MINI MAFIA 1022 - Big Trouble in Little Genua - Game Thread [Hidden]

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.0

BesharamSabi (3) - DeathLlama8, Maniac, damo666

To calculate who is scheduled to be daykilled please read the line above.

Quite a lot of time is left.

[dargorygel]

I get the sabi wagon... and further silence from their corner does not help.

Looking elsewhere, though, too.

I just reread rdr... and I find him disengaged.

He 'defends' his opening post somewhat, but nothing more than a light defense. Sabi thought him overdefensive, I actually find him underdefensive.

He responds to llama's comment about crossbow with a 'shhhh... don't talk about it now' which seems artificial. Nothing llama asked or hinted at would be news to scum. It tastes like TRYING to be protective of town.

He mutters about ghug's almost-buddying him, which is ok, I guess.

But this is the thing that stands out to me, regarding tie votes.
First, rdrivera writes:
Day-1 06:20 page 6 / orig "I have to vote and don't have any good reason.

I will ##vote Kak just to keep the vote tied and see if he shows up."

Using a tie vote as a motivator/impetus on kak. Note it is, of course, a long way from EoD.

But a little later (still hours away from EoD) he criticizes my using a tie vote in a similar way: ↑dargorygel: "Ok... this ties it three ways with plenty of time.
##VOTE RDR"
RDRIVERA: It doesn't ties because Brad vote isn't counted by bot. I can vote Yoak or Sabi to tie it but a tie isn't a great outcome to D1.

My point is this: It demonstrates two possible things. First, it shows a standoff analysis. Surfing, without rdr's usual thoughtfulness. But second, it might be protecting kak.

tldr: scumteam rdr and kak.

It's not a great analysis, I realize. But we have such little data.
##VOTE rdr

(I could vote today for sabi until they start playing (I hope they're ok!!!) or kak, similarly, although I dislike what little kak has had to say more than I dislike what sabi has said.)

[rdrivera2005]

I get the sabi wagon... and further silence from their corner does not help.

Looking elsewhere, though, too.

I just reread rdr... and I find him disengaged.

He 'defends' his opening post somewhat, but nothing more than a light defense. Sabi thought him overdefensive, I actually find him underdefensive.

He responds to llama's comment about crossbow with a 'shhhh... don't talk about it now' which seems artificial. Nothing llama asked or hinted at would be news to scum. It tastes like TRYING to be protective of town.

He mutters about ghug's almost-buddying him, which is ok, I guess.

But this is the thing that stands out to me, regarding tie votes.
First, rdrivera writes:
Day-1 06:20 page 6 / orig "I have to vote and don't have any good reason.

I will ##vote Kak just to keep the vote tied and see if he shows up."

Using a tie vote as a motivator/impetus on kak. Note it is, of course, a long way from EoD.

But a little later (still hours away from EoD) he criticizes my using a tie vote in a similar way: ↑dargorygel: "Ok... this ties it three ways with plenty of time.
##VOTE RDR"
RDRIVERA: It doesn't ties because Brad vote isn't counted by bot. I can vote Yoak or Sabi to tie it but a tie isn't a great outcome to D1.

My point is this: It demonstrates two possible things. First, it shows a standoff analysis. Surfing, without rdr's usual thoughtfulness. But second, it might be protecting kak.

tldr: scumteam rdr and kak.

It's not a great analysis, I realize. But we have such little data.
##VOTE rdr

(I could vote today for sabi until they start playing (I hope they're ok!!!) or kak, similarly, although I dislike what little kak has had to say more than I dislike what sabi has said.)

I think you already answered yourself. But to be clear (probably someone will say I am over/under/Uber defending me) my first vote was to keep Kak under pressure to see if he shows up and play.
And I don't have problems with ties close to EOD. Ties usually force people to assume a position and less easy to scum lay low.
What I pointed to you is exactly you were not tying it because you ignored Brad vote that wasn't counted by the bot but was accepted by GM and Ray it could generate confusion at EOD.
And if I want to defend Kak why I would make his wagon viable voting him first place? I decided to move out of him after Worcej (who I townread) said it was a bad wagon and then I read that Kak's message that I skipped at game start and thought he was baiting a NK.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.1

BesharamSabi (3) - DeathLlama8, Maniac, damo666
Kakarroto (1) - Dargorygel

SABI is scheduled to be served inna-bun, with onions.

