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[ghug]

##OFFICIAL ROSTER

1 QB 1 Colby

2 RB 1 ghug

3 RB 2 Bozo

4 WR 1 Flum

5 WR 2 worcej

6 TE damo

7 FLEX Bunny

8 D/ST sweetandcool

9 K

10 I/R Glitterbomb

[ghug]

My money is still on Flum/worcej, so I guess I'll vote to RB there.

I think sweet was legitimately frustrated at Glitter so she's probably town.
I agree with Flum that the Colby defense is unlikely to be scum/scum.
Sweet has appeared very bothered by my assertion that he had the opportunity to vote Flum and didn't yesterday, but he made several posts after I asked him to vote Flum, so while I believe the out of game excuse insofar as it caused him to not be around as long, I don't buy that it makes his not voting for Flum less problematic.

IDK why you expect me to knee jerk vote for my third scumread over my top two. I was coming to the realization the other two weren't going to fly and that I should vote Flum when IRL screwed me over.

It still hurts to see obvious scum damo getting free yet another day.

[ghug]

Because you're not even trying anymore.

I'm not trying anymore?

I do think it is weird that you'd immediately be in line with all of this crud. How could Bunny lying not cross your mind? How could you be so gung-ho for something that should be turning your world upside down?

[ghug]

Oh dear, I have been a bit stupid.

Bunny alluded to this point when railing at damo, but I think it's worth considering all the nasty things Mafia could have done while in PR positions. I think in the end this only applies to damo, since I think our other PRs are either flipped our obvtown or Bozo. But it's definitely worth a critical examination of the type of plays Mafia could have gone for, particularly when damo got the gun.

Okay now really goodnight.

This seems fake AF

Whoops I meant goodbye obviously.

[ghug]

Great, I can't explain (rather am too embarrassed to), but I will not be posting anything of substance.

If I somehow survive today I will be able to write more.

Basically, when time runs out this post ends and I don't know if I will get another.

Damon could be a victim of circumstance. Him bluffing Mafia by not saving Ham and saving two players is believable, and it's crazy that Mafia went for Ham. That suggests Mafia knew Ham was a safe target and damo is Mafia.

Still, it is possible that happened, and the other reasons I scumread him for his bad reads could be explained by my reads being bad.

Bunny is Town, his play hurts me, but maybe it has yielded info. Scum Bunny had no reason to recant his MK.

Ghug and Flum and Bozo's reaction of immediate eagerness and showing no signs of considering otherwise about Bunny's lie mean there is likely 1-2 Mafia there.

It's hard to believe Flum and ghug wouybe engaging in mutual bussing for no reason, but I haven't been able to examine close if there could be one.

Flum independently has looked a lot scummier to me, very shallow and not seeming to solve so I think he is scum.

I really think there is a strong chance ghug is as well, but his dynamic with Flum muddies things.

Bozo it is absolutely stunning never seemed to properly consider Bunny lying, and I find it hard to believe that Town Bozo does that. But I have too many scum now, and it's crazy to think all three players scum.

Colby is still Town, I don't have time to explain but he had a very Townie reaction and if somehow Mafia then amazing acting.

Gbomb still seems independently incredibly scummy. Her notes could come from Town or scumz it's just the way she plays apparently. Her teasing and question avoidance and nonsensical reads it's hard to believe could ever come from Town.

That's about as far as I got, though this post was supposed to be elaborated and better sorry.

We need Flum or preferably Gbomb today.

[ghug]

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?user=Sweet*&word=*wor*&g=1033

[ghug]

##VOTE FLUM

[BunnyGo]

Flum was just being mean to me because he didn’t feel like he deserved to be caught like that?

That’s not nice Flum.

That’s a nice case ghug put together there, your honor. ##vote Flum

[BunnyGo]

Worcej/Colby/Kak/Flum?

That's the team you think or one of them is Mafia?

I think you have Colby wrong.

I get the accusation here: damo lies about the shot, scum Colby scumslips by assuming the correct NK, consequently Colby is scum.

This is very plausible, but I don't believe it.

Instead, Town Colby still is stuck on damo shooting Will and rdr as NK. Because that is what was strongly touted (particularly by me), in the thread for hours before damo "corrected" it.

What makes this version more compelling is all of the Town slips you have pointed out this game.

Like Colby could be making a concerted effort of scum theater, but I think it is too much to assume that.

I also find damo's rapidfire conclusion to be very convenient to him as scum damo.

Would sweet accurately name the one error here?

[BunnyGo]

Easily faked

Fuck me sideways the amount of tunneling you keep doing on me is driving me fucking nuts.

There isn't a single fucking thing I can do that doesn't satisfy you.

May I suggest Viagra for your ED?

Option one for this chain: town worcej and sweet joking with him to buddy?


Option 2: scum worcej and sweet trying to calm him down (while getting him up)

[BunnyGo]

You'd have to believe I am nakedly and strongly Townreading two of my teammates.

As Flav likes to say, press X to doubt.

Bunny and Colby are obviously Town so this is painful.

Bunny is obvtown now too?

Yes, I've thought Bunny Town for a decent while now.

Town:

Colby
Ham/Bunny
ghug

Middling:

Bozo
worcej
Kak(????)

