M 90: Shootout at the Pretty Good Corral

[FlaviusAetius]

Why wouldn't I?

Any number of gunmen can be activated any day.

Three shots occurred, I suppose a fourth activation is unlikely, but certainly possible.

I guess I didn't think how unlikely it is, from a probability standpoint.

What are the odds of 3 town guns activating D2, 4.6875%?

Is this your roundabout way of telling us you are fake claiming?

If so, thank you for the good reaction test.

Fun fact about statistics; every possibility is equally as likely as the next , throwing 3 fours in a row is equally as likely as throwing a 4, 2 and 6

[FlaviusAetius]

Bozo, stop for just one moment.

Suppose Jamiet and sweetandcool are scum.

Then, without any planning ahead, sweetandcool surprises Jamiet with a fake claim D1.

Jamiet's first post indicates the shock you would expect from him as either alignment: "Uh, what. Why would you claim at this point?"

QUESTION: Would you expect Jamiet to be angry?

Then, he calls bullshit and votes sweetandcool. This could be interpreted as him being mad at his teammate, but IMO it is not Jamiet angry. This guy has called new players little shits for jokingly voting him, so I would expect more here.

Bunny and worcej start "chainsawing" Jamiet, but he's still outwardly cool about it. Possibly he is secretly furious, who knows.

After Balki asks Jamiet to elaborate on his comment about chainsawing. THIS is what pissed him off.

Please continue reading. Jamiet does eventually get upset with me, but it is very noticeable that what makes him upset enough to sub is the wagon forming on him, NOT his teammate sweetandcool fake claiming.

CONCLUSION: Do you find this story compelling, Bozo? Because I do not. It does not make sense if sweetandcool is his teammate. It makes some sense of Balki is his teammate, but I don't even buy that.

Jamiet is TOWN.

If Jamie is mafia, his reaction in his posts was what he wants us to think his reaction was, not necessarily what it was.

Yes, but also no. I am confident that Hamiet would be viscerally furious. In fact, if I was his teammate he could have authentically unloaded on me. He hates fake claiming and inconsistency and that beginning of day claim drove him insane and he would have gone bonkers is we were teammates.

We are absolutely not teammates.

I think he is Town.

But it's obviously not definitive.

But it is definitive that we are not teammates. And basing your theories on that assumption is incorrect and leads to a loss for Town.

Are you saying one of you has to be a mafia (and therefore NOT on the same team? Since you believe Jamie is not mafia wouldnt that mean you are?

[FlaviusAetius]

Why would the Mafia even use the roleblock after Eden died. It can't roleblock people getting guns, I'm sure.

I don't know, but they practically town cleared kingofthepirates by doing it, I think the chance that kingofthepirates would fake claim a RB as mafia here is very small.

Yet you believe I came up with an insane fake claim play, and Jamiet engaged in convincing theater with me, and Balki joined in, and Jaimet improvised fake rage?

If you are going to be skeptical, please do not be selectively skeptical.

I agree with food on this you were going to do this regardless which is why I was so shocked when he was voting you for it!

[sweetandcool]

Flav's style this game is if Will, Bozo, and Jamiet had an unholy baby.

Normally he's more like a combination of Bozo and Jamiet.

[FlaviusAetius]

Yes, but also no. I am confident that Hamiet would be viscerally furious. In fact, if I was his teammate he could have authentically unloaded on me. He hates fake claiming and inconsistency and that beginning of day claim drove him insane and he would have gone bonkers is we were teammates.

We are absolutely not teammates.

I think he is Town.

But it's obviously not definitive.

But it is definitive that we are not teammates. And basing your theories on that assumption is incorrect and leads to a loss for Town.

Did you mean to say "not scum teammates"?

*Sigh* yes.

Is quibbling necessary?

Maybe I scum slipped. At least now Jamiet is clear, yay!

Why would this make Jamie cleared, just because he noticed something pretty basic ? I mean even I noticed that

[FlaviusAetius]

Flav's style this game is if Will, Bozo, and Jamiet had an unholy baby.

Normally he's more like a combination of Bozo and Jamiet.

Im pretty sure a lot of people play like me, several people said so last game. Its a good way to play because you interract with the entire game, but you have to be active in order to do it

[FlaviusAetius]

I’m the sheriff. I got a guilty scan on KotP. ##vote king ##end. See you nerds tomorrow.

WHAT

[FlaviusAetius]

Just checked the bot to DOUBLE check
President Eden died EoD2 - He was the Sheriff!