Several people need to participate, but in particular Brad, Sabi, Kak.
A fair bit of time is left.

[rdrivera2005]

Some random thoughts and reads:
I still want to hear from Kak and Sabi. At this point they are the most obvious pool for today and need to engage.

I have townreads on Worcej, Dargo and Brad (I liked the way he voted me and hope he posts more). Llama is also on the town side but less solid.

Maniac and Damo are nulls but Ghug NK as cop make me suspect a bit of Damo, he is really good at PR hunting.

[rdrivera2005]

VOTE COUNT 2.1

BesharamSabi (3) - DeathLlama8, Maniac, damo666
Kakarroto (1) - Dargorygel

SABI is scheduled to be served inna-bun, with onions.

Several people need to participate, but in particular Brad, Sabi, Kak.
A fair bit of time is left.

I am pretty sure Dargo voted for me and not Kak.

[dargorygel]

VOTE COUNT 2.1

BesharamSabi (3) - DeathLlama8, Maniac, damo666
Kakarroto (1) - Dargorygel

SABI is scheduled to be served inna-bun, with onions.

Several people need to participate, but in particular Brad, Sabi, Kak.
A fair bit of time is left.

I am pretty sure Dargo voted for me and not Kak.

Yes, I did... but your answers were reasonable... Kak needs to get in the game.
##VOTE KAK

(also to make Jamie's votecount accurate)

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.1

BesharamSabi (3) - DeathLlama8, Maniac, damo666
Kakarroto (1) - Dargorygel

SABI is scheduled to be served inna-bun, with onions.

Several people need to participate, but in particular Brad, Sabi, Kak.
A fair bit of time is left.

I am pretty sure Dargo voted for me and not Kak.

Ah sorry, there were multiple "Votes" in his post.

[BesharamSabi]

God I suck at checking webdip

[BesharamSabi]

Going to read up on everything today and be more engaged

[BradLand]

Sorry for the inactivity.

Dargo probably town
Llama probably town

##vote KAK

[BradLand]

If I had to guess Worcej and Drivera still have good chances to flip mafia.

[worcej]

Struggling to see why Sabi is suddenly getting multiple votes when we could've done it last phase...

Are we going to just go for the low posters?

Got any better ideas?

Having thought more, I'm inclined to keep Kak around due to his massive wall. I believe it's in his wheelhouse to fake a soft in order to draw the NK in an attempt to keep the cop alive.

Rdr comes off as towny for echoing my thought process on the wall too.

More to come as I catch up.

[worcej]

I get the sabi wagon... and further silence from their corner does not help.

Looking elsewhere, though, too.

I just reread rdr... and I find him disengaged.

He 'defends' his opening post somewhat, but nothing more than a light defense. Sabi thought him overdefensive, I actually find him underdefensive.

He responds to llama's comment about crossbow with a 'shhhh... don't talk about it now' which seems artificial. Nothing llama asked or hinted at would be news to scum. It tastes like TRYING to be protective of town.

He mutters about ghug's almost-buddying him, which is ok, I guess.

But this is the thing that stands out to me, regarding tie votes.
First, rdrivera writes:
Day-1 06:20 page 6 / orig "I have to vote and don't have any good reason.

I will ##vote Kak just to keep the vote tied and see if he shows up."

Using a tie vote as a motivator/impetus on kak. Note it is, of course, a long way from EoD.

But a little later (still hours away from EoD) he criticizes my using a tie vote in a similar way: ↑dargorygel: "Ok... this ties it three ways with plenty of time.
##VOTE RDR"
RDRIVERA: It doesn't ties because Brad vote isn't counted by bot. I can vote Yoak or Sabi to tie it but a tie isn't a great outcome to D1.

My point is this: It demonstrates two possible things. First, it shows a standoff analysis. Surfing, without rdr's usual thoughtfulness. But second, it might be protecting kak.

tldr: scumteam rdr and kak.

