MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

[President Eden]

For the record, I believe I still would have targeted a townread if we had killed s&c or Bona yesterday.

It’s only because we no-killed and created a situation where blocking a kill gives us a miskill back that I believed the gamble made sense.

I’ll humor you. From your perspective Damo is now confScum.

Likewise Bona must be.

What does that make sweet? The third one?

So that means Bona or sweet made the kill

I think it has to be sweet yea.

EOD3 doesn’t make any sense to me if Bona and sweet aren’t both mafia on the block. Bona has no incentive to disrupt us hanging the Bodyguard.

[Chaqa]

What happens to the Bodyguard of the target is Strongmanned?

[Foxcastle]

##GM CALL

Sorry for the questions, but can you explain the mechanics of the one shot drive that JOAT has? I swear it isn't explained anywhere in the rules or the link.

##GM Note: The Driver targets two players, A and B, after which any action directed at Player A will instead be targeted at Player B, and vice versa. The players are not notified they have been driven.

[Chaqa]

I think the rush of end votes speaks for itself.

Mafia thought they had it.

Tbh I’m finding myself believing Bona much more than you

That’s a shame because I feel like you more than anyone else in this game would appreciate my thinking on this.

Be angry that I blew it for us, sure, but at least understand it.

I find it hard to believe you’d RB Damo and he’s just somehow Bona and Sweet’s partner

[Chaqa]

I think it’s Eden and Sweet

[President Eden]

Tbh I’m finding myself believing Bona much more than you

That’s a shame because I feel like you more than anyone else in this game would appreciate my thinking on this.

Be angry that I blew it for us, sure, but at least understand it.

What I don’t get is being against it and then doing a 180 at EoN

What do you mean? I think I acknowledged to Dousing at one point that I thought going for the kill was the cool play but just tactically unsound.

That was before we no killed and made the “cool” play actually have upside.

And then as I sat on pins and needles in the final hour of N3 waiting for Dousing and thinking things over, and seeing next to no discussion at all, I felt like I needed to go for the aggressive line.

Obviously having missed on the vote I regret it, but I don’t think the reasoning was internally flawed or anything.

I will admit that I thought more people would at least get it even if they hate it, but I guess when the whole scumteam is almost immediately there to jump on me, it’s easy to get swept up in the emotion and bandwagon the asshole who tried to be a hero.

[President Eden]

Tbh I’m finding myself believing Bona much more than you

That’s a shame because I feel like you more than anyone else in this game would appreciate my thinking on this.

Be angry that I blew it for us, sure, but at least understand it.

I find it hard to believe you’d RB Damo and he’s just somehow Bona and Sweet’s partner

Yeah, I can see how that looks unlikely.

I’m annoyed at myself that I somehow hit scum twice, but didn’t block a single kill when even one block wins the game for us. Pretty unlucky but maybe I just played it bad.

[Chaqa]

##GM CALL

Sorry for the questions, but can you explain the mechanics of the one shot drive that JOAT has? I swear it isn't explained anywhere in the rules or the link.

##GM Note: The Driver targets two players, A and B, after which any action directed at Player A will instead be targeted at Player B, and vice versa. The players are not notified they have been driven.

##CallGM: would the tracker follow a driver to both targets? And would a tracker follow someone else onto their new target if their target was driven?

[President Eden]

That’s a shame because I feel like you more than anyone else in this game would appreciate my thinking on this.

Be angry that I blew it for us, sure, but at least understand it.

I find it hard to believe you’d RB Damo and he’s just somehow Bona and Sweet’s partner

Yeah, I can see how that looks unlikely.

I’m annoyed at myself that I somehow hit scum twice, but didn’t block a single kill when even one block wins the game for us. Pretty unlucky but maybe I just played it bad.

Well, ok, maybe the N1 hit doesn’t win the game but you get what I mean. If we had a miskill and I’d caught out two scum for it then I’d happily consent to being flipped to prove it, but we’re here now.

[sweetandcool]

That’s a shame because I feel like you more than anyone else in this game would appreciate my thinking on this.

Be angry that I blew it for us, sure, but at least understand it.

What I don’t get is being against it and then doing a 180 at EoN

What do you mean? I think I acknowledged to Dousing at one point that I thought going for the kill was the cool play but just tactically unsound.

