is durga, bona, chris, flyingboat"

I forgive you your views, and your grammar, and I undertake to conduct this dialogue with an open mind towards you.

Regards, Chris.

[Durga]

He's trolling why are you taking him seriously

[BesharamSabi]

I am not optimistic, I think this game is really hard for town.

I am relaxed but I usually have been relaxed when I am 100% confirmed vanilla town ®

About Sabi I have played with them before and didn't like their "don't care" approach, this game I am really liking the effort and the will to improve.

Hey I learned my lesson after being yelled at by everyone and their moms my first two games. I never want to be told "you suck, never play mafia again" again because it kinda hurt me not even going to lie.

I will say you are a lot more talkative this game than our previous one. Not sure if that's due to timing of your schedule or alignment based.

Anyway rdr here's some questions for you :

What post so far has caught your eye and why? It can be good or bad or something that people missed completely.

Out of everyone's reads so far who do you disagree the most with and why?

How are you relaxed in this game especially with multi mafia team set up?

I would appreciate if you would answer them. Thank you : )

Anyway rdr here's some questions for you :

What post so far has caught your eye and why? It can be good or bad or something that people missed completely.
Probably not what you want but I really like the post you said Fox is like Damo and Squigs having a baby, lol.

Out of everyone's reads so far who do you disagree the most with and why?
I don't get much of Brain scumreads. Too many scumreads for so early in the game, but it's Brain.

How are you relaxed in this game especially with multi mafia team set up?
Why not? I don't think being relaxed is AI to me, it's more about my current mindset.

Thank you for responding, I appreciate it. Anyway time to dig into these answers.

Probably not what you want but I really like the post you said Fox is like Damo and Squigs having a baby, lol.

Why would I not want to hear that lol? I feel like it's a fair assessment of my impression so far with fox. He has damo need to guess who is scum teammates and Squigs need to make me write essays on day 1.

Too many scumreads for so early in the game, but it's Brain.

I do agree there's a lot of scum reads for less than 24 hours into a game. You said it's brain but like is this AI or NAI?

I don't think being relaxed is AI to me

Oh it's not AI at all. This game just feels more stressful for me because of how it's set up and what not. Just worried about miskilling someone on day one.

[brainbomb]

hi Chris,
I know you are newer and this forum is really hard to keep up with. fancy a dialogue?

Yes Brainbomb, I am knew hear. With the amount of acrimony flying around, I can't say I "fancy" a dialogue, but I am willing to communicate with you in a civil manner. To put our dialogue in context, I should note that you first made a negative statement about me, which I quote below, and then you asked for a dialogue.

Your opening interaction with me :

Brainbomb : "the people who strike me as scum so far is durga, bona, chris, flyingboat"

I forgive you your views, and your grammar, and I undertake to conduct this dialogue with an open mind towards you.

Regards, Chris.

My scumread of you was not vitriolic or negative. Merely my experiential opinion but if you took offense and felt dejected I am indeed sorry.

Tell me how you feel about a handful of players of your choosing and I will share how I feel about those players and what I think they are aligned as

[brainbomb]

He's trolling why are you taking him seriously

I was not aware he was trolling for the sake of trolling. I thought he was actually taking this stance since its all hes said so far and all hes voted as so far. the only other opinion I saw was a partial desire to eliminate me if a no kill wasnt popular?

[brainbomb]

Hey I learned my lesson after being yelled at by everyone and their moms my first two games. I never want to be told "you suck, never play mafia again" again because it kinda hurt me not even going to lie.

I will say you are a lot more talkative this game than our previous one. Not sure if that's due to timing of your schedule or alignment based.

Anyway rdr here's some questions for you :

What post so far has caught your eye and why? It can be good or bad or something that people missed completely.

Out of everyone's reads so far who do you disagree the most with and why?

How are you relaxed in this game especially with multi mafia team set up?

I would appreciate if you would answer them. Thank you : )

Anyway rdr here's some questions for you :

What post so far has caught your eye and why? It can be good or bad or something that people missed completely.
Probably not what you want but I really like the post you said Fox is like Damo and Squigs having a baby, lol.

Out of everyone's reads so far who do you disagree the most with and why?
I don't get much of Brain scumreads. Too many scumreads for so early in the game, but it's Brain.

How are you relaxed in this game especially with multi mafia team set up?
Why not? I don't think being relaxed is AI to me, it's more about my current mindset.

Thank you for responding, I appreciate it. Anyway time to dig into these answers.

Probably not what you want but I really like the post you said Fox is like Damo and Squigs having a baby, lol.

Why would I not want to hear that lol? I feel like it's a fair assessment of my impression so far with fox. He has damo need to guess who is scum teammates and Squigs need to make me write essays on day 1.

Too many scumreads for so early in the game, but it's Brain.

I do agree there's a lot of scum reads for less than 24 hours into a game. You said it's brain but like is this AI or NAI?

I don't think being relaxed is AI to me

Oh it's not AI at all. This game just feels more stressful for me because of how it's set up and what not. Just worried about miskilling someone on day one.

I was saying up to this point that those players felt more pedestrian than others and they stood out to me as potential scum. 4 scumreads 20 pages in is very normal?

[Foxcastle]

What does everyone think of Sabi's need to constantly remind us that they are honest?

I am honestly asking to get an idea on how players think they play. I rather they tell me than hear a third party meta opinion on how they play. Like I want to know if I should be annoyed all their game play is shit posting or do they put in genuine effort in the game.

I am sure if someone is being completely off based in their answer that people will jump in to correct.

Honestly tho last game everyone answer matched how they played the game.