Bunny you are >not< the sheriff

[Jamiet99uk]

Stop.

[BunnyGo]

Just checked the bot to DOUBLE check
President Eden died EoD2 - He was the Sheriff!

Bunny you are >not< the sheriff

I just checked and double checked my role PM. And my night time PMs.

I’m TOTALLY the sheriff. <100%> confirmed.

[FlaviusAetius]

Yet you believe I came up with an insane fake claim play, and Jamiet engaged in convincing theater with me, and Balki joined in, and Jaimet improvised fake rage?

If you are going to be skeptical, please do not be selectively skeptical.

You have demonstrated that your claims are not to be believed this game, kingofthepirates has not. Was you RB claim real?

Yeah, but I don't particularly care if you believe it.

Coming into today King was under intense, probably irrecoverable pressure. Makes sense to me to holster the RB and claim it.

At the very least, it saves him for a day or two, which should be enough for the win.

##call GM can the RB prevent someone from getting a gun? If so I believe KOTP if not then its WIFOM @bozo it definetly does not clear him

[BunnyGo]

Stop.

[FlaviusAetius]

stop what

[FlaviusAetius]

Just checked the bot to DOUBLE check
President Eden died EoD2 - He was the Sheriff!

Bunny you are >not< the sheriff

I just checked and double checked my role PM. And my night time PMs.

I’m TOTALLY the sheriff. <100%> confirmed.

OK now you are just being sarcastic

[Bonatogether]

You have demonstrated that your claims are not to be believed this game, kingofthepirates has not. Was you RB claim real?

Yeah, but I don't particularly care if you believe it.

Coming into today King was under intense, probably irrecoverable pressure. Makes sense to me to holster the RB and claim it.

At the very least, it saves him for a day or two, which should be enough for the win.

##call GM can the RB prevent someone from getting a gun? If so I believe KOTP if not then its WIFOM @bozo it definetly does not clear him

It cannot. Guns activate when they're slated to.

[dargorygel]

You have demonstrated that your claims are not to be believed this game, kingofthepirates has not. Was you RB claim real?

Yeah, but I don't particularly care if you believe it.

Coming into today King was under intense, probably irrecoverable pressure. Makes sense to me to holster the RB and claim it.

At the very least, it saves him for a day or two, which should be enough for the win.

##call GM can the RB prevent someone from getting a gun? If so I believe KOTP if not then its WIFOM @bozo it definetly does not clear him

RoleBlock: The Scum team has one factional role block, assigned at night by majority vote of the scum team. No individual performs the RoleBlock. The ONLY town character effected by the RoleBlock is the Investigative Sherrif.

[FlaviusAetius]

Ah, so y'all did come up with a likely winning plan. I was hoping Mafia wouldn't be clever enough to make this play.

##VOTE Bozo

I thought you believed my claim?

I am forced to not believe it.

It is much too convenient for you to be possibly suggesting three Town players as your final solve, while wielding authority over the day by merit of your lawman claim.

We either lose, or you are lying. Consequently I must believe you are faking and probably scum.

Final solve: Flav, King, Bozo.

Bozo has no more or less authority over the day than before the claim, we still need to vote for someone and that person wont be who he shoots / doesnt shoot; the only person it affects is himself

[FlaviusAetius]

Thanks @darg @bona

[FlaviusAetius]

For future reference, while I understand the desire to not policy vote D1, this is why lurkers get away with it every damn game. D1 is too soon to vote them and D2 we are too busy trying not to lose.

Absolutely infuriating. I'm not allowed to violate meta with fake claims, but lurking is just dandy.

No, it's shameful and it's the most joyless way to win.

D3 is the perfect day to kill a lurker, D1 its too early to say who is a lurker and who is not, D2 we are using D1 and N1 to solve D2, D3 is when its time to kill a lurker . If we dont then the game becomes a ghost town and we have zero chance of victory

[FlaviusAetius]

@Bunny - Why are you so sure about King you are ebd voting him?
By the way, he is one I can vote today other then the three I nominated.

And why Flavius is town?

I like Flavius’ energy and posts. I think it’s from a towny mentality.

I got a guilty scan on king.

Ok,..in seriousness, it was a gag that turned into a reaction test that got to the point where him voting himself sells me on being scum.

I lost my page but I had to respond to this, I agree what king has done D3 has not been great, but we have literally two other days to go off of how can we vote him off of one comment