Mafia round 93: hot potato! (game thread)

[yavuzovic]

I dunno but I just have this like

Cognitive dissonance every time I see yavus posts

I just don’t scumread the guy. He’s authentic

Also can someone write down where the SP had been? I’m too busy to check

Are you trying to buddy me? Even I would scumread myself at this point.

[DreamTrawler]

4 different people asking about the sweet potato… its whereabouts are already revealed. Lowkey feels like scum panicking

I don't get if you are just playing dumb or if you have an agenda, but we didn't knew who had SP on D4 and N4 and I see no reason for town not wanting to disclose this information.

By the way, I think Chaqa is the best kill today as I don't see any reason to town read him. Yav at this point is tied with Kak on second place.

##vote Chaqa

Okay I believe it's gone then. There is no possibility that it stayed among scum for 2 phases. I'll go ##vote bo_sox48

Why and how do you believe it was consumed?

[bo_sox48]

4 different people asking about the sweet potato… its whereabouts are already revealed. Lowkey feels like scum panicking

I don't get if you are just playing dumb or if you have an agenda, but we didn't knew who had SP on D4 and N4 and I see no reason for town not wanting to disclose this information.

By the way, I think Chaqa is the best kill today as I don't see any reason to town read him. Yav at this point is tied with Kak on second place.

##vote Chaqa

Okay I believe it's gone then. There is no possibility that it stayed among scum for 2 phases. I'll go ##vote bo_sox48

To be clear, it is easier for you to believe that the sweet potato is gone and that I am claiming it for absolutely no reason than it is for you to believe that it was given to me? So much easier that you are willing to waste your vote when it actually has zero chance of doing anything to me?

[yavuzovic]

I don't get if you are just playing dumb or if you have an agenda, but we didn't knew who had SP on D4 and N4 and I see no reason for town not wanting to disclose this information.

By the way, I think Chaqa is the best kill today as I don't see any reason to town read him. Yav at this point is tied with Kak on second place.

##vote Chaqa

Okay I believe it's gone then. There is no possibility that it stayed among scum for 2 phases. I'll go ##vote bo_sox48

Why and how do you believe it was consumed?

Unless its way to today is explained, a potato explosion, or a nightkill could have hit it. We're never informed whether death comes from potatoes or night kill

[yavuzovic]

I don't get if you are just playing dumb or if you have an agenda, but we didn't knew who had SP on D4 and N4 and I see no reason for town not wanting to disclose this information.

By the way, I think Chaqa is the best kill today as I don't see any reason to town read him. Yav at this point is tied with Kak on second place.

##vote Chaqa

Okay I believe it's gone then. There is no possibility that it stayed among scum for 2 phases. I'll go ##vote bo_sox48

To be clear, it is easier for you to believe that the sweet potato is gone and that I am claiming it for absolutely no reason than it is for you to believe that it was given to me? So much easier that you are willing to waste your vote when it actually has zero chance of doing anything to me?

You are a scum trying to save yourself, which is the most believable theory? If you were town, I would expect you to keep this information until the EoD, and not claim if you're not set to be the kill.

[bo_sox48]

Well that is clearly not your actual explanation because you voted for me before I claimed, but that’s fine. As I explained to your deaf ears, I prefer not to waste an entire day away keeping information from everyone here that would influence their choices today, but instead of biding by that philosophy you continue to waste your day away anyway. I cannot see you doing that as town - no town in their right mind is going to join you and either waste their vote on someone who cannot die or, if enough idiots came together, destroy an extremely valuable townsided mechanic, prevent any daykill from taking place at all, and still waste their vote.

The reasonable thing for town to do with the information I appropriately provided is to say oh, okay, we can look back his way tomorrow but there’s better things to do today with more upside. Instead, you’re taking any excuse you can get to waste your vote today because you just bussed once and don’t think you can afford to do it again. Which tells me that your partner is probably facing pressure!

If you haven’t been convinced of this, please vote to hammer me so that I no longer feel the need to waste what little energy I have for this game dealing with such stupidity and I’ll do the same for you in return.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

hello
looks like I'm going to miss EoD
fortunately, nobody's voting me so I don't have to loudly admit to lying in order to avoid dying while not holding the rotten potato
the leading wagon is chaqa which...could very well be a maf
I have some potato analysis to do but for now:
PoE is chaqa, yavuzovic, rdr
so, don't start any flashwagons I guess?
Dip out
(or so he claims...)

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

also to avoid unnecessary confusion I should probably out that I had the SP D4
not sure why dream wants me to claim I had it n4 but as he knows, I didn't
I'll explain during n5

[Chaqa]

It's incredibly obvious to me that Control V was bussed on Day 4. No one else sees that? Super easy to push out a low-poster to gain cred.

I think we should try to figure out which of Will, Dream, yavu, and bo_sox seems most scummy.

[Chaqa]

Some thoughts reviewing earlier days:

1. On Day 1, Control parked a vote on Dream and then placed an invalid vote on mimi. There's also some really inconsistent back and forth on his Dream read (see http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?user=Control&part=n1-&g=93 and search for Dream) but I'm not yet sure it's scummy.

