M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

Probably inferrring that the mail contained a lie since ghug didn’t flip as mafia.

This implies that Bozo is certain that the gunshot that killed Ghug was fired by town, right?

Otherwise, why would the Mafia team agree to signal to Bozo that one of them had a (fake) cop scan on Ghug, and then in the same phase, shoot and kill Ghug to reveal that Ghug was not "guilty" at all.

That does not make any sense, so Bozo must be assuming that a townie shot Ghug.

@Bozo could you confirm that this is your theory?

Do we want Ghug's killer, if they are town, to reveal themself, or not?

Either Bozo shot the gun, and is just embarrased, or scum tried to frame him in some weird way. I dont see how another towny just randomly happened to shoot Ghug at the exact time.

I dont think theres any way for scum to know Bozo had a gun -and- activated it? Couldve just found out he had it, and just sending him the msg in the hopes he'd shoot it sooner or later?

3P couldve figured out Bozo had a gun, but then why not just steal it?

I was not the shooter. I always thought the message was from the mafia, because it was very unlikely (although not impossible) that the cop would also have the mail item.

[Vecna]

What is this the vegan tofu thing or something else?

Who is sending lettters? What is bozo claiming?

I believe it's the napkins.

But if bozo got mail trying to fool town into DKing ghug, then the gun is likely still in town's hands. Scum would coordinate and would not frame ghug and then kill him... that's a waste.

I do not think any town would shoot ghug before he had posted D3. Also, the gun item was not a 3P item, so town would likely claim it before shooting to give ghug a chance to claim a town only item.

I think the mafia holding the gun decided to shoot when it was apparent I was ignoring the message about the ghug guilty scan, which likely indicated to them that I did not believe it was from town.

Anyways, If this has not been done yet, bozo HAS to hardclaim whether he was the one that shot the gun or not.

We cannot have a situation where this remains vague, because we need to be able to reconstruct shit later on to catch the 3P. We've reached a stage of the game where some-most items are used up, so we can just start thrownig them around, but these clues can give us valuable information later on.

[Vecna]

Oh, mafia can't start with steak.
That's interesting. Let me rethink my theories a bit

huh

[Vecna]

Oh, mafia can't start with steak.
That's interesting. Let me rethink my theories a bit

I missed that, it could be a 3P shot, but the mafia could have gotten it from Bonatogether or celaph.

I think only a 3P player with very bad mechanical understanding would shoot the gun this early. The smaller the pool of people becomes, the more items you could get with that gun....

[bozotheclown]

My top scum candidates are now Tom, Jamie, and foodcoats. Since it is probably safe to assume Jamie really started with the double vote, maybe Tom had the mail item and foodcoats had the JOAT item. The mafia may have picked up the gun from celaph.

Since Bonatogether's item is unaccounted for, there is a reasonable chance the 3P picked it up D1. Also, the 3P would want to be on Jamie's wagon when it looked like there was a good chance he would be the DK D2. I think that makes Vecna and lfischl the top 3P candidates. Tom is another 3P possibility if he is not mafia.

[bozotheclown]

Oh, mafia can't start with steak.
That's interesting. Let me rethink my theories a bit

I missed that, it could be a 3P shot, but the mafia could have gotten it from Bonatogether or celaph.

I think only a 3P player with very bad mechanical understanding would shoot the gun this early. The smaller the pool of people becomes, the more items you could get with that gun....

Yes, that is one reason why I think it was a mafia shot.

[bozotheclown]

I missed Maniac, he is also a good 3P candidate. lfischl voted for Jamie for self preservation, and was actively involved in starting an alternate wagon, so I think Vecna and Maniac are the most likely 3P candidates. My guess is Vecna, since he did not seem concerned about Jamie's item going to the 3P D2.

[Vecna]

Oh and because I think Bob asked me this before and I didn't confirm:

I have not been robbed at any point.

cool cool, good to know

Its interesting to note that no items have been confirmed stolen yet during the night.

[Vecna]

##CALL GM

The way I'm reading it, if you equip the tortilla it stays until you get shot. Is this correct?

Yes.

does this mean if we do not kill Macca today, he can gladiate again tomorrow?

[BobMcBob]

Oh and because I think Bob asked me this before and I didn't confirm:

I have not been robbed at any point.

cool cool, good to know

Its interesting to note that no items have been confirmed stolen yet during the night.

yeah it kinda makes you wonder what 3p is doing with their life...

[BobMcBob]

##CALL GM

The way I'm reading it, if you equip the tortilla it stays until you get shot. Is this correct?

Yes.

does this mean if we do not kill Macca today, he can gladiate again tomorrow?

tortilla is the bulletproof item, spinach is gladiator

[damo666]

cool cool, good to know

Its interesting to note that no items have been confirmed stolen yet during the night.

yeah it kinda makes you wonder what 3p is doing with their life...

Maybe Macca is 3p.....

