Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[damo666]

My vote order

ghug
Food
Chaqa

swap you for food and we agree!

I'm obviously town

[foodcoats]

Hey Bunny what’s your case on damo?

Here's my progression from D2 where he was a solid town:

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?user=Bunn*&word=damo*&part=d2&g=86

then started making the case a bit after Ham flipped:

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?user=Bunn*&word=damo*&part=n2&g=86

Then I forgot and went back to towning him d3 until I kept reading again and got suss:

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?user=Bunn*&word=damo*&part=d3&g=86

Okay I’ll endeavour to read this a bit later this morning, thank you.

[foodcoats]

I think Food is the logical next vote.

food town.

hey @food, why you voting bozo?

Just haven’t moved it yet.

[foodcoats]

I think Food is the logical next vote.

Why do you think that?

You're the last remaining person who did not vote Sweet.

Ah, that’s interesting. He was bussed. This reinforces the cases made against ghug I think.

##VOTE ghug

[foodcoats]

??

So your view is:

Town:

everyone but ghug

Scum:

ghug

And if ghug flips town your forfeit?

I, on the other hand, am seeing almost everyone as scum. I don't see how townies wouldn't share that perspective. Going back to chaqa's suggestion maks sense. But I am leaning this way;

##vote frog

What makes you think frog is the most likely?

[foodcoats]

Damo seems least likely to be mafia to me.

I would more believe Frog or Just than him

Who are your townreads? Who will you pay off a win to?

Besides Darg+Bozo, I townread you and ghug rather strongly, and Damo logically should be town.

What are the main reasons you townread ghug?

[damo666]

Why do you think that?

You're the last remaining person who did not vote Sweet.

Ah, that’s interesting. He was bussed. This reinforces the cases made against ghug I think.

##VOTE ghug

Surely you had realised that?

[dargorygel]

So your view is:

Town:

everyone but ghug

Scum:

ghug

And if ghug flips town your forfeit?

I, on the other hand, am seeing almost everyone as scum. I don't see how townies wouldn't share that perspective. Going back to chaqa's suggestion maks sense. But I am leaning this way;

##vote frog

What makes you think frog is the most likely?

I have felt most of his 'drives' have been disengenous.

I have been looking at ghug already (maybe showing my lack of 'all in' with froggy.)

We know he is very good at this game. Which makes him valuable when he is in endgame. But as I read over his conversations with me, I am beginning to see what might be almost-like-buddying. "Almost" because it isn't strong. Just nudges.

Has anyone else noticed this, themselves? (Someone mentioned this a while ago, but take a look and see if he has been lightly touching positive-triggers for YOU.)

[Chaqa]

Who are your townreads? Who will you pay off a win to?

Besides Darg+Bozo, I townread you and ghug rather strongly, and Damo logically should be town.

What are the main reasons you townread ghug?

Vibes

[dargorygel]

Add damo to my townie list... maybe in place of ghug?

In my mind I am seeing these pairings:

it is froggy or ghug

it is damo or food

it is chaqa or ghug.

These pairings make me on the edge of switching to ghug.

[dargorygel]

maybe not chaqa- ghug... I am not sure who chaqa pairs up with in my mind.

[dargorygel]

maybe not chaqa- ghug... I am not sure who chaqa pairs up with in my mind.

I suppose I might have been pairing them because they are of similar "skill."

These pairing, btw, are not mechanical... they are folk I would like to see on the peterbot as our two wagons.

[Chaqa]

maybe not chaqa- ghug... I am not sure who chaqa pairs up with in my mind.

Why are you making pairs at all?

[Chaqa]

I got ninja’d

[dargorygel]

@ghug
While I despise this line of thought/argument (meta)...

Do you recall a conversation we had about posting statistics?

[foodcoats]

I think Food is the logical next vote.

Nah

I'm not convinced there was a busser, but Frog is an unknown in this meta so maybe he could be.

If you want to do the brain/bozo thing you can go look at my scum games where I never bus.

[dargorygel]

maybe not chaqa- ghug... I am not sure who chaqa pairs up with in my mind.

Why are you making pairs at all?

I shouldn't have called them 'pairings.'
They are contrasts.... I am starting to see folk as "this one OR this one" is scum.

Bad terminology. Sorry

[dargorygel]

I got ninja’d

?

[BunnyGo]

maybe not chaqa- ghug... I am not sure who chaqa pairs up with in my mind.

only 1 scum left

does that change your readings?

[foodcoats]

That would be an insane play to throw my godfather under the bus like that..insanely stupid.

I’ve recently re read both Frog and Will’s D1 and I think anyone considering Frog should compare the two.

Frog literally shouted at everyone to get on the wagon. He didn’t just vote, he pushed and accelerated the wagon.

Conversely, Will was sitting alone on sweet with ten minutes to go when the wagon suddenly picked up. He didn’t say anything in that time. I could see him “open wolfing” as brain suggested, trying to get a cop scan on sweet, but then getting stuck on his wagon when it took off.

Will is still not the top scumread for me but Will is much, much more likely to be scum than Frog.