2. On Day 2, Bozo stayed parked on Dip. The major back and forth this day was between Red and Damo, and since we now know that both were town, I think mafia was particularly uncaring between these two; Bozo's parked vote and Control flipping back and forth between them is notable. Other mafia likely were more or less noncommittal in these wagons.

3. On Day 3, Bozo was voting Dip and then Will, while Control voted Damo. I argue that if Will or kak was scum, these votes would not make sense, especially if Kak is scum, since then Bozo's last vote and post, 2 hours out from EoD, would have been risky. This makes me think Kak is pretty solidly town.

4. Earlier in Day 3, Bozo was up with only 3 votes, and those votes were from Dip, Will, and Kak. One suspicious thing here is Will moving his vote from Bozo to no-kill; is this a way to lower the intensity on Bozo's wagon and push Kak ahead? To me, this completely kills any chance of a Will-Kak scum pair.

5. Day 4 was all about Control vs. Kak. If a bus happened here, bo_sox looks the worst, with it possible that Will or yavu was also bussing from earlier on. The other option would be that mafia were voting elsewhere, but that would implicate only myself and Dip, and I know I'm town, and Dip seems likely town, so I'm not sure I believe this. I think mafia were bussing hard this day.

So on the balance, I think I'd rank things as such:

Most Town
Chaqa
Kakarroto
DiplomacyandWarfare
JustAGuyNamedWill

--- Would vote below this line today ---

DreamTrawler
bo_sox48
rdrivera2005
yavuzovic

Least Town

[DreamTrawler]

1) Sweet Potato is still in the game, won’t elaborate further.

2) Who has the Couch Potato? We don’t want any last minute ties.

3) Who currently has a Hot Potato? I have one, Kaka has one, Yavu has one, Dip has one. Anyone else?

[Chaqa]

1) Sweet Potato is still in the game, won’t elaborate further.

2) Who has the Couch Potato? We don’t want any last minute ties.

3) Who currently has a Hot Potato? I have one, Kaka has one, Yavu has one, Dip has one. Anyone else?

I have one

[Spartaculous]

GM POST

Vote count 5.3

Chaqa (3): rdrivera2005, bo_sox48, JustAGuyNamedWill
yavuzovic (2): DreamTrawler, DiplomacyandWarfare
rdrivera2005 (1): Kakarroto
bo_sox48 (1): yavuzovic

Chaqa is about to get a fork stuck in him. He also must vote.

About 6.5 hours remain in the phase.

[DreamTrawler]

Can everyone say who they are throwing HP to? I think it’s very sus that Yavu gave it to me with no inkling of suspecting me. Similarly, why does Dip have one?

[DreamTrawler]

Man the thread went quiet over the weekend huh?

[Chaqa]

Man the thread went quiet over the weekend huh?

Holiday weekend combined with fewer people and lots of low posters

[yavuzovic]

It's almost like you can guess who doesn't have a holiday :/

[DreamTrawler]

Can everyone say who they are throwing HP to? I think it’s very sus that Yavu gave it to me with no inkling of suspecting me. Similarly, why does Dip have one?

I'm throwing to Yavuzovic with backup of Rdrivera.

[Spartaculous]

GM POST

Ethiopian cuisine is currently my favorite type. I just found this sweet potato stew recipe. I might have to make it with my remaining sweet potatoes:

Ethiopian Sweet Potato & Lentil Wat Recipe

Sweet Potato & Lentil Wat Recipe
2 sweet potatoes (about 600g), scrubbed and cut into 1-2 cm chunks
2 Tbsp coconut oil (or olive oil)
1 onion, finely chopped
3 cloves garlic, finely chopped
1 Tbsp minced ginger
1 Tbsp Berbere spice mix (see link for instructions)
1 cup dried yellow lentils (or split peas)
1 litre veg stock
salt & black pepper
1/4 cabbage (250 g), shredded
1 large tomato, roughly chopped
a squeeze of lemon juice
fresh coriander to serve

In a large saucepan, heat the oil over a medium heat and cook the onions, with a pinch of salt, for about 4 minutes until translucent. Then add the garlic and ginger and cook for a minute or two more. If it gets dry add a little splash of stock. Add the 1 tbsp Berbere spice mix, cabbage, tomato and season with salt & black pepper.

Add the lentils, sweet potatoes and veg stock, bring to the boil then lower the heat and simmer, partially covered, for 20-25 minutes until the sweet potato is soft and the lentils are cooked. Add a squeeze of lemon juice and cook for 5 minutes more with the lid off. Add the fresh coriander just before serving and check seasoning.

From: https://foodblogandthedog.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/ethiopian-sweet-potato-and-lentil-wat-with-injera-flatbread/

[rdrivera2005]

Can everyone say who they are throwing HP to? I think it’s very sus that Yavu gave it to me with no inkling of suspecting me. Similarly, why does Dip have one?

I threw mine to Chaqa last night, don't have one today.