[Vecna]

Good point. I think it could be ghug. To eliminate that possibilty the cop really should claim.

If ghug were cop we should note he said he knew Jamie was scum. Jamie could've bussed kak.

Cop please claim to get me out of this particular rabbit hole.

This will probably just get me killed, but I am the Cop (in fact I am a Chipotle employees who have the Guac since start).

I wasn't roleblocked and I use it only N1 on Celaph (who obviously scanned as innocent). I just missed using it last night. The only good news is that it still have one use and I can give it to someone less useless.

oh dear thats... bad
thats remarkably convenient
why did rdr not scan a scumread of his?
why would scum rdr pretend to not have put through a scan last night?
so that he has an excuse to stay alive longer?
is rdr just 3p here?
does 3p rdr do random junk like this that looks bad?

Yeah, im mainly surprised at Rdr feeling the need to scan Celaph N1. Especially since he was so obviously town already during the day and a likely NK candidate....

[damo666]

This will probably just get me killed, but I am the Cop (in fact I am a Chipotle employees who have the Guac since start).

I wasn't roleblocked and I use it only N1 on Celaph (who obviously scanned as innocent). I just missed using it last night. The only good news is that it still have one use and I can give it to someone less useless.

oh dear thats... bad
thats remarkably convenient
why did rdr not scan a scumread of his?
why would scum rdr pretend to not have put through a scan last night?
so that he has an excuse to stay alive longer?
is rdr just 3p here?
does 3p rdr do random junk like this that looks bad?

Yeah, im mainly surprised at Rdr feeling the need to scan Celaph N1. Especially since he was so obviously town already during the day and a likely NK candidate....

You think scum rdr would unnecessarily claim gambling no cop to cc?

[Vecna]

i really hate damo sometimes...

What now?

randomly voting a sub who has yet to catch up or make any statements is just lame

First comment of bob that gives me some - but even then this is not something you'd say if someone randomly votes your teammate

[Maniac]

oh dear thats... bad
thats remarkably convenient
why did rdr not scan a scumread of his?
why would scum rdr pretend to not have put through a scan last night?
so that he has an excuse to stay alive longer?
is rdr just 3p here?
does 3p rdr do random junk like this that looks bad?

Yeah, im mainly surprised at Rdr feeling the need to scan Celaph N1. Especially since he was so obviously town already during the day and a likely NK candidate....

You think scum rdr would unnecessarily claim gambling no cop to cc?

This is very important.

Scum!Rdr doesn’t have to gamble on cop claiming if mafia killed the cop. In this game no one is clear. Especially a cop claim that gives us no clear or Mafia. Even giving his item away does clear him. @damo - likewise you’re not clear.

I’m aware I was happy to have Rdr, Damo and vecna as the sole Tom voters. I think they are town but they absolutely are not clear.

[Vecna]

##VoteTom - seems clear to me

The capitalisation of Ghug is maybe just down to the fact that 'G' starts the sentence. I suppose we could discount anyone who starts sentences with a lower case letter.

@Bozo: Did the sentence actually start with the word Ghug? This could be a scumslip.

(dont think he provided the literal text yet did he? I might not be reading too carefully?)

[damo666]

Yeah, im mainly surprised at Rdr feeling the need to scan Celaph N1. Especially since he was so obviously town already during the day and a likely NK candidate....

You think scum rdr would unnecessarily claim gambling no cop to cc?

This is very important.

Scum!Rdr doesn’t have to gamble on cop claiming if mafia killed the cop. In this game no one is clear. Especially a cop claim that gives us no clear or Mafia. Even giving his item away does clear him. @damo - likewise you’re not clear.

I’m aware I was happy to have Rdr, Damo and vecna as the sole Tom voters. I think they are town but they absolutely are not clear.

Oh yeah if celaph were cop scum rdr would know but surely he'd come up with a better story than "I forgot to scan", you just pick a non team mate at random and declare them inno.

And yes nobody can be absolutely clear, not while 3p lives anyway.

[damo666]

##VoteTom - seems clear to me

The capitalisation of Ghug is maybe just down to the fact that 'G' starts the sentence. I suppose we could discount anyone who starts sentences with a lower case letter.

@Bozo: Did the sentence actually start with the word Ghug? This could be a scumslip.

(dont think he provided the literal text yet did he? I might not be reading too carefully?)

Yes, literal text provided and first word was "Ghug".

[Vecna]

Let's just have rdr, damo and vecna on Ton's wagon and everyone else unvote. If they are telling the truth then rdr and damo cant't be mafia or 3P and vecna can't be mafia and unlikely 3P as he is unlikely to be roleblocker AND mailman (assuming mailman is 3P)

We need at least 6 to be safe

6 - negated vote = 5

3 scum + extra vote = 4

(I don't think Jamie is scum but this is just to he sure)

too late now, but why would the entire scumteam wanna vote, out themselves, on day3? Seems like an argument to get more votes on that wagon when this was still a potential outcome.