MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

I am fairly confident that the 2 mafia voted to hammer Neon, unfortunately the mafia can likely get a mis-kill of lfischl to win.

Why do you exclude tfb?

It would be easy to see the momentum and stay away from it

Why hammer as town? What did it accomplish?

[BK3K]

Bozo turning on me and neon being convinced he's scum makes me sus. If town, i great Mafia will kill bozo tonight to set me up for miskill

My instinct is to vote Chaqa tomorrow. Three same reasons I've said all along apply

You say you like to troll. What's more trolly than scum claiming and getting away with it? I thought you acted town-y against neon yesterday, but that turned it to be crap. Scum would have known it was crap and played into without risk

I'm voting Chaqa tomorrow

[Chaqa]

I am fairly confident that the 2 mafia voted to hammer Neon, unfortunately the mafia can likely get a mis-kill of lfischl to win.

Why do you exclude tfb?

It would be easy to see the momentum and stay away from it

Why hammer as town? What did it accomplish?

We now spend this time speculating on who scum is knowing Neon was town, instead of having to consider both options.

[KoalaAttack]

I am fairly confident that the 2 mafia voted to hammer Neon, unfortunately the mafia can likely get a mis-kill of lfischl to win.

Since when and how did lfischl became a sure mis-kill with such confidence?

From my POV they still lurked the entire game and the one thing of note they did is come in to try and save President Eden. And sure, we can ignore todaybecause lfischl wouldn't have known about the early end. But I'd like to understand the rationale of why you move them beyond NAI?

[BK3K]

I am fairly confident that the 2 mafia voted to hammer Neon, unfortunately the mafia can likely get a mis-kill of lfischl to win.

Why do you exclude tfb?

It would be easy to see the momentum and stay away from it

Why hammer as town? What did it accomplish?

I wanted to see what happens next. And Neon's play seemed so crazy to me, i couldn't believe she was town

[lfischl]

ok I just got here, what the hell happened

Neon was hammered for fake claiming doctor.

Why’d we hammer that fast?

[bozotheclown]

Why do you exclude tfb?

It would be easy to see the momentum and stay away from it

Why hammer as town? What did it accomplish?

We now spend this time speculating on who scum is knowing Neon was town, instead of having to consider both options.

We could have taken more time to consider if we needed to policy Neon.

[bozotheclown]

Why do you exclude tfb?

It would be easy to see the momentum and stay away from it

Why hammer as town? What did it accomplish?

I wanted to see what happens next. And Neon's play seemed so crazy to me, i couldn't believe she was town

What happens now is we have a 40 hour N5.

[Chaqa]

Bozo turning on me and neon being convinced he's scum makes me sus. If town, i great Mafia will kill bozo tonight to set me up for miskill

My instinct is to vote Chaqa tomorrow. Three same reasons I've said all along apply

You say you like to troll. What's more trolly than scum claiming and getting away with it? I thought you acted town-y against neon yesterday, but that turned it to be crap. Scum would have known it was crap and played into without risk

I'm voting Chaqa tomorrow

Results-based thinking isn't really ideal here.

You thought I was being towny when Neon wasn't flipped, her flip shouldn't change that.

[bozotheclown]

ok I just got here, what the hell happened

Neon was hammered for fake claiming doctor.

Why’d we hammer that fast?

Would you have voted for Neon for fake claiming, and if so, would you have hammered?

[bozotheclown]

Bozo turning on me and neon being convinced he's scum makes me sus. If town, i great Mafia will kill bozo tonight to set me up for miskill

My instinct is to vote Chaqa tomorrow. Three same reasons I've said all along apply

You say you like to troll. What's more trolly than scum claiming and getting away with it? I thought you acted town-y against neon yesterday, but that turned it to be crap. Scum would have known it was crap and played into without risk

I'm voting Chaqa tomorrow

I don't think you have to worry, no one will consider my opinion when I am gone.

[KoalaAttack]

ok I just got here, what the hell happened

Neon was hammered for fake claiming doctor.

Why’d we hammer that fast?

She literally asked us to – I thought it was a bluff, tried to call it. I was wrong, which was my bad, and here we are.


Here is the relevant summary for you lfischl:

We'll need five hammers on Neon, so two more. One, if Koala hammers.

Koala actually went back and re-read The President & The Princess as per Bozo's request. Did not find anything besides many layers of WIFOM-like "yeah, could be either world of Mafia team-work or Eden trying to cross-check Neon".

I agree it's a legit and non-trivial possibility Princess Neon is telling the truth. But I just don't see how we can tell definitively. This is frustrating, because I still have a bunch of suspects, and we are quickly running out of MKs, but it is what it is. I agree with everyone who said we need the data from this flip to move forward.

