Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

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Re: Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

#2561 Post by damo666 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:35 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:33 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:06 pm


are you signalling you do not intend staying on ghug?
Just that I’m going to have to get serious with my vote soonish.
One thing I’ve thought about is that at this point it is probably strategically superior for town NOT to replicate sweet v damo because we can triangulate more later by having different lead wagons today.
Agreed.

sweet v someone else (like Balki say) may be useful

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#2562 Post by snowy801 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm

Can't get it out of my head since someone mentioned it

Fidelis has been online multiple times since he posted (5+ just from what I've seen) yet has not posted in 60 hours

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#2563 Post by snowy801 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:53 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:35 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:33 pm


Just that I’m going to have to get serious with my vote soonish.
One thing I’ve thought about is that at this point it is probably strategically superior for town NOT to replicate sweet v damo because we can triangulate more later by having different lead wagons today.
Agreed.

sweet v someone else (like Balki say) may be useful
Remind me again why you think sweet is scum?
I've come around again to think that he isn't

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#2564 Post by damo666 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:54 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm
Can't get it out of my head since someone mentioned it

Fidelis has been online multiple times since he posted (5+ just from what I've seen) yet has not posted in 60 hours
Is there a case for killing him since he's becoming a likely modkill anyway? I can never decide in these situations what to do. We can't really afford to lose 2 town during a day phase.

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#2565 Post by foodcoats » Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:55 pm

##VOTE Diplomacy&Warfare

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#2566 Post by foodcoats » Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:56 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:54 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm
Can't get it out of my head since someone mentioned it

Fidelis has been online multiple times since he posted (5+ just from what I've seen) yet has not posted in 60 hours
Is there a case for killing him since he's becoming a likely modkill anyway? I can never decide in these situations what to do. We can't really afford to lose 2 town during a day phase.
Do you town read Fidelis?

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#2567 Post by snowy801 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:57 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:54 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm
Can't get it out of my head since someone mentioned it

Fidelis has been online multiple times since he posted (5+ just from what I've seen) yet has not posted in 60 hours
Is there a case for killing him since he's becoming a likely modkill anyway? I can never decide in these situations what to do. We can't really afford to lose 2 town during a day phase.
Perhaps something to consider closer to EoD

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#2568 Post by damo666 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:59 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:53 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:35 pm


One thing I’ve thought about is that at this point it is probably strategically superior for town NOT to replicate sweet v damo because we can triangulate more later by having different lead wagons today.
Agreed.

sweet v someone else (like Balki say) may be useful
Remind me again why you think sweet is scum?
I've come around again to think that he isn't
He's gravitated to null for me (see my list) but I think it may be instructive if he's in top two wagons again as there is possible he was saved yesterday with the Ham flash (because I wasn't). However, he's not a priority.

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#2569 Post by foodcoats » Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:59 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:35 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:33 pm


Just that I’m going to have to get serious with my vote soonish.
One thing I’ve thought about is that at this point it is probably strategically superior for town NOT to replicate sweet v damo because we can triangulate more later by having different lead wagons today.
Agreed.

sweet v someone else (like Balki say) may be useful
Sweet vs. balki seems like madness to me, but I townread them both.

I also think it is overall better not to have sweet OR you (damo) as a wagon today because we will have a fair bit of data about you two after we see a couple more deaths. As sweet pointed out there is also a troublesome problem if we daykill one of you and you flip town.

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#2570 Post by snowy801 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:00 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:59 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:53 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm


Agreed.

sweet v someone else (like Balki say) may be useful
Remind me again why you think sweet is scum?
I've come around again to think that he isn't
He's gravitated to null for me (see my list) but I think it may be instructive if he's in top two wagons again as there is possible he was saved yesterday with the Ham flash (because I wasn't). However, he's not a priority.
Aside from Balki, who would your ideal kill be if sweet is simply a manner of wagonomics?

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#2571 Post by damo666 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:00 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:56 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:54 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm
Can't get it out of my head since someone mentioned it

Fidelis has been online multiple times since he posted (5+ just from what I've seen) yet has not posted in 60 hours
Is there a case for killing him since he's becoming a likely modkill anyway? I can never decide in these situations what to do. We can't really afford to lose 2 town during a day phase.
Do you town read Fidelis?
No, he's in my null-scum bucket.

