Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[Frogsterking]

I am going to try my best Frog, since there's some suspicion swirling around them.

1) How much time elapsed between your deciding to vote sweet and actually casting the vote?
2) What was your clear-cut 100 proof factor in Sweet's play that informed your decision that they were scum?
3) When you got your PM did you decide to distance or closely buddy your teammates? Which ones?
4) What is your biggest criticism of your D1 play? What was your reaction when Jamie suggested that your reads were coming too early in the game? Did that alter your plans?

This is a very awkwardly phrased post.

"I am going to try my best Frog" what does that mean?

Yeah it was weird. I interpreted it as both being addressed toward and in the spirit of "frog." I think the post was a lashing out against the questions I threw at him during N1; an attempt to demean the process.

[Frogsterking]

Oh thankful there weren't that many posts.

[Frogsterking]

I'd consider switching to Hamilton or a flashwagon on any of you/Frog/damo. Would also vote Vecna or darg, but those aren't my priorities.

I am fairly confident Hamilton is town.

Bozo says that I am town and that ham is town.
And why does scum bozo do this exactly?

Defending ham, pocketing you

[Frogsterking]

Frog is being bizarre

Yes... i voted him at first today. I could go back.
Bunny is a likely third scum, though, too.

The D1 voting might be a conversation between ham and bunny.

That's quite the imagination you have there

[brainbomb]

##vote Ham

that post was bizarre

if sweet only has my vote by the end of the day, I will switch to Ham.

What happened:

##vote Ham

that post was bizarre

##VOTE Ham

Don't really mind his post though.

Ham became a 2 wagon when ghug and damo both went here.

Why Ham specifically?

im ok with Hamiltons wagon

I will not vote Bunny, food, or sweet today.

I'm not really seeing any reason to vote Hamilton either.

This Hamilton wagon out of nowhere feels really wrong.

Chaqa strongly opposes this switcheroo and as a result learning hamiltons tendencies would be worthwhile

[Frogsterking]

No, that ghug should be more suspicious that Hamilton preferred to be the DK over you.

I think it's a plausible explanation but I also got the vibe that Hamilton actually thought Frog was viable, which you seem to disagree with.

Question for you: I was the only one pushing Frog. Do you think Hamilton would pick his teammate's push in that situation?

Not particularly likely, but neither was Hamilton voting to get himself DKed. Frogsterking had no votes and Hamilton voted with 48 second left in D2. Even if Hamilton did not know the vote count, he was told what the wagons were, so why would he think there was a better chance of Frogsterking being the DK than BunnyGo?

Frame job, not paying attention, spite vote or hoping for a flash wagon. I take it you are trying to manufacture a scum read on BunnyGo now?

[brainbomb]

Using peterbot
how many times this game did Hamilton mention chaqa this game?

M86, HamiltonBrian, Chaqa

Copy/paste URL: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?user=HamiltonBrian&word=Chaqa&g=86


0 times
0 quotes
0 posts ever even using chaqas name

Wtf

[brainbomb]

##vote chaqa

Thats good enough for me ham usually stashes one scumbo

[Frogsterking]

Somehow I still suspect Vecna is mafia.

You said he was wrong town last night

Yo

[Frogsterking]

Using peterbot
how many times this game did Hamilton mention chaqa this game?

M86, HamiltonBrian, Chaqa

Copy/paste URL: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?user=HamiltonBrian&word=Chaqa&g=86


0 times
0 quotes
0 posts ever even using chaqas name

Wtf

That is interesting. I thought the bolded sort of implied there were no scum on the sweet wagon:

I'm assuming night ends at 6 pm EST, correct me if I'm wrong please. I'm at work and I've been thinking about the game.

@darg (heart replacement)
@hamilton brian

#1 What do you know about the bussers on the sweet wagon?
#2 Is it possible sweet spewed anything of interest on your respective slots?
#3 Is there anything else you need to tell me about your D1 play?

1) I don't know anything about the bussers on sweet wagon. I don't even know that there are any. I think we can assume there are some; those 7 out of 11 voters suggest to me the odds are pretty good. The last five names are an interesting mix.

2) It's possible but nothing I've picked up on. We seem to have a mutual antipathy toward one another through past games where I deem them scum and vice versa. To my knowledge it's only worked out one time in my favour. I feel like I was willing to give them a little more leash this game.

3) I don't know; what specifically?