So... Koala was about to vote to end. But then Koala got distracted trying to make sense of the newest round of Chaqa-trolling and claiming to take up the torch from President Eden.

Do the end vote

And also this:

Chaqa is town. Don't kill Chaqa.

Also if 1 more person end votes on me I'll self hammer

OK, I have to now.

##END

Glgl town

It's Bozo +1 of lfiscl Koala TFB BK and Bona

I think lfischl but that's weak

##VOTE Princess Neon

##END

Though I'm not sure why I am helping someone who I heavily Suspect for lurking TBH... but I'll assume the benefit of the doubt that you are very busy IRL:

[KoalaAttack]

Question for the GM:

When the hammer occurs, does every player receive notifications in PMs?


The reason I'm asking is this...

Final Vote Count:
Princess Neon (5) Bonatogether*, KoalaAttack*, BK3K*, Chaqa*, Princess Neon*
lfischl (1) TheFlyingBoat

My Random Fact for the evening: Teething toddlers are fucking awful to deal with.

Princess Neon HAS DIED! She was a Vanilla Town!

Night 5 Has Begun - You may now post.

ok I just got here, what the hell happened

So, the elusive lfischl suddenly appears 32 minutes after the day ends. Maybe it's just a coincidence. Or maybe the Mafia Chat Discord notifications are exploding? A bit Suspicions, this.

[KoalaAttack]

Anyway, I'm going to sleep on this. I will probably not post more thoughts until close to the end of the night, to avoid showing my hand to the Mafia.

Unless everyone tells me that hammering the Night is a good idea and I should do it? For now I'm assuming it's a bad idea.

[KoalaAttack]

Question for the GM:
When the hammer occurs, does every player receive notifications in PMs?
<snip>

Never mind, I just checked my own PMs and I see no notification. That answers that.


So, the elusive lfischl suddenly appears 32 minutes after the day ends. Maybe it's just a coincidence. Or maybe the Mafia Chat Discord notifications are exploding? A bit Suspicions, this.
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[KoalaAttack]

Why do you exclude tfb?

It would be easy to see the momentum and stay away from it

Why hammer as town? What did it accomplish?

We now spend this time speculating on who scum is knowing Neon was town, instead of having to consider both options.

Wait, we get more time for the night? This isn't like the Diplomacy Ready button?

[Chaqa]

Why hammer as town? What did it accomplish?

We now spend this time speculating on who scum is knowing Neon was town, instead of having to consider both options.

We could have taken more time to consider if we needed to policy Neon.

I wouldn't have changed my mind. It's why I hammered.

Personally, I am also down to hammer Lfischl tomorrow, but I'm sure i'm a radical on that front.

[lfischl]

Question for the GM:
When the hammer occurs, does every player receive notifications in PMs?
<snip>

Never mind, I just checked my own PMs and I see no notification. That answers that.


So, the elusive lfischl suddenly appears 32 minutes after the day ends. Maybe it's just a coincidence. Or maybe the Mafia Chat Discord notifications are exploding? A bit Suspicions, this.

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I had thing for school that I wasn't going to be on from 1-6(PST) then I went home and did something with fam and checked after that. I didn't expect ya'll to hammer in 7 hours

[bozotheclown]

We now spend this time speculating on who scum is knowing Neon was town, instead of having to consider both options.

We could have taken more time to consider if we needed to policy Neon.

I wouldn't have changed my mind. It's why I hammered.

Personally, I am also down to hammer Lfischl tomorrow, but I'm sure i'm a radical on that front.

You said this D4, why did you not consider this D5:

@Eden: you actually believe Neon?

Why would anyone claim there. It's worse than worcej's claims.

Who cares why anyone would claim there? Look at the surrounding corroborating evidence.

It's just as easily explained by someone thinking mafia would expect Flum to be protected and deciding to self-protect N1, which could be true of literally any one of us. And given the rise of town fakeclaims, if I were the doctor I might not be so quick to assume CCing nets a scum when Neon could be town trying to shake Swordsman's stink.

[bozotheclown]

Question for the GM:
When the hammer occurs, does every player receive notifications in PMs?
<snip>

Never mind, I just checked my own PMs and I see no notification. That answers that.


So, the elusive lfischl suddenly appears 32 minutes after the day ends. Maybe it's just a coincidence. Or maybe the Mafia Chat Discord notifications are exploding? A bit Suspicions, this.

I had thing for school that I wasn't going to be on from 1-6(PST) then I went home and did something with fam and checked after that. I didn't expect ya'll to hammer in 7 hours
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What made you suspect PE D2 enough that you told damo you would vote for him, and what changed your mind about PE?