MAFIA XXXVIII: INFINITY WAR

[ND]

God that guy... lol @Y2k

[DoubtingThomas]

is chippe banned completely for future games?

i do kinda feel bad, i dont think he understood the rules? idk

[DoubtingThomas]

and man this has to happen when i finally roled a non vanilla role, huh

[y2kjbk]

I was getting excited to hide and use the power stone to rectify my abysmal start.

[y2kjbk]

Er the mind stone

[WarLegend]

Again, please don't talk shit about any other players here. everyone knows what happened, lets not rile people up more than necessary.

Consequences will be doled out however they usually are.

@DoubtingThomas, next game thats probably running has ONLY power roles so

[RagingIke297]

is chippe banned completely for future games?

i do kinda feel bad, i dont think he understood the rules? idk

I feel like we need a committee to decide what should happen. I would elect any of ND, Ghug, Bo, Vecna and/or Xorxes

[DoubtingThomas]

ike and warlegend thank you for hosting. it was fun while we were at it.

don't be discouraged by this game if you are ever to gm again i think

the set up was very complicated, but definitely worth a go, especially if you are trying to balance it further before setting another one up

thank you for your work

[DoubtingThomas]

Again, please don't talk shit about any other players here. everyone knows what happened, lets not rile people up more than necessary.

Consequences will be doled out however they usually are.

@DoubtingThomas, next game thats probably running has ONLY power roles so

sounds like a swell idea :)

[Jamiet99uk]

Thank you GMs.

This was a very enjoyable game until one person ruined it.

I think the setup was balanced. The main thing I would change, is that all the VTs should have been told their names. It's important that the PMs listed in the rules post on p1 should be the **actual** exact words that are actually sent out to players (apart from reacting the QT links).

[ghug]

I think Chippe should get a game ban. He obviously fucked up pretty bad, but his initial crime wasn't malicious even if the follow-up was, and I think he understands now. The goal is rehabilitation, not retribution.

As for the setup, I think not telling the soul stone holder that they have it is probably enough to make it workable. Maybe force the mind stone holder to give it up upon using it? Making the reality stone not usable by mafia on mafia statements could also be good. I'm down for an immediate restart if the GMs are.

[RagingIke297]

Thank you GMs.

This was a very enjoyable game until one person ruined it.

I think the setup was balanced. The main thing I would change, is that all the VTs should have been told their names. It's important that the PMs listed in the rules post on p1 should be the **actual** exact words that are actually sent out to players (apart from reacting the QT links).

That was the plan, but HR pointed out a mass claim could have been instituted to weed out who was scum and who was town

[Jamiet99uk]

Anyway I would support a quick ##restart. (With a new signup thread since ChippeRock is banned and Snowy doesn't want to play).

But I understand if the GMs are tired of this and don't immediately want to.

[RagingIke297]

Also, I did mess up when sending flash his PM. He was told his full VT role, name included.

[flash2015]

Thanks Ike and WarLegend for setting this up. My apologies for causing the game to end. It really sounded like it could have been a lot of fun. However given the position I was in and given the state of the game it really wasn't fun for me anymore. I can see though why Mafia wanted to continue, the doctor was outed, the tracker was dead and the vig had used all his shots. They were in a game winning position even if Jaimiet got shot.

Let me explain in more detail what happened - after receiving the first message from Ike, I wrote back joke-ingly complaining about rolling a boring roll (VT) again. He wrote back with the correct message I should have received and said it would be our little secret. I was a little slow. I didn't really understand what he was trying to say (that me knowing my own name was a mistake) - if he had explicitly written back "I told you your name by mistake. VTs are not supposed to know their own name" I would not have made that slip with worcej.

I am surprised that my name was not even mentioned in the Mafia QT at all, not as a PR or potentially as a stone holder. I could see after the first shot that BB was fishing a bit to confirm whether I was vig...as it sounded like I was suggesting it.

I guess I have a question for the more experienced Mafia players - what else could I have done after the worcej slip? Asking for some advice to play better next game. Again trying to figure out what to do was absorbing my thinking...I wasn't really concentrating on the rest of the game.

Again, just to finish off, thank again to Ike and WarLegend. Please accept my apology for stopping the game here.

[ND]

Yes there was a game where everyone had their VT names and it was a mass claim and instant loss for mafia. Don't give VT names out that is a very old thing here because of what happened in I think M3 (maybe?)

As for Chippie, a 1 game ban at a minimum but really I would be hesitant to play any game he joined in the future...

I still think that you guys should just do some tweaks and restart it this week if everyone is still interested because it is a good setup and we all have the time to play. It's only been two phases. Just a matter of some balances and re-rolling the roles on random.

[ND]

I guess I have a question for the more experienced Mafia players - what else could I have done after the worcej slip? Asking for some advice to play better next game. Again trying to figure out what to do was absorbing my thinking...I wasn't really concentrating on the rest of the game.

Again, just to finish off, thank again to Ike and WarLegend. Please accept my apology for stopping the game here.

@Fox: Your explanation was pretty reasonable. You didn't take a lot of heat after that and even Worcej backed off. I kept pressing it because well I need something to press since I was mafia. You were right to scum read me afterwards.

[dargorygel]

GG...
Sad it ended.
I would restart.

[Jamiet99uk]

Thank you GMs.

This was a very enjoyable game until one person ruined it.

I think the setup was balanced. The main thing I would change, is that all the VTs should have been told their names. It's important that the PMs listed in the rules post on p1 should be the **actual** exact words that are actually sent out to players (apart from reacting the QT links).

That was the plan, but HR pointed out a mass claim could have been instituted to weed out who was scum and who was town

SOLUTION: Don't tell any of the VTs their names. Any stones that need to start on a VT can be rolled at random (as a separate roll among just the VTs). Problem solved.

[brainbomb]

And an extra big sorry to the scum team who didn't want to end the game.


ROLES:
Town:
flash2015 Scarlet Witch (VT)
Foxcastle Groot (VT)
Vecna Thor (VT)
Squigs44 War Machine (VT)
Bo Hawkeye (VT)
Ghug Drax (VT)
BismarckAlive Captain America (VT)
bozo Starlord (VT)
snowy801 Spiderman (VT)
Darg Black Panther (VT)
rdrivera2005 Winter Soldier (VT)

DoubtingThomas Dr. Strange (Has Time stone)
Ezio Vision
brainbomb Gamora (Has Soul stone attached)

y2kjbk Iron Man (Vigilante) (Has Mind Stone)
ChippeRock Black Widow (Tracker)
worcej Hulk (Doctor)
xorxes Rocket Raccoon (Item Smith)

Mafia:
Jamiet99uk Ultron (Role Blocker)
Hellenic Riot The Collector (Item Thief) (Has Reality Stone)
ND Red Skull (Janitor)
damo666 Loki (Ninja) ( Has Space Stone)

Serial Killer:
Yavuzovic Thanos (Has Power Stone)

The only one I never had was damo


I had HR and Jamie very strongly locked in as scum. I had ND for at least 50% of my time.

Not bad bb