M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[snowy801]

@Bozo - do you want to share the contents of the message with the class?

I also assume that Mafia hit Ghug but don’t know why they waited to D3 so I suppose it could be a townie with a strong read.

I would think townie with a strong read, but the all rose picks in M68 makes me semi-trust that at the very least, this community knows not to hip fire pre-discussion as town.

Do you guys think scum took Damo's offer on Maniac seriously?

If we don't have anybody claiming to have been saved, I will ##vote Maniac.

This is so unbelievably dumb and I'm not only naming and shaming you for it, but scum reading you for it.

Care to explain why?

You know scum would not take it seriously. You know, waffling over bussing aside, without an independent reason to scum read him Kaka voting Maniac makes him more likely town. You know now is not the best time to be 3P hunting.

You know all this, yet you behave this way. I don't buy it at all.

Maybe snowy, damo, and rdrivera are the remaining scum and Maniac is the 3P who they tried to NK N2.

A-amazing. Truly, he's figured it all out.

And Snowy, how are you feeling about reads lists from others right now. Mine? maniac’s? I am feeling like I am seeing you asking a lot of questions without actually putting yourself out there with specific reasons for reading people one way or the other.

Your reads list is terrible. You show zero thought into why you think something, and it's like you're not even trying. That is, incidentally, one of my main scum reads on you, but think of it as a wake up call if you're not.

Why, for example, is your town read decreasing on the Kaka voters? You were against a worcej vote yesterday, what changed your mind? You had tons of positive things to say about Maniac before, what changed since then?

Maniac's is slightly better, like he's trying to think but can't be bothered.

[snowy801]

possibilites for napkin are:
scum, who lied about having a copscan
3p, who lied about having a copscan
town who is either a complete idiot or possessed by the spirit of brainbomb
the message was never sent and this is a strange attempt at misdirection

I think it's dangerous to fake claim napkin reception, as there are numerous ways something like that can be called out
1) someone else actually has the napkin and calls BS
2) they possess the napkin, but they got tracked moving and whatever they use as an excuse for the motion gets called out as BS

I think we have to trust that town is not, in fact, straight up lying about cop scans.

I laid out reasons earlier why I think 3P has the napkin, but it is rather conjecture I admit

[TheMadMonarch]

Something I would like to mention:

Though I wasn't RoleBlocked, the holder of the JOAT item really has it out for me.

I've been lettuced, again.

[BobMcBob]

possibilites for napkin are:
scum, who lied about having a copscan
3p, who lied about having a copscan
town who is either a complete idiot or possessed by the spirit of brainbomb
the message was never sent and this is a strange attempt at misdirection

I think it's dangerous to fake claim napkin reception, as there are numerous ways something like that can be called out
1) someone else actually has the napkin and calls BS
2) they possess the napkin, but they got tracked moving and whatever they use as an excuse for the motion gets called out as BS

I think we have to trust that town is not, in fact, straight up lying about cop scans.

I laid out reasons earlier why I think 3P has the napkin, but it is rather conjecture I admit

if it is option 4 than obviously mafia also controls the napkin and bozo is mafia
it would be dumb otherwise

[bozotheclown]

no

What is this the vegan tofu thing or something else?

Who is sending lettters? What is bozo claiming?

I believe it's the napkins.

But if bozo got mail trying to fool town into DKing ghug, then the gun is likely still in town's hands. Scum would coordinate and would not frame ghug and then kill him... that's a waste.

I do not think any town would shoot ghug before he had posted D3. Also, the gun item was not a 3P item, so town would likely claim it before shooting to give ghug a chance to claim a town only item.

I think the mafia holding the gun decided to shoot when it was apparent I was ignoring the message about the ghug guilty scan, which likely indicated to them that I did not believe it was from town.

[bozotheclown]

How can Bozo know that the napkin message came from Scum?

Probably inferrring that the mail contained a lie since ghug didn’t flip as mafia.

This implies that Bozo is certain that the gunshot that killed Ghug was fired by town, right?

Otherwise, why would the Mafia team agree to signal to Bozo that one of them had a (fake) cop scan on Ghug, and then in the same phase, shoot and kill Ghug to reveal that Ghug was not "guilty" at all.

That does not make any sense, so Bozo must be assuming that a townie shot Ghug.

@Bozo could you confirm that this is your theory?

