M80 Game Thread

[Bonatogether]

i don't understand why dousing gets so much brainspace in the hour or so before i come in

[Kakarroto]

Did you forget that you claimed a PR and roasted Bunny for outing you?

You can't be outed again. So it doesn't matter if I pressure you to use your powers. Put up or get chopped.

And if you fakeclaimed...that's on you.

No, I am just saying your demands are either intentionally misguided or you’re delusional on how this is going to play out.

I think the idea that you are town and fakeclaimed PR under pressure from Bunny is less likely than you being scum and fakeclaiming PR... (Or am I misreading Pyxxy?)

hmmm ...

say what you will, fox was at least consistent with the idea that worcej fakeclaimed

[Bonatogether]

im calling cap right now

I was in the thread from 10pm to 2am my time last night

this bitch was lurking in spurts

no fucking way he didn’t know what was happening

And he just happens to turn up 1 hour before the EOD he apparently didn't know about.

i checked the bot for the vote count because i was going to catch up (like i said)

mfw

[Bonatogether]

i'm losing iq points reading the reactions to the undo of the unclaim

you’re so fucking mad that I’m not a viable miskill for you anymore and I RELISH IT

keep going

i feel like this is just a fundamental misunderstanding of how i play scum

i say a lot of things as both alignments but as scum i keep things back

i NEVER (i think. at least it was extremely uncommon) freaked out in thread as scum or got antsy in thread when we were together and you should know this

[Kakarroto]

RIP Bozo.

Pyxxy looks like he town-slipped, yes. And I think he was too earnest in defending Dousing to be scum.

I am not sure how much we should actually discuss PR mechanics, but wasting PR powers is also not helpful

and that's probably why they killed pyxxy

now I'm unsure if it was more the slip or the defending, but I'd lean more towards the slip

[President Eden]

Yeah, but it would be quite the mistake to fully clear them if they are a deep wolf.

beancomb oozes town

Yo momma oozes town.

one of us

one of us

[Bonatogether]

then I will accept Bona’s objection as to the online thing

however I still think this is kinda cap. he for sure should be looking over the important shit first.

but it’s immaterial now, as long as he isn’t gonna cc Navigator then we can work Bona out later

you should also know i always catch up sequentially except for the times i realized it was eod and i was on the block

[Kakarroto]

Yeah, I don't actually want to see dousing go today, though I am not thrilled about Bozo either. ##VOTE KAK

this is voted up by bunny (and only bunny)

[President Eden]

i'm losing iq points reading the reactions to the undo of the unclaim

you’re so fucking mad that I’m not a viable miskill for you anymore and I RELISH IT

keep going

i feel like this is just a fundamental misunderstanding of how i play scum

i say a lot of things as both alignments but as scum i keep things back

i NEVER (i think. at least it was extremely uncommon) freaked out in thread as scum or got antsy in thread when we were together and you should know this

i’m not saying you were being emotional about it on the face of your writing, but i could tell how bad you wanted this kill to still work

your posting is a bit better now, but it’s easier to make that happen when you’re late, so shrug

[President Eden]

anyway Dousing said he wasn’t gonna afk and then afkd lol

[Bonatogether]

mechanically i can't find a way eden is scum (after 5 seconds of thinking and having not read the role document tbf) but just from a mental standpoint we're coming at the game from such different angles i'm finding it hard to believe town eden isn't seeing what i'm seeing in some things and i just don't see some things he's talking about at all

[Bonatogether]

hmm, thanks

@everyone I would really appreciate if everyone would put their thoughts to my 'mafia-action'-post (like worcej and eden did), maybe if you are spicy add who you would've scanned N1

thanks in advance!

i didnt read it because i hate mechs

alright, but who would've you scanned if you had a scan? (or considered to scan?)

eden so i could either kill him or get a buddy

[President Eden]

mechanically i can't find a way eden is scum (after 5 seconds of thinking and having not read the role document tbf) but just from a mental standpoint we're coming at the game from such different angles i'm finding it hard to believe town eden isn't seeing what i'm seeing in some things and i just don't see some things he's talking about at all

can you like

give actual examples

[Bonatogether]