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#2572 Post by snowy801 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:01 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:59 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:35 pm


One thing I’ve thought about is that at this point it is probably strategically superior for town NOT to replicate sweet v damo because we can triangulate more later by having different lead wagons today.
Agreed.

sweet v someone else (like Balki say) may be useful
Sweet vs. balki seems like madness to me, but I townread them both.

I also think it is overall better not to have sweet OR you (damo) as a wagon today because we will have a fair bit of data about you two after we see a couple more deaths. As sweet pointed out there is also a troublesome problem if we daykill one of you and you flip town.
Why do you town read Balki?

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#2573 Post by damo666 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:01 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:59 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:35 pm


One thing I’ve thought about is that at this point it is probably strategically superior for town NOT to replicate sweet v damo because we can triangulate more later by having different lead wagons today.
Agreed.

sweet v someone else (like Balki say) may be useful
Sweet vs. balki seems like madness to me, but I townread them both.

I also think it is overall better not to have sweet OR you (damo) as a wagon today because we will have a fair bit of data about you two after we see a couple more deaths. As sweet pointed out there is also a troublesome problem if we daykill one of you and you flip town.
fair point

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#2574 Post by damo666 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:04 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:00 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:59 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:53 pm


Remind me again why you think sweet is scum?
I've come around again to think that he isn't
He's gravitated to null for me (see my list) but I think it may be instructive if he's in top two wagons again as there is possible he was saved yesterday with the Ham flash (because I wasn't). However, he's not a priority.
Aside from Balki, who would your ideal kill be if sweet is simply a manner of wagonomics?
Dr F > worcej

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#2575 Post by snowy801 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:07 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:04 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:00 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:59 pm


He's gravitated to null for me (see my list) but I think it may be instructive if he's in top two wagons again as there is possible he was saved yesterday with the Ham flash (because I wasn't). However, he's not a priority.
Aside from Balki, who would your ideal kill be if sweet is simply a manner of wagonomics?
Dr F > worcej
Setting aside DrF, why have you done nothing to encourage votes on worcej? You have not voted him, not explained why you scum read him, not once started a discussion on him. Merely placed him at the bottom of your list and called it a day. What would you say is the cause of your lethargy?

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#2576 Post by Chaqa » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:07 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm
Can't get it out of my head since someone mentioned it

Fidelis has been online multiple times since he posted (5+ just from what I've seen) yet has not posted in 60 hours
Has he been active on the forums? I know part of the reason I disabled my activity status was people kept telling me I was active when I wasn’t active

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#2577 Post by snowy801 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:10 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:07 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm
Can't get it out of my head since someone mentioned it

Fidelis has been online multiple times since he posted (5+ just from what I've seen) yet has not posted in 60 hours
Has he been active on the forums? I know part of the reason I disabled my activity status was people kept telling me I was active when I wasn’t active
No clue

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#2578 Post by Chaqa » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:15 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:10 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:07 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm
Can't get it out of my head since someone mentioned it

Fidelis has been online multiple times since he posted (5+ just from what I've seen) yet has not posted in 60 hours
Has he been active on the forums? I know part of the reason I disabled my activity status was people kept telling me I was active when I wasn’t active
No clue
But you know he’s been active. So clearly you’re watching something? Is it just the activity thing at the bottom?

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#2579 Post by snowy801 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:16 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:15 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:10 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:07 pm


Has he been active on the forums? I know part of the reason I disabled my activity status was people kept telling me I was active when I wasn’t active
No clue
But you know he’s been active. So clearly you’re watching something? Is it just the activity thing at the bottom?
Yes

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#2580 Post by foodcoats » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:20 pm

snowy801 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:01 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:59 pm
damo666 wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:51 pm


Agreed.

sweet v someone else (like Balki say) may be useful
Sweet vs. balki seems like madness to me, but I townread them both.

I also think it is overall better not to have sweet OR you (damo) as a wagon today because we will have a fair bit of data about you two after we see a couple more deaths. As sweet pointed out there is also a troublesome problem if we daykill one of you and you flip town.
Why do you town read Balki?
I explained way back that I think the way he aggressively tried to crack the game mechanically is townie. I known some people think that talking mechanics is NAI but in this case I disagree, because Balki’s plan will help ensure town gets (near?) max value out of its cops and have a better chance of winning. It’s not just talking mechanics but using the mechanics to build a winning strategy for town. It’s something that scum are much less likely to have the initiative to suggest. It does not mean Balki is lock-town but I think it’s madness to vote him without more data.

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