Scummy:

Flum
Glitter bomb
damo

[BunnyGo]

Final Tally
QB tie
RB ghug (6)
RB2 damo (4)
WR worcej (3)
WR2 worcej (3)
TE damo (4)
Flex tie
Dst colby (4)
K tie
IR sweetandcool (5)

Please note the votes changed due to damo not submitting a valid roster
Hold if you see a mistake let me know

##CALL GM

if damo hadn’t been modkilled and Colby targeted for NK, who would have died? Damo as the TE? Or Colby since the TE was roleblocked?

[worcej]

We only have 6 players left and I think we want to fill QB, RB1, RB2, TE, D/ST, and I/R, and I don't think we should try to put anyone in 2 positions.

I agree on the consensus of 6 roles - spreading votes out can create tie opportunities for scum to weaken the night phase.

Also, not to beat the drum too hard - Flex over QB

Tell me more about this. Isn’t it super imperative to have a watcher at this point? Or are you just thinking since we’ve done without so much (sigh) that we can continue doing so and it’s more important to have the JOAT?

If we kill scum here and it’s 4-1, there are only 3 players that would be able to perform the NK (assuming 2 are RB’ed).

So in the situation that an RB isn’t on the scum, you have a 33% shot you gave the scum the watcher. You also have to hope the watcher actually targets the right person to reveal anything.

Whereas the joat can be a wildcard the scum player has to account for. A track would auto reveal or can clear someone. A vest makes them not able to be killed. And the vig shot keeps town in the game still if we misskill today somehow.

[worcej]

Is Kak OK?

For now I assume so.

I would be worried if he hadn't made his 2nd post.

I am just assuming unusually busy?

IMO this post clears ghug.

How? You’re more than capable to open wolf

[worcej]

Flum was just being mean to me because he didn’t feel like he deserved to be caught like that?

That’s not nice Flum.

That’s a nice case ghug put together there, your honor. ##vote Flum

Perhaps it’s the grog of EST and a shitty nights sleep, but what is the case here? I just see a spam of sweet’s posts and him implying he’s cleared somehow due to interactions with him and sweet?

[worcej]

Why is worcej town if he hasn't done anything that stands out to you?

Usually he messed up and slips by now. I don't think he's that good at scum tbh.

I think he's very good at just not being that interesting when he's scum. He's not great at leading a team, but he doesn't get himself caught.

IDK what I have done this game to qualify myself as not interesting or not being caught.

If I'm scum, then you'd have to agree to the following:

• I bussed two teammates when I didn't have to.
• I over-provided helpful information regarding roles and the setup.
• I intentionally placed myself in a bad role slot (TE) versus trying to leverage for a PR slot.

My frustration and why I scum you is your case at me for days was "meh, not towny enough" and now that the games on the line, you're using twisting content from sweet to re-justify the push on me.

[worcej]

##official roster
QB
RB Bunny
RB Flum
WR
WR
Flex worcej
TE Glitter
D/ST bozo
K
I/R ghug

I should be able to be back by 2 hours before EOD but may be cutting it close, depending on what happens at the customer today. I want to put this in incase shit goes south and I am stuck. I refuse to let myself be modkilled today and keep this game at milo accidently.

[BunnyGo]

##official roster
QB
RB Bunny
RB Flum
WR
WR
Flex worcej
TE Glitter
D/ST bozo
K
I/R ghug

I should be able to be back by 2 hours before EOD but may be cutting it close, depending on what happens at the customer today. I want to put this in incase shit goes south and I am stuck. I refuse to let myself be modkilled today and keep this game at milo accidently.

You wasted your first roster on shit?

You are AT BEST jet lagged and wrong on mechs

This is awful

[BunnyGo]

I agree on the consensus of 6 roles - spreading votes out can create tie opportunities for scum to weaken the night phase.

Also, not to beat the drum too hard - Flex over QB

Tell me more about this. Isn’t it super imperative to have a watcher at this point? Or are you just thinking since we’ve done without so much (sigh) that we can continue doing so and it’s more important to have the JOAT?

If we kill scum here and it’s 4-1, there are only 3 players that would be able to perform the NK (assuming 2 are RB’ed).

So in the situation that an RB isn’t on the scum, you have a 33% shot you gave the scum the watcher. You also have to hope the watcher actually targets the right person to reveal anything.

Whereas the joat can be a wildcard the scum player has to account for. A track would auto reveal or can clear someone. A vest makes them not able to be killed. And the vig shot keeps town in the game still if we misskill today somehow.

You’re only analyzing good case

If we catch scum today it’s 4-1 with 2 RB.


If anyone dies, we have two clears and win.

If nobody dies, either we have two clears, or scum give us extra hunting time. And we win.

We DONT want to risk fucking that up.

So no…if we catch scum today, we win


If we DONT catch scum today, we need to pray. That’s the hard case. That’s the case we protect against.

[BunnyGo]

##official roster
QB
RB Bunny
RB Flum
WR
WR
Flex worcej
TE Glitter
D/ST bozo
K
I/R ghug

I should be able to be back by 2 hours before EOD but may be cutting it close, depending on what happens at the customer today. I want to put this in incase shit goes south and I am stuck. I refuse to let myself be modkilled today and keep this game at milo accidently.

You wasted your first roster on shit?

You are AT BEST jet lagged and wrong on mechs

This is awful

And the fact worcej PUT HIMSELF IN FLEX means he has to be killed or roleblocked. I’d hate for him to correct this and use his second roster already. But this is awful otherwise.