I took the 2nd marked part to be a way to try to put suspicion on me without actually saying my name outright.

unless you have a godsolve somewhere he probably didn't care enough to specifically try to get a hit on you

[Kakarroto]

I am catching up on 7 pages, but my immediate reaction is that the Dousing wagon is foolish unless he's done something foolish to deserve it...

hmmm

##CALL GM: what happens if Haze and/or Xcution end on unvote? That used to be disallowed, but I'm not sure if that's still the case.

hmmmmmm

[brainbomb]

From the Maf Chat

Eden: Man this is the worst town ive ever seen.

Worcej: I know. were all fake PR and they still havent counterclaimed

Hamilton Brian: Hey guys, do you wanna try this LSD? I got this from kestas. this is some good shit. the last time I took this half the mods resigned and kestas got cancel cultured

Eden: The LSD didnt cause that, it really happened

Hamilton Brian: I know and it was amazing.

Pyxxy: For legal reasons im not supposed to be in here.

[Kakarroto]

No idea, as it was proverb someone mentioned in (I think) my first game (possibly even in the scum chat). I recall once that ghug (I think?) showed up to a game pretending to be angry that he'd rolled scum, and ended up being town. But that wasn't joking, that was a bit.

Do you have counterexamples?

Im absolutely certain that Town Maniac claimed scum once, that Town Jamie has claimed scum before, and I know for a fact that Town!Me has claimed scum on several occasions. Fluminator has done it before if I recall, in any case, it isnt good play, but it does happen. I would encourage you to read the Bona ISO, and my analysis. And at least do the due diligence on it.

Maniac, Jamie, you, and Flum are not what I would call "average" players.

That said, Bona may very well not be an average player, either, and I did read your ISO on him. I'm willing to move my vote off Bona, but I don't have strong scum reads at this point.

I have a few pages to catch up on, but at this point, I think: Bunny and Worcej are town; damo is probably town; ghug, Jamie, rdr, and brain are all kind of getting a wait-and-see pass for being veterans that I've played with a fair amount; Dousing is lurking, which is not great, but I don't think that warrants a D1 wagon; X and Sweet are probably TvT.

interesting

I'll give Bona a pass today. ##UNVOTE

interesting

When did "towncore" become a thing people do here? I think it's a bad idea and you shouldn't stop assessing someone because you added them to your towncore.

and that kinda sounds like salty mafia seeing town on the right track ...

[sweetandcool]

I took the 2nd marked part to be a way to try to put suspicion on me without actually saying my name outright.

unless you have a godsolve somewhere he probably didn't care enough to specifically try to get a hit on you

I get the impression that people tend to strongly read me one way or the other. I have a couple of detractors, and I've been listed in at least a couple of the "who would you shoot right now" lists.

[damo666]

Agreed. who are your top three scumreads right now besides worcej?

Eden (more and more!), Kak and Bona

i recognize i have a special position here but i think this list might be entirely town

Max of 1 scum in there anyway.

[Kakarroto]

Kidding!

You guys basically had it; I've really liked trying to sit back more and read and think and get a sense of the game. So I challenged myself to not post for at least 24 hours no matter what. Thoughts and back posts in coming.

I really hope it is one, massive post of comments and quotes on anything and everything in the past 59 pages.

does this sound like a mafia annoyed at another mafia for not playing properly (in their eyes)?

I'm not inclined to think Bunny is scum for this (as others pointed out, much better for scum-bunny to keep it quiet and get an easy PR kill). On the other hand, I could see town-Bunny wanting to prove himself by catching scum so badly that he doesn't stop to think about other possibilities.

(I also think there's something like a 10% chance that worcej is scum and faking it here. The fact that he's blown up and claimed PR in similar situations is what makes me think he's town, but it's also the case that he knows this and could try to fake it. WIFOM. But I'm only going to seriously entertain this if he's still around on like Day 4 or something.)

Moving my vote to ##VOTE BONA. Someone once said that only scum joke about being scum.

also fox tried to sell the 'worcej fakeclaimed' story pretty early on ...