MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[FlaviusAetius]

Also a vote for yavu is a great vote, and I fail to see why you dont like people voting for yavu @bozo

I did not say I don't like people voting for yavuzovic, yavuzovic may very well be scum also. However, I think BionicMole is more likely to be the last Moriarty, and getting rid of the last Moriarty first will eliminate a potential NK. I do not know if we can afford 3 NKs tonight.

I actually think yavu is the last Moriarty member.

[bozotheclown]

Even if we do not mislynch, we could still lose with worse case NKs if the next 2 lynches are team 2 mafia:

D5: 9-3-1-1, lynch team 2 mafia
N5: 3 town NKed
D6: 6-2-1-1, lynch team 2 mafia
N6: 3 town NKed
D7: 3-1-1-1, lynch team 1 mafia
N7: 2 town NKed
D8: 1-1-1, lynch team 2 mafia or SK
N8: 1 town NKed
town loses

This is why we need to prioritize lynching the last Moriarty mafia or the SK, but identifying the SK will be more difficult.

[bozotheclown]

I dont understand the Bionic case, its on votes that make sense, besides his Computer_Genius vote, but then again lots of people did that, and they simply shouldnt have, its a thing against him, just cant be the ENTIRE thing against,

on the other hand the case against yavu is much more thorough and I will be giving it now

Besides BionicMole's voting, it is based on how rdrivera interacted with everyone who could potentially be his missing teammate.

how about the people he DIDNT interact with?

The reason to suspect BionicMole is because rdrivera did not interact with him.

[bozotheclown]

Thissss seems mighty convenient Bozo is parroting everything Xorxes said when xorxes is dead

I believe xorxes was correct about BionicMole.

You believe he is correct, when he is dead. When he's a live, he's wrong, or to be ignored? amirite?

I agreed with the reasons xorxes suspected BionicMole on D4, and nothing has happened to change my mind.

[bozotheclown]

Also a vote for yavu is a great vote, and I fail to see why you dont like people voting for yavu @bozo

I did not say I don't like people voting for yavuzovic, yavuzovic may very well be scum also. However, I think BionicMole is more likely to be the last Moriarty, and getting rid of the last Moriarty first will eliminate a potential NK. I do not know if we can afford 3 NKs tonight.

I actually think yavu is the last Moriarty member.

OK, that is possible, and a good reason to be voting for him today, but I think BionicMole is more likely.

[bozotheclown]

on night 3, he thinks kitsune is the last moriarty member, still no comments on rdrivera, or anything abut the day before, he acts like it never even happened

he doesnt push kitsune though and just plays defense for why he and tom arent teammates(the relationship is there ngl)

at the end of day 4 this is what he says;
Chaqa can be town,
Kitsune can be town as well

But I prefer active ones (as long as it's not spamming the thread)
##vote Kitsune

5 Bio 3 Kit 3 Cha 2 Fla

These were the candidates at the time, why wouldnt he vote for Bionic?
Bionic and him arent teammates thats for sure, because Bionic voted for Computer_Genius
Makes me think him and Chaqa are teamed, obviously not true

To me it seems yavu is indifferent he literally doesnt care who gets lynched, thats why he he just goes with the flow and votes whoever, he doesnt push anyone

Also a few days before this he literally thought Kitsune was the LAST MEMBER OF MORIARTY, now he thinks Kitsune is town?
He doesnt even push Kitsune by the way

While rereading,
I suck, I really. Sorry, I'm not making original ideas but wandering around and making offensive posts. I would lynch myself. In the other hand, I weigh the ideas in my head, don't worry about it.
##unvote

This is basically how yavu has been acting all game, 'oh im so bad, but dont lynch me its ok guys' trying to get ahead of all the bad things he's done? probably. he's a lone.


I didn't like this wagon to grow that fast :/

-->he then proceeds to begin walking it back and hoping kitsune is scum
if you are voting for someone, you think their scum, you shouldnt be happy it grew fast, not worried, but you know whats funny you made the accusation that Kitsune is the last moriarty member, but you do not push her throughout the entire day, then 12 mintues at EoD you come mozying on it and just vote her...

By the way, you unvoted by quoting yavuzovic the way you did here.

It sounds like you are making a case for yavuzovic as the SK. I consider yavuzovic to be a SK suspect for his question about the missing VT role PM. Also, I think it would explain why Computer_Genius and bo_sox were apparently uninterested in the role.

[e.m.c^42]

I feel like pulling a worcej.

if more scum reads have been town, and town reads more scum, then obviously to switch would produce more accurate results.

so flav kale bio kinda-bozo-yav would be scum

vec cmd pc kinda-bozo-yav town

...that doesn't feel better though lol

[Vecna]

why are you so wishy washy with your reads and pushes emc? Are you afraid to eat a bullet at night or something?

