Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[xorxes]

Sigh. Some of Dargo's crumbs make some sense. I'm a bit confused similar to Jamie though. I guess wait and see?

They do? Enough for scum to figure out?

[bo_sox48]

They’ve figured out Vecna and damo

[Chaqa]

Sigh. Some of Dargo's crumbs make some sense. I'm a bit confused similar to Jamie though. I guess wait and see?

They do? Enough for scum to figure out?

Normally I'd say no, but Vecna got sniped N1 and Damos got hit last night.

I'm not sure whether this is all coincidence or skill.

[xorxes]

God,what a hellish weekend.
@brain, earlier I asked you about your comment concerning emc ‘needing to get settled.’ Xorxes took that as an investigative question about you. I meant it otherwise. Is it possible to go back to your emc thoughts (and your voting on D1?)

OK, I buy this as a crumb.

[xorxes]

Sigh. Some of Dargo's crumbs make some sense. I'm a bit confused similar to Jamie though. I guess wait and see?

They do? Enough for scum to figure out?

Normally I'd say no, but Vecna got sniped N1 and Damos got hit last night.

I'm not sure whether this is all coincidence or skill.

It was patently obvious that damo was either Tracker or Doc, I don't think that part required that much skill.

[xorxes]

God,what a hellish weekend.
@brain, earlier I asked you about your comment concerning emc ‘needing to get settled.’ Xorxes took that as an investigative question about you. I meant it otherwise. Is it possible to go back to your emc thoughts (and your voting on D1?)

OK, I buy this as a crumb.

But it was N2, way too late for much validity. They had two nights of planning who would claim what by then.

[xorxes]

@Chaqa, I will again defer to Tom on this, but I think you need to tell us who your loved one is.

I don't understand why bozo hasn't been hounding you about this if he scumreads you as much as he says he does.

[Chaqa]

I thought it was obvious. I laid it on thick on Day 1 not realizing how the claims in this would work out as not needing as much crumbing.

I'll wait for the town clears to explicitly ask me but if they want to know I'll say.

[xorxes]

I thought it was obvious. I laid it on thick on Day 1 not realizing how the claims in this would work out as not needing as much crumbing.

I'll wait for the town clears to explicitly ask me but if they want to know I'll say.

I admit I didn't even try to find clues, because your claim was completely believable to me.

[EspressoPatronum]

Comparing our Behaviour
Look at Dargo's ISO. No mention of Percy (his claimed tracker target) in D3 or N3. Tracker!Dargo should have been signalling his reads to the town in case he died. He even had a perfect opportunity to disguise his read in the Tracker smokescreen I started on D3.

Now look at my ISO. I tracked xorxes and I'm trying to convey that I think xorxes is more town, but then I scale it up to make the smokescreen to explicitly write out my track. Nobody else participated in it the smokescreen.

Then there's D4. Believe me about work or not, but I claimed as soon as I could verify that the presence or non-presence of a RB wouldn't change the scum reaction to my read. I was getting townread the previous night (someone even asked me and flash or food about what I thought about being on neither bozo or xorxes' scumteam) and had 0 reason to put myself in a counterclaim situation.

I wrote out the reasons for my reads and how I thought they impacted the information state of the town.

Scum Theatre
Some of you raise a valid concern about scum v scum theatre... I don't think there's anything more I can do to prove my claim is genuine, so I'll instead invite you to look at how I've been playing and how I've played in past games.

In m46 when I was on the block, I wrote out an essay about how I approach the game. In that essay, I believe I mentioned my interest in the "game within the game" of town PRs vs scum PRs. As I hope you will see from my play this game, I have been focused on interactions between PRs and how I think town can maximize its chances of using its PRs. I do this most games, but my role as the tracker (and after a short while, the only apparent investigative left in the early-game bracket) has caused me to focus more on the mechanics of the game than reads.

I'll be checking in over the next few hours to answer any questions.

[xorxes]

Update after Tracker claims:

Roles left to claim:
9. Crayfish – bulletproof (turn 1)
12. Naked mole rat – Vanilla
13. Pangolin – Vanilla
15. Pallas Cat – Divine presence [N1]
16. Okapi – Vanilla
17. Tortoise – Absorber (single use)
18. Anglerfish - Oracle
21. Harpy Eagle – Vanilla

People left to claim:
Bozotheclown
Bo_sox48
Flash2015
Foodcoats
Jamiet
Worcej

If it was my decision, I would ask them to claim in this order:

1 Bozotheclown
2 Bo_sox48
3 Flash2015
4 Jamiet
5 Foodcoats
6 Worcej

[Tom Bombadil]

Sorry. Catching up - I’ll post more when I can, and when I have more to think.

But on the surface I think EP claim is likely true (oddly the fact that he said he did not crumb before it was even asked seems towny to me)

I do not know why darg counterclaimed, but I think he was scared because he knew the clears such as myself were going to push his wagon hard today.

I do not think both are scum, though I do think it is a non-zero possibility

[Tom Bombadil]

Chaqa and xorx are near townclears in my eyes btw

[Tom Bombadil]

Everyone could vote for themselves and then have 2 people on who clears direct (such as darg) to avoid more risk than necessary if target is cow. This is subject to scum tampering though, which makes me nervous close to MYLO

[EspressoPatronum]

Everyone could vote for themselves and then have 2 people on who clears direct (such as darg) to avoid more risk than necessary if target is cow. This is subject to scum tampering though, which makes me nervous close to MYLO

And if scum tamper with it, we'll have to lynch dargo the next day anyway.

I say we put as few ppl on dargo as possible to guarantee no last-minute scum tampering + make sure some of the obvious disease targets aren't voting him.

[dargorygel]

I'll be home tomorrow, and on my computer instead of my dying phone. The timing of this stinks... sorry town.

I've been thinking about why scum would fake... and I am at two possibilities. First, maybe they thought there WAS no tracker. When no one claimed for a few hours after the start of this day, they decided to claim to clear one of them... or two.

Second, maybe they were PR hunting. They had been very successful getting our PR's. And this is a way to get rid of another. They didn't have to know it was me (although they might have guessed at my rotten crumbs,) but could have figured the tracker would counter their fake.

So now they have another PR.

[dargorygel]

Home. And should go to bed.

But I am confused.

Forget my ideas of what scum might be doing.

I have NO idea.

Why would espresso fakeclaim a role that has NO POWER left??

[dargorygel]

I can't figure out what it gains them.

I can't make any sense of it.

It is either the worst mistake EVER in mafia... or some master plot.

AND I CAN'T SEE what it is!!

[dargorygel]

I mean... really.

But I DO know one thing.

[dargorygel]

I am the tracker.


And I deduce another freaking thing.

If YOU were on this scum team that has done EVERYTIHNG right.
Every lynch a mislynch. ANd SOME of us figuring or fearing that theer has not been a major wagon with scum on it.

AND THEY HIT PR's EVERY TIME THEY NK.