MAFIA 51 - LONDON BY GASLIGHT [HIDDEN]

[FlaviusAetius]

Flav, I have a slight problem lol

How much of it is you copy/paste snazzing Chaqa for evidence, and how much is yours?

What? I just went through his entire day and commented on stuff, and when I wanted too, I just brought out what he said specifically and commented specifically on that, it reads how his days is going, in chronological order

[dargorygel]

I had some pronoun trouble,v Flav, while I was reading it. I couldn't tell easily whether you were speaking, or him.

[dargorygel]

I like big wagon swings. It puts people on the spot, rather than allowing them time to craft narratives more carefully

man if EoD was at 7 o'clock not 6 o'clock, I can gurantee you right now Chaqa would be dead

Oh? what do you mean?

[FlaviusAetius]

I like big wagon swings. It puts people on the spot, rather than allowing them time to craft narratives more carefully

man if EoD was at 7 o'clock not 6 o'clock, I can gurantee you right now Chaqa would be dead

Oh? what do you mean?

Well a whole bunch of people didnt vote the Chaqa wagon because they didnt like the people who were on it, if ND or Tom flipped to the wagon, I can guarantee you Chaqa would be dead, because then people would of flipped, I wish people like purple or emc would of went to Chaqa as well, I was so bloody close, then Chaqa had to go jump on Kitsune, smhhh

[FlaviusAetius]

man if EoD was at 7 o'clock not 6 o'clock, I can gurantee you right now Chaqa would be dead

Oh? what do you mean?

Well a whole bunch of people didnt vote the Chaqa wagon because they didnt like the people who were on it, if ND or Tom flipped to the wagon, I can guarantee you Chaqa would be dead, because then people would of flipped, I wish people like purple or emc would of went to Chaqa as well, I was so bloody close, then Chaqa had to go jump on Kitsune, smhhh

then emc had to go jump on Kitsune, smhhhh*

[Chaqa]

In retrospect, we probably shouldn't have lynched her when she wasn't on. Giving people a chance to claim is something good but I really didn't even cross my mind she could be a PR. Happens. I'll be dead soon, but I hope we can sort this all out.

At least there's one more PR (the Urchin) out there who can claim. Gives us another town clear to work with.

[Vecna]

BIONIC IF YOU WANT TO CLAIM DO IT NOW

MY COMPUTER JUST SHUT OFF BTW SO BLOODY GREAT IM ON MOBILE

What a weird post, almost feels like a buddy calling out to rolefish. Bionic was still the leading wagon here.

[Vecna]

Chaqa can be town,
Kitsune can be town as well

But I prefer active ones (as long as it's not spamming the thread)
##vote Kitsune

Why didnt you vote for the leading wagon yavuz? why choose between two people you think were town when there were very viable alternatives?

[xorxes]

From Mafia1 QT:

BionicMole: lol, how on earth did I survive that? Kill xorxes

From Mafia2 QT:

dargo: Can we kill xorxes already, please?
Vecna: It will look suspicious if he's killed before me.
bozo: He knows I'm not a VT, I will be forced to cc the Urchin if he is still alive.
Vecna: All right then. Kill xorxes

From Jack QT:

Flav: I think I will kill someone random just to confuse everyone. Let's see, eenie, meenie, miney, moe, kill xorxes

[xorxes]

@Temasek - I'll swap over to Kitsune if you will to keep this off a tie.

I think Kitsune is a good alternative lynch. BionicMole not claiming a PR makes me suspect he is really a VT.

Why? The last Moriarty had nothing to gain by claiming a PR. At best he postpones his death by doing that, but that is of no use to him. Male VT was basically his only choice if he wants to make it to the end. More interesting is that he had been hinting that a claim was coming but then he claims VT.

[xorxes]

I'm fairly sure Temasek is town, btw.

[bozotheclown]

@Temasek - I'll swap over to Kitsune if you will to keep this off a tie.