I don't see a useful reason for anyone to not give a genuine honest answer to it but maybe I will be proven wrong.

Smacks of guilty conscience, perhaps?

[BesharamSabi]

What does everyone think of Sabi's need to constantly remind us that they are honest?

I am honestly asking to get an idea on how players think they play. I rather they tell me than hear a third party meta opinion on how they play. Like I want to know if I should be annoyed all their game play is shit posting or do they put in genuine effort in the game.

I am sure if someone is being completely off based in their answer that people will jump in to correct.

Honestly tho last game everyone answer matched how they played the game.

I don't see a useful reason for anyone to not give a genuine honest answer to it but maybe I will be proven wrong.

Smacks of guilty conscience, perhaps?

There's a lot of words I use a lot. Honestly is something I say a lot day to day lol just my manner of speech. I also say appreciate that quite a bit and what not in case you want to analyze my usage of appreciate that vs thank you in case you think it's a code. Much to think about.

I guess it does look sus if you don't know me but I will let those who know me can vouch for me.

I have no idea what else to say lol.

You never told me the results of my pop quiz hmm. Was I right or wrong?

[TheFlyingBoat]

the people who strike me as scum so far is durga, bona, chris, flyingboat

I feel pretty good about kgray, tom bomb, foxcastle, ghug, and eden

Ah some things never change do they brainbomb!

Howdy.
on an unrelated note you look alot like Mina Kimes from espn.

also please dont mistake my read on you for being habitual. I have often townread you in the past; I dont get the usual vibe of tenacity from you so far. Usually someone says something really stupid or puts out some horrible plan for how to play day one like massclaims or no kill and youre the first to repudiate it. often a bad read you are first to repudiate as well.

I can attribute it to that you are still feeling the game out as well.

Hold up, in what world does Durga look like ESPN great Mina Kimes (tied for my favorite analyst with Pablo Torre)?

[rdrivera2005]

Hey I learned my lesson after being yelled at by everyone and their moms my first two games. I never want to be told "you suck, never play mafia again" again because it kinda hurt me not even going to lie.

I will say you are a lot more talkative this game than our previous one. Not sure if that's due to timing of your schedule or alignment based.

Anyway rdr here's some questions for you :

What post so far has caught your eye and why? It can be good or bad or something that people missed completely.

Out of everyone's reads so far who do you disagree the most with and why?

How are you relaxed in this game especially with multi mafia team set up?

I would appreciate if you would answer them. Thank you : )

Anyway rdr here's some questions for you :

What post so far has caught your eye and why? It can be good or bad or something that people missed completely.
Probably not what you want but I really like the post you said Fox is like Damo and Squigs having a baby, lol.

Out of everyone's reads so far who do you disagree the most with and why?
I don't get much of Brain scumreads. Too many scumreads for so early in the game, but it's Brain.

How are you relaxed in this game especially with multi mafia team set up?
Why not? I don't think being relaxed is AI to me, it's more about my current mindset.

Thank you for responding, I appreciate it. Anyway time to dig into these answers.

Probably not what you want but I really like the post you said Fox is like Damo and Squigs having a baby, lol.

Why would I not want to hear that lol? I feel like it's a fair assessment of my impression so far with fox. He has damo need to guess who is scum teammates and Squigs need to make me write essays on day 1.

Too many scumreads for so early in the game, but it's Brain.

I do agree there's a lot of scum reads for less than 24 hours into a game. You said it's brain but like is this AI or NAI?

I don't think being relaxed is AI to me

Oh it's not AI at all. This game just feels more stressful for me because of how it's set up and what not. Just worried about miskilling someone on day one.

It's NAI for Brain. He usually scumread everyone at some point and many times he is right but start doubting himself.

Miskilling on D1 is the most likely outcome, so I don't feel pressured about it.

[captainmeme]

I may be being a little troll-y with the reasoning but no kill D1 is genuinely the best move in this setup

But nobody will actually do it because 'ITS NOT ACTING ON MUH READS'

[BesharamSabi]

Anyway rdr here's some questions for you :

What post so far has caught your eye and why? It can be good or bad or something that people missed completely.
Probably not what you want but I really like the post you said Fox is like Damo and Squigs having a baby, lol.

Out of everyone's reads so far who do you disagree the most with and why?
I don't get much of Brain scumreads. Too many scumreads for so early in the game, but it's Brain.

How are you relaxed in this game especially with multi mafia team set up?
Why not? I don't think being relaxed is AI to me, it's more about my current mindset.

Thank you for responding, I appreciate it. Anyway time to dig into these answers.

Probably not what you want but I really like the post you said Fox is like Damo and Squigs having a baby, lol.

Why would I not want to hear that lol? I feel like it's a fair assessment of my impression so far with fox. He has damo need to guess who is scum teammates and Squigs need to make me write essays on day 1.

Too many scumreads for so early in the game, but it's Brain.

I do agree there's a lot of scum reads for less than 24 hours into a game. You said it's brain but like is this AI or NAI?

I don't think being relaxed is AI to me

Oh it's not AI at all. This game just feels more stressful for me because of how it's set up and what not. Just worried about miskilling someone on day one.

I was saying up to this point that those players felt more pedestrian than others and they stood out to me as potential scum. 4 scumreads 20 pages in is very normal?

HI brain bomb, I have not been ignoring you. I wish I could +1 posts so you knew I acknowledge what you said but whatever dictator Jamiet is the worst.

It just seem pretty quick to me that's all. But I guess you just want to apply pressure early which is a fair strategy.

What about those four feels pedestrian to you? What are the posts that trigger those vibes for you?

I just want to know your thought process. I much appreciate it.