[CmdrLikely]

##vote CMDR

ND, help me out here. You do this every fraking day. You're just parking your vote on someone that doesn't matter. Yes, yes I get it I'm supposed to defend myself. Frankly it is you, sir, that owes an explanation. How is this post helping town?

[yavuzovic]

Apologies everyone, I was very busy yesterday, and had a very little time to take a look this morning, but I decided to leave it to evening because I didn't want to reply to you before catching up.

RIP Chaqa and Xorxes, xorxes was doing well.

I cant wait to hear why those voting for me are voting for me.

[yavuzovic]

Purplecrow and Flavius, you voted for me right after the EoN? Why? If you are doing this because Chaqa scumread me before he died, I also remind you that xorxes townread me. But this isn't my point. What is the reason behind that you voted for me that early? Poking me for being absent?

[yavuzovic]

As far as I see from peterbot, flav accidentally unvoted - because of a mistake he made when quoting.
Therefore I count my wagon 4

[Temasek22]

Even if we do not mislynch, we could still lose with worse case NKs if the next 2 lynches are team 2 mafia:

D5: 9-3-1-1, lynch team 2 mafia
N5: 3 town NKed
D6: 6-2-1-1, lynch team 2 mafia
N6: 3 town NKed
D7: 3-1-1-1, lynch team 1 mafia
N7: 2 town NKed
D8: 1-1-1, lynch team 2 mafia or SK
N8: 1 town NKed
town loses

This is why we need to prioritize lynching the last Moriarty mafia or the SK, but identifying the SK will be more difficult.

I assume you think Bionic is the last Moriathy mafia based on your vote?

[Temasek22]

Apologies everyone, I was very busy yesterday, and had a very little time to take a look this morning, but I decided to leave it to evening because I didn't want to reply to you before catching up.

RIP Chaqa and Xorxes, xorxes was doing well.

I cant wait to hear why those voting for me are voting for me.

Their main reason was the wagon on inactive Computer Genius is predominantly town, I guess

[yavuzovic]

Should we consider now lynching ND? Tomorrow night Hyde will strike.

I actually like chaqa's pages. But do these last two deaths give us any adjustments?

Hyde is more useful than ever. Now it has a bigger likelihood that he hits a scum.

[yavuzovic]

##vote dargo
If DARGORYGEL doesn't roll madia at the end, seeing how willing he is to distract, I can promise to stay away from the following mafia game. Even if I can't talk that sure about this, I also think that Flav and he are scummates.

[yavuzovic]

Maybe I'm late for the claim, but I'm just a lady walking in the street. I have no relation with those crimes.

[yavuzovic]

That was really smart of Chippie, and should be a rule from now on to not do that, but it doesnt violate the spirit of the game whatsoever, and Im still very upset people dont include ChippieRock in games

F

Only point I agree with Flav, they even banned sending him PMs

[yavuzovic]

Good morning, dear players of webdiplomacy.
After some unfortunate events, I know that I disappeared for some time.

Now, I don't see the role PM for VT role in the starting post.

If someone tell me what information we have so far it would be great and a quick summary of the past phases would make me thankful.

why does it matter if you see the role PM for it or not?
why would this be yavu's FIRST post ever

Night 2 he gets grilled for getting subbed in, easy to explain it away by saying what happened, NAI imo

you know actually I've been going over his posts, and I dont see much Day 3...
I mean he didnt vote for rdrivera, even when the wagon was picking up steam, infact he had nothing to say about it whatsoever
makes me wonder why he didnt move to the wagon that was TIED with him but instead stick on his solo wagon, just really odd
like no defense for rdrivera, no attacking rdrivera, he literally just ignored the person who was tied with him. why?

My question about VT PM in the first post I made doesn't only say that I'm town, it screams that! Pf course you only see what you wsnt to see.

Did I have to vote for rivera? Would I vote for anyone whom I believe town? I voted for the person that I believe is scum, so stop judging me of this. If I was scum with rivera, I would definitely vote for him. In this situation, it's more town indicative. If we were mafia scummates and I still didn't vote for him; he would look suspicious if I die, I would look suspicious if he died (so did I)

[yavuzovic]

-->he then proceeds to begin walking it back and hoping kitsune is scum
if you are voting for someone, you think their scum, you shouldnt be happy it grew fast, not worried, but you know whats funny you made the accusation that Kitsune is the last moriarty member, but you do not push her throughout the entire day, then 12 mintues at EoD you come mozying on it and just vote her...

Randomly organizated carbon molecules have better logic than you.
I did believe that Kitsune was a scum, specifically the last Moriarty scum, until she flipped. What I complained there was that the wagon really grew fast. No town would be happy of this. It was suspicious, although I didn't move my vote. A natural town wagon can grow fast too, but this could mean mafia joined the wagon.