It's not a great analysis, I realize. But we have such little data.
##VOTE rdr

(I could vote today for sabi until they start playing (I hope they're ok!!!) or kak, similarly, although I dislike what little kak has had to say more than I dislike what sabi has said.)

I cannot help but find this analysis pretty damn good and makes me flip my opinion on rdr more if I approach his agreement on the cop thing to be trying to 'buddy'.

##vote rdr

[worcej]

I get the sabi wagon... and further silence from their corner does not help.

Looking elsewhere, though, too.

I just reread rdr... and I find him disengaged.

He 'defends' his opening post somewhat, but nothing more than a light defense. Sabi thought him overdefensive, I actually find him underdefensive.

He responds to llama's comment about crossbow with a 'shhhh... don't talk about it now' which seems artificial. Nothing llama asked or hinted at would be news to scum. It tastes like TRYING to be protective of town.

He mutters about ghug's almost-buddying him, which is ok, I guess.

But this is the thing that stands out to me, regarding tie votes.
First, rdrivera writes:
Day-1 06:20 page 6 / orig "I have to vote and don't have any good reason.

I will ##vote Kak just to keep the vote tied and see if he shows up."

Using a tie vote as a motivator/impetus on kak. Note it is, of course, a long way from EoD.

But a little later (still hours away from EoD) he criticizes my using a tie vote in a similar way: ↑dargorygel: "Ok... this ties it three ways with plenty of time.
##VOTE RDR"
RDRIVERA: It doesn't ties because Brad vote isn't counted by bot. I can vote Yoak or Sabi to tie it but a tie isn't a great outcome to D1.

My point is this: It demonstrates two possible things. First, it shows a standoff analysis. Surfing, without rdr's usual thoughtfulness. But second, it might be protecting kak.

tldr: scumteam rdr and kak.

It's not a great analysis, I realize. But we have such little data.
##VOTE rdr

(I could vote today for sabi until they start playing (I hope they're ok!!!) or kak, similarly, although I dislike what little kak has had to say more than I dislike what sabi has said.)

I think you already answered yourself. But to be clear (probably someone will say I am over/under/Uber defending me) my first vote was to keep Kak under pressure to see if he shows up and play.
And I don't have problems with ties close to EOD. Ties usually force people to assume a position and less easy to scum lay low.
What I pointed to you is exactly you were not tying it because you ignored Brad vote that wasn't counted by the bot but was accepted by GM and Ray it could generate confusion at EOD.
And if I want to defend Kak why I would make his wagon viable voting him first place? I decided to move out of him after Worcej (who I townread) said it was a bad wagon and then I read that Kak's message that I skipped at game start and thought he was baiting a NK.

I want to start echoing my inner ghug dialogue about I should do the opposite of what I actually think, but then am I actually thinking it or doing the opposite?

##vote Sabi

Frankly, over-the-top commentating about forgetting or will be catching up - you've posted 7 times and 3 of them were about needing to catch up. You're playing mafia on other platforms enough that it shouldn't be hard to remember you're in this game too. This is coming off as an act now.

[worcej]

That and this is only post #266 on page 13 means it shouldn't be a task to catch up

[worcej]

Sorry for the inactivity.

Dargo probably town
Llama probably town

##vote KAK

If I had to guess Worcej and Drivera still have good chances to flip mafia.

Humor me with some explanation please

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.2

BesharamSabi (4) - DeathLlama8, Maniac, damo666, Worcej
Kakarroto (2) - Dargorygel, Bradland

28 and a bit hours are left in D2.

[dargorygel]

So folk... before we get TOO far down this tunnel, does anyone have concerns over anyone other than sabi and kak and brad (all of which COULD fix our opinion...) or rdr?

It would be good to have our thoughts on the table, lest we forget.

obviously.

Again, today I am happy with a kak, or sabi, or rdr wagon.

[dargorygel]

Sorry for the inactivity.

Dargo probably town
Llama probably town

##vote KAK

If I had to guess Worcej and Drivera still have good chances to flip mafia.

Humor me with some explanation please

humor all of us.