Do we want Ghug's killer, if they are town, to reveal themself, or not?

No, that is not my theory, I think the mafia shot ghug.

[snowy801]

Something I would like to mention:

Though I wasn't RoleBlocked, the holder of the JOAT item really has it out for me.

I've been lettuced, again.

Well, at least you aren't muted.

[BobMcBob]

What is this the vegan tofu thing or something else?

Who is sending lettters? What is bozo claiming?

I believe it's the napkins.

But if bozo got mail trying to fool town into DKing ghug, then the gun is likely still in town's hands. Scum would coordinate and would not frame ghug and then kill him... that's a waste.

I do not think any town would shoot ghug before he had posted D3. Also, the gun item was not a 3P item, so town would likely claim it before shooting to give ghug a chance to claim a town only item.

I think the mafia holding the gun decided to shoot when it was apparent I was ignoring the message about the ghug guilty scan, which likely indicated to them that I did not believe it was from town.

i mean that would make sense except that the steak is a 3p item, which you somehow missed apparently
the question is why does mafia send you a note of all people?

[bozotheclown]

Something I would like to mention:

Though I wasn't RoleBlocked, the holder of the JOAT item really has it out for me.

I've been lettuced, again.

What kind?

[snowy801]

Oh, mafia can't start with steak.
That's interesting. Let me rethink my theories a bit

[BobMcBob]

Something I would like to mention:

Though I wasn't RoleBlocked, the holder of the JOAT item really has it out for me.

I've been lettuced, again.

What kind?

should be pretty obvious id think

[bozotheclown]

I believe it's the napkins.

But if bozo got mail trying to fool town into DKing ghug, then the gun is likely still in town's hands. Scum would coordinate and would not frame ghug and then kill him... that's a waste.

I do not think any town would shoot ghug before he had posted D3. Also, the gun item was not a 3P item, so town would likely claim it before shooting to give ghug a chance to claim a town only item.

I think the mafia holding the gun decided to shoot when it was apparent I was ignoring the message about the ghug guilty scan, which likely indicated to them that I did not believe it was from town.

i mean that would make sense except that the steak is a 3p item, which you somehow missed apparently
the question is why does mafia send you a note of all people?

I do not think it is a 3P item.

I do not know why they would send that to me, maybe they thought I might try a cop swapping strategy and claim cop with a guilty.

[BobMcBob]

real quick i think its important that whoever started the game with steak claims it
and also if it was stolen
this will be super helpful later

i repeat, please claim if you started with steak

[BobMcBob]

I do not think any town would shoot ghug before he had posted D3. Also, the gun item was not a 3P item, so town would likely claim it before shooting to give ghug a chance to claim a town only item.

I think the mafia holding the gun decided to shoot when it was apparent I was ignoring the message about the ghug guilty scan, which likely indicated to them that I did not believe it was from town.

i mean that would make sense except that the steak is a 3p item, which you somehow missed apparently
the question is why does mafia send you a note of all people?

I do not think it is a 3P item.

I do not know why they would send that to me, maybe they thought I might try a cop swapping strategy and claim cop with a guilty.

nope never mind i thought the 3p needed either meat

[snowy801]

Well I mean in that case...
3P has no reason to suspect ghug 3P (heh)
So... bona must've had it, right?

[snowy801]

Err, sorry I keep saying bona when I mean celaph.
Celaph N1 kill -> scum steak is what I'm trying to say

[bozotheclown]

Oh, mafia can't start with steak.
That's interesting. Let me rethink my theories a bit

I missed that, it could be a 3P shot, but the mafia could have gotten it from Bonatogether or celaph.

[snowy801]

Oh, mafia can't start with steak.
That's interesting. Let me rethink my theories a bit

I missed that, it could be a 3P shot, but the mafia could have gotten it from Bonatogether or celaph.

Possibly bona, but I do not scum read a single person on the bona wagon, funnily enough.

[bozotheclown]

Something I would like to mention:

Though I wasn't RoleBlocked, the holder of the JOAT item really has it out for me.

I've been lettuced, again.

What kind?

should be pretty obvious id think

Why is that?

[TheMadMonarch]

Something I would like to mention:

Though I wasn't RoleBlocked, the holder of the JOAT item really has it out for me.

I've been lettuced, again.

What kind?

should be pretty obvious id think

it's actually not. I got spinached.