@Frogsterking...

Is this a typical playstyle for you? Post the volume you did on D1 but withhold a vote until the last hour?

Do you believe there were bussers on Sweet? Who appears most likely to be that busser, and through what metrics?

This was a way that Hamilton and Bozo worked off each other D2, they both pushed this angle in their own way:

I've just had a lightbulb moment. Jamie can't be scum. He would either have made the effort to be on at EOD or signalled to his teammates his anticipated absence (like Bozo did).

So I now think it's Bozo and Ham with a slight chance of deartgorob.

I will not even contemplate a sweet voter until these 3 are accounted for.

If I was mafia and online at EOD, I would have made sure I was on the sweetandcool wagon considering how D1 had gone. Since I was not online at EOD, I am a reasonable scum suspect, but I think there is a reasonably good chance the mafia were on at EOD and ended where they would want to be. The obvious bussing candidates are Vecna and Chaqa, and maybe the answer is just that simple. Or, we could have a more elaborate bussing scheme like in M84.

Both goons goofed basically and were not even online to prevent their godfather from going over. Since then they have been collaborating to tinfoil the townies who did push the godfather over.

Sorry, this post was supposed to be about hamilton and chaqa; I have bozo on the mind and I'm tired again.

[BunnyGo]

##VOTE food

Protecting HB?

Did you forget the part about the claims?

No. Those were dumb.

Your voting record is awful. Bozos is worse.

Your tone generally pings me as town. But when I reread I see interactions. Just like last time you were scum.

I think it’s bozo.

But you and damo are the next that scare me. Mostly you.

[BunnyGo]

i dont think its bunny either.

And it also isnt ghug or food.

Seriously?

It’s not bunny (Me!)

It’s not food.

It’s not just.

It’s (probably) not chaqa.

It’s (probably) not dargo.

It’s (probably) not brain.

It’s (probably) not froggy

It might be damo

It might be ghug


It is bozo.

[ghug]

Protecting HB?

Did you forget the part about the claims?

No. Those were dumb.

Your voting record is awful. Bozos is worse.

Your tone generally pings me as town. But when I reread I see interactions. Just like last time you were scum.

I think it’s bozo.

But you and damo are the next that scare me. Mostly you.

Can't account for taste, I guess.

My ham votes are awesome. Damo's Ham vote D1 sucked. I want you to be scum, and your voting is meh and mostly driven by your wagon status, but unfortunately you're just town.

[BunnyGo]

Did you forget the part about the claims?

No. Those were dumb.

Your voting record is awful. Bozos is worse.

Your tone generally pings me as town. But when I reread I see interactions. Just like last time you were scum.

I think it’s bozo.

But you and damo are the next that scare me. Mostly you.

Can't account for taste, I guess.

My ham votes are awesome. Damo's Ham vote D1 sucked. I want you to be scum, and your voting is meh and mostly driven by your wagon status, but unfortunately you're just town.

yup

[Frogsterking]

how do i embed youtube videos? I'm writing my bozo case

[BunnyGo]

how do i embed youtube videos? I'm writing my bozo case

I don't think we can. The button next to color lets embed gifs.

[dargorygel]

Frog
Voting empowers voting analysis.
Voting shows commitment.
Voting is fun.

[dargorygel]

i dont think its bunny either.

And it also isnt ghug or food.

Seriously?

It’s not bunny (Me!)

It’s not food.

It’s not just.

It’s (probably) not chaqa.

It’s (probably) not dargo.

It’s (probably) not brain.

It’s (probably) not froggy

It might be damo

It might be ghug


It is bozo.

Why the incredulity?

[dargorygel]

Using peterbot
how many times this game did Hamilton mention chaqa this game?

M86, HamiltonBrian, Chaqa

Copy/paste URL: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?user=HamiltonBrian&word=Chaqa&g=86


0 times
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0 posts ever even using chaqas name

Wtf

interesting

[dargorygel]

ghug's D2 looks worse knowing Hamilton was mafia and one of ghug/BunnyGo is town.

To be clear, that post was from D1. ghug usually votes for his teammates D1 as mafia at a time they are not likely to become a wagon, and that vote for Hamilton, while also defending him, fits that pattern. ghug did not vote for Hamilton again until D2 EOD when the DK was decided.

I lowkey think that vote clears me but ok.

Can you please explain how this clears you, in your mind?