That was before we no killed and made the “cool” play actually have upside.

And then as I sat on pins and needles in the final hour of N3 waiting for Dousing and thinking things over, and seeing next to no discussion at all, I felt like I needed to go for the aggressive line.

Obviously having missed on the vote I regret it, but I don’t think the reasoning was internally flawed or anything.

I will admit that I thought more people would at least get it even if they hate it, but I guess when the whole scumteam is almost immediately there to jump on me, it’s easy to get swept up in the emotion and bandwagon the asshole who tried to be a hero.

Honestly, I'm a bit confused as to why town is taking your decision so hard. Obviously, deviating from the plan is bad, but since Dousing never showed up, you had to choose somebody.

Some alien thinking I will have to study and try to understand for future reference

[sweetandcool]

##GM CALL

Sorry for the questions, but can you explain the mechanics of the one shot drive that JOAT has? I swear it isn't explained anywhere in the rules or the link.

##GM Note: The Driver targets two players, A and B, after which any action directed at Player A will instead be targeted at Player B, and vice versa. The players are not notified they have been driven.

##GM CALL

Is the effect in play for one night or the entire game?

[damo666]

I think it’s Eden and Sweet

How does that work with Bona tracking Eden to Sweet? Unless it's the 3 of them but that seems unlikely in the extreme.

[President Eden]

What I don’t get is being against it and then doing a 180 at EoN

What do you mean? I think I acknowledged to Dousing at one point that I thought going for the kill was the cool play but just tactically unsound.

That was before we no killed and made the “cool” play actually have upside.

And then as I sat on pins and needles in the final hour of N3 waiting for Dousing and thinking things over, and seeing next to no discussion at all, I felt like I needed to go for the aggressive line.

Obviously having missed on the vote I regret it, but I don’t think the reasoning was internally flawed or anything.

I will admit that I thought more people would at least get it even if they hate it, but I guess when the whole scumteam is almost immediately there to jump on me, it’s easy to get swept up in the emotion and bandwagon the asshole who tried to be a hero.

Honestly, I'm a bit confused as to why town is taking your decision so hard. Obviously, deviating from the plan is bad, but since Dousing never showed up, you had to choose somebody.

Some alien thinking I will have to study and try to understand for future reference

Can’t say you struck me as the gloating type lol. Fair enough…

[Chaqa]

##Vote no kill

Eden roleblock someone besides Damo Bona sweet

[Chaqa]

I think it’s Eden and Sweet

How does that work with Bona tracking Eden to Sweet? Unless it's the 3 of them but that seems unlikely in the extreme.

Not sure yet. Waiting on some Gmcalls

[President Eden]

##Vote no kill

Eden roleblock someone besides Damo Bona sweet

Okay. I know who I want to target, but it’s kind of the kiss of death to say.

Maybe we can actually discuss who it should be before EON?

[President Eden]

I think it’s Eden and Sweet

I don’t think it can ever be both of us here, but I appreciate why you might not care to hear that from me lol.

[President Eden]

Ooh shit I forgot we changed the standstill rule.

Scum have to shoot don’t they?

No kill is just correct here

[sweetandcool]

What do you mean? I think I acknowledged to Dousing at one point that I thought going for the kill was the cool play but just tactically unsound.

That was before we no killed and made the “cool” play actually have upside.

And then as I sat on pins and needles in the final hour of N3 waiting for Dousing and thinking things over, and seeing next to no discussion at all, I felt like I needed to go for the aggressive line.

Obviously having missed on the vote I regret it, but I don’t think the reasoning was internally flawed or anything.

I will admit that I thought more people would at least get it even if they hate it, but I guess when the whole scumteam is almost immediately there to jump on me, it’s easy to get swept up in the emotion and bandwagon the asshole who tried to be a hero.

Honestly, I'm a bit confused as to why town is taking your decision so hard. Obviously, deviating from the plan is bad, but since Dousing never showed up, you had to choose somebody.

Some alien thinking I will have to study and try to understand for future reference

Can’t say you struck me as the gloating type lol. Fair enough…

I am not gloating. Gloating is stupid. Even when the game is over, because there are always future games.

[sweetandcool]

Ooh shit I forgot we changed the standstill rule.

Scum have to shoot don’t they?

No kill is just correct here

Why is no-kill correct? I am utterly confused.