I think Kitsune is a good alternative lynch. BionicMole not claiming a PR makes me suspect he is really a VT.

Why? The last Moriarty had nothing to gain by claiming a PR. At best he postpones his death by doing that, but that is of no use to him. Male VT was basically his only choice if he wants to make it to the end. More interesting is that he had been hinting that a claim was coming but then he claims VT.

That is a good point, I did not think of that at the time.

[bozotheclown]

I find it interesting that people are saying that Bionic or Kalel was saved. Kalel never had any momentum whatsoever. Not sure how you draw that conclusion - Bionic was a leading wagon. Much more likely he was saved. If Bionic is scum, I think that highly implicated people pushing the narrative that someone besides Bionic was saved

If Bionic was saved, it would mean our suspicion that he was the last Moriarty mafia was incorrect.

[Vecna]

@Temasek - I'll swap over to Kitsune if you will to keep this off a tie.

I think Kitsune is a good alternative lynch. BionicMole not claiming a PR makes me suspect he is really a VT.

yikes

[Vecna]

Vecna, catch up quickly lol

yeah that never was gonna happen. was at a jim jeffries show last night.

[Vecna]

I think Kalel turns up when it’s safe to post, safe to vote etc. I think he’s around more than he let’s on. I think this calm “reason?” act is even a very careful response to being voted by me for no apparent reason. I’m quite convinced

Did someone confirm whether the quick kitsune sheep was in line with all the spreadsheet nonsense?

This rings pretty true and I feel I have a solid team B shaping up in my head.

[Vecna]

I think Kalel turns up when it’s safe to post, safe to vote etc. I think he’s around more than he let’s on. I think this calm “reason?” act is even a very careful response to being voted by me for no apparent reason. I’m quite convinced

The problem with Kalel is that I have difficulties parsing his "data dump" posts. Can't easily tell if he's just bs'ing stuff on the spot or actually putting thought into it.

The weights are hard for two reasons.

First, from a relationship perspective it's hard to put a weight on an interaction until one of the roles is at least hardclaimed (I'm not good at crumb pick-ups yet). I give + for challenging others, or bringing up a new investigative topic, but pocketing, bussing, etc. are harder to nail-down.

Second, some behaviors (Overposting noise & Claiming you're the cop and you guilty read someone) initially seemed to me to be very scummy. This was reinforced by several people saying 'reaction tests' are worthless. However, with ND and Tom in this game I've seen it work.

Ultimately, the spreadsheet is probably going to be a failure because it's like anonymous gunboat. It's only half the game (or less). But it helps me because it puts my data out there for others to comment on.

This type of posting is so hard for me to gauge on genuineness though. In my head it reads/sounds like an 80s robot reciting the stock market changes or some nonsense like that.

From a town person id expect at least some shit I can identofy with. Does this person play like thia ebery game?

[Vecna]

Really, gang? Actually, I admit that I would have considered a Kit lynch, but I don't think I would have jumped on that wagon.
I'd be interested to analyze after this game is over how many times the wagon changes in the last hour and if that was beneficial for town or for maf...

This is an interesting point. I'm going to go be depressed and follow Flavs advice of no talking.

Tom - I'll probably be on doing some data mining so don't get paranoid.

It really wasnt an interesting point.

The second line at least feels somewhat genuine.

Hey, Kalal, how about you let them spreadsheets be for a while abd just interact normally with people?

[Vecna]

Aww man. After we were doing so well...

RIP Kit, I'm out of words now.

Bionic and Kalel are definitely saved. Might have to vote for them tomorrow

I strongly doubt they were actually saved, this felt more impulsive rather than directed. Shit like this happens nearly every game if people decide to play their prs timidly.

[Vecna]

hah Squigs I see you there, hi Squigs, come back to join us in mafia

if you are Hyde feel free to put me out of my misery

i still hate his fake dude

thats overly harsh