Mafia 87: Madness in Mega-City One - GAME THREAD

[Vecna]

What do you think of Vecna? Scum? Town? If town, helpful scum or unhelpful scum?

He is wearing a mask this game. One ive never seen. So I have no idea what version of vecna this is anymore.

a BDSM mask clearly

[Chaqa]

##vote chaqa

even statistically theres like a 43% chance he's actually scum

This simply cannot be a bad vote

Isn't the same true for you?

[Chaqa]

There hasnt been a chaqa wagon yet all game.

A chaqa that has not managed to get himself into trouble at least once clearly must be scum.

Chaqa has been very boring this game and hasnt annoyed me. Which is usually a bad look too

Ruh roh raggy

[brainbomb]

I knew I felt something last night.
Swore it was a dream.

But Nils Gimp Holgerson was in my bed

[sweetandcool]

I think you understood fine, thank you.

Do you thereby believe that, from a 3rd party perspective where you could be scum, that Chaqa defended you so hard and openly as well as opening up the saving counterwagon is a scum move? How do you think Chaqa was thinking at the time when mysterious wagonee X (you) were at the top at the eod?

Separately, knowing that you are town, what do you then think of Chaqa's behavior at eod1? His behavior arguably saved you, but if you are innocent then is it not a more natural conclusion that he was saving damo instead? What do you make of his eod play, relative to his overall play in general?

Heh, you are asking about things that I am planning on analyzing.

Knowing that I am town, I think Chaqa's behavior was consistent and it aligned with what I would expect from him based on previous games I have had with him. It's possible he was saving damo, but it doesn't feel that way to me.

In the case where I am Mafia, I think it's hard to divine Chaqa's alignment. I think interpretation of that largely depends on who is forming the opinion. But I think it essentially boils down to a WIFOM. Was Chaqa counting on the fact that his protection of his teammate was so nakedly obvious that nobody would think we were teammates? Or was he simply mistaken Town?

In either case, I think Chaqa didn't want me voted, wasn't enthusiastic about damo either but preferred it over me, was convinced by Will that Ham was plausibly scum, and so consequently supported the Ham flash wagon.

Please keep in mind these are coming from my gut, I have not had a chance to analyze and make a proper argument. I may change my mind after looking at it longer.

I find it odd that you aren’t considering any case where I am mafia but you are town. What do you know that we don’t?

I was answering snowy's questions, which did not include that case. I might have independently brought up that possibility but I really think you are town.

I'm certainly going to consider it and if it ends up being important I might bring it up in my analysis. But I'm not focused specifically on divining your alignment right now. If it becomes relevant/important then I will focus on answering that question.

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

I knew I felt something last night.
Swore it was a dream.

But Nils Gimp Holgerson was in my bed

Scummy dream
##VOTE BRAIN

[Vecna]

##vote chaqa

even statistically theres like a 43% chance he's actually scum

This simply cannot be a bad vote

Isn't the same true for you?

the math differs depending on your allignment.

Also, im clearly not a fun wagon

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

##vote chaqa

even statistically theres like a 43% chance he's actually scum

This simply cannot be a bad vote

Isn't the same true for you?

the math differs depending on your allignment.

Also, im clearly not a fun wagon

The brain wagon is fun!
##END

[Vecna]

I knew I felt something last night.
Swore it was a dream.

But Nils Gimp Holgerson was in my bed

I hope no geese were mistreated in the creation of that dream

[Chaqa]

##vote chaqa

even statistically theres like a 43% chance he's actually scum

This simply cannot be a bad vote

Isn't the same true for you?

the math differs depending on your allignment.

Also, im clearly not a fun wagon

I think you're fun!

Also, I envy your country's bicycle infrastructure.

[sweetandcool]

So does nobody else think we should resolve damo/sweet?

It would be tragic if we are both town, but otherwise if we flip one of us and it turns out scum, then wouldn't that give us a ton of insight into D1?

Are there any other flips that feel like they would give us a good amount of info?

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

So does nobody else think we should resolve damo/sweet?

It would be tragic if we are both town, but otherwise if we flip one of us and it turns out scum, then wouldn't that give us a ton of insight into D1?

Are there any other flips that feel like they would give us a good amount of info?

I still don't understand that. Are you and damo scumreading and attempting to wagon each other?

[Vecna]

Isn't the same true for you?

the math differs depending on your allignment.

Also, im clearly not a fun wagon

I think you're fun!

Also, I envy your country's bicycle infrastructure.

a nice comment about me, and a nice comment about our bike stuff.

look at you, making me feel bad about voting you already.

Im gonna unvote you, even though you made me feel even stronger about your scum suspects

##unvote

[brainbomb]

Vecna is scum pretending to be lucid town pretending to be party boy scum

[DiplomacyandWarfare]

Vecna is scum pretending to be lucid town pretending to be party boy scum

This is a town post
##UNVOTE

[brainbomb]

Vecna is scum pretending to be lucid town pretending to be party boy scum

This is a town post
##UNVOTE

David dog doesnt approve

[sweetandcool]

So does nobody else think we should resolve damo/sweet?

It would be tragic if we are both town, but otherwise if we flip one of us and it turns out scum, then wouldn't that give us a ton of insight into D1?

Are there any other flips that feel like they would give us a good amount of info?

I still don't understand that. Are you and damo scumreading and attempting to wagon each other?

Catching one of us would help answer the big question of D1: Was the flash wagon on Ham due to Mafia protecting a teammate?

If we flip damo/sweet and they are Mafia, then voting patterns D1 could potentially be very telling.

The downside is if we flip Town, that would make us more suspicious of the survivor. And if they are Town too, we just made 3 MKs, which is terrible.

[Vecna]

Vecna is scum pretending to be lucid town pretending to be party boy scum

and youre pretending to have correct reads about vecna

[brainbomb]

Vecna is scum pretending to be lucid town pretending to be party boy scum

and youre pretending to have correct reads about vecna

There is definetely no pretend. I have no idea right now

[Vecna]

Vecna is scum pretending to be lucid town pretending to be party boy scum

and youre pretending to have correct reads about vecna

There is definetely no pretend. I have no idea right now

me neither, maybe its about time I read my role pm.....