MAFIA 83: HALLOWE'EN IN THE TOYSHOP - GAME THREAD

[DemonRHK]

This everyone self vote thing is the dumbest thing I have heard in a hot minute, and I say that as a self vote master.

It provides so little info. Will is the vote, he makes the most sense and is miles into his cups.

I see you Kak. But I still don’t trust. You’re so much fucking smarter than that.

Totally agree about self vote.

Kak isn't clear, this is 100% true. But why they kill Dargo instead of me and then Spirit claim message? I almost claimed at EON2 fearing Kak could be scum or NKed. I had the message typed and then he posted my message with 1 minute to go.

That would be precisely why. They NK you and you hardclaim then die, that puts a really big scumtell on the receiver.

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Rivera, what do you think if all the unclears self-vote today?

I don't like this idea as this will just generate apathy.

Ideally we two just don't vote until last hours and let the unclears to fight between them as this is the best way to have more info about them.
One of the hardest things as scum is to build cases against people you know are town. A lot more easierto just sheep clears.

So, ND stop voting yourself as this is utterly stupid and make me want to just vote you out and you are better player then this. And for the others, make your best case.

Bro I am at a major disadvantage this first game. I thought self voting at this point was the meta cuz ND said so. I didn’t want to g against it cuz last time I proposed a non-meta play (tieing day 1) I got major suspicions from others. So I will unvote if this is correct.

Newbie doesn’t know what he’s doing (shocker)

##UNVOTE

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

##VOTE DEMON

Big funny man is suspicious

Hehe

[DemonRHK]

There is such a thing as trying to hard to look clueless.

[Kakarroto]

post 155 (p8)

would spirit address all three of his partners here?

page 10 is only mafia posts D:
(well except one GM post, but from players only all are from known mafia)

post 277&278 (p14)

ND quoting spirit to increase touch? Plus followed where Brian corrects ND's assumption.

post 283 (p15)

ND quoting brain to increase touch?

post 341 (p18)

support fire from maf partner?

post 410 (p21)

brain updating reads; puts damo and ND as town (plus with the following post includes worcej, so does brain list 3 town or tries to put one partner in?)

post 424 (p22)

was bozo killed for this read?

post 426 (p22)

now THIS might be a treasuretrove, I think, especially ND's read looks familiar (looks back to post 155) ... yeah, the same "step on me"-thing for ND. Is this a reference to a past game?
anyway, Spirit towns Brian and Will, nulls brain, nulls RD, mafs sweet, towns ND, nulls RHK and me (all except the nulls with 'slight' in front)

post 469 (p24)

would sweet say this to his partner? Like a "cool off" thing?

post 484 (p25)

spirit and sweet working together to get screwed reads out? Would they include both their partners?

post 505 (p26)

ND quoting spirits read post, critizises him for changing between capital and lower case 's' in front of town/mafia; then gives comments on spirit reads (but not on all, WITHOUT numbering/connecting them and he doesn't refer to spirits referal from a previous game [?] about himself - why ND complain about the different 's's but produce this atrocious referal in your answer >.< )
disagrees(?) with the read about Brian and Will (town does stupid stuff - where stupid stuff) especially Will, says brain can be difficult to read, on the part refering to sweet&bona he only asks if Brians suspicions have merit, answering the Vecna read he points out a connection between Vecna Macca Will, doesn't mention/react to RD, RHK and me

post 542 (p28)

spirits response to ND's response to spirits read list;
regarding Brian he thinks his wagon gets stoked, questions sweet; thinks ND's read on Will is wrong; and seems to open question ND's connection trio Vecna Macca Will

post 578 (p29)

sweet giving ND's hunting a seal of townyness, doubts that mafia would focus on newbie

RHK comes in on post 607 (p 31)

post 636 (p32)

sweet thinks ND vs Will is t/t; thinks brain is funky town (pun not intended)


post 655 (p33):
most underrated post, perfect referencing, 10/ghug


RHK goes away with post 656 (p 33)

sweet was shot page 34

post 682 (p35)

spirit likes Will more after sweet flip

ghug was shot page 36

post 754 (p38)

spirit don't really maf reads Will

post 845 (p43)
End of Day

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Woah, I'm pretty spent. That did take more energy than I thought.

I have to say, RHK feels a lot less malicious than I remember. There's lots of intertwingling of ND with mafia while RHK is practically forgotten.

But the sheer amount and how ND reacted to the three is not easy to fake for mafia. This is hard.

Hrrrm ... the overall theme was much more like connecting to each other, RHK doesn't fit that. ND also always constantly town reading RHK ... maybe it's just ND.

##vote ND


by the way, what is that 'step on me' thing spirit referred to you twice ND? Is that an insider, from a previous game or just unrelated nonsense?

[Kakarroto]

This everyone self vote thing is the dumbest thing I have heard in a hot minute, and I say that as a self vote master.

It provides so little info. Will is the vote, he makes the most sense and is miles into his cups.

I see you Kak. But I still don’t trust. You’re so much fucking smarter than that.

I'm not sure it's the dumbest I've heard, but I'm too not a fan of the system Brian suggested.

I think though that it isn't Will or else mafia would've known RD. (What does "miles into his cups" mean?)

Meh, I'm not smart, I have intelligence. Sometimes I'm clever. I told ghug about that in earlier game(s), there is a difference. Like, if I was smart, I'd play mafia on a german language site or something (although I very much appreciate the people here, it just would've been smarter to start playing on a German mafia site). A bit like Wisdom/Intelligence in dnd.

Anyway, in terms of trust, that's kinda fair. I've tunneled you a bit there. Well, at least if you are town. But I probably was too harsh on you for your day one posts, you were much less defensive of darg than I remember.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 6.2

ND (2) - ND*, Kakarroto
DemonRHK (1) - JustAGuyNamedWill

Currently ND is today's special offer.

27 hours and 10 minutes are left in Day Six.

[DemonRHK]

*Sigh*

I fully understand this will cost me my life, and I accept that.

##Vote kak

[ND]

It's Will. I've already stated my case and I don't need to go through a 48 hour phase saying what I have already said. So, we can remove him and win or drag this out into next week.

[ND]

If we are dragging it out then just vote me out because its fucking obvious that will is scum.

[rdrivera2005]

This everyone self vote thing is the dumbest thing I have heard in a hot minute, and I say that as a self vote master.

It provides so little info. Will is the vote, he makes the most sense and is miles into his cups.

I see you Kak. But I still don’t trust. You’re so much fucking smarter than that.

Totally agree about self vote.

Kak isn't clear, this is 100% true. But why they kill Dargo instead of me and then Spirit claim message? I almost claimed at EON2 fearing Kak could be scum or NKed. I had the message typed and then he posted my message with 1 minute to go.

That would be precisely why. They NK you and you hardclaim then die, that puts a really big scumtell on the receiver.

But then they went for Macca next day. We can know scum were worried with the Nurses from Brainbomb messages. Why take the risk with Macca instead of killing me when they knew I will be a clear sooner or later?

[rdrivera2005]

It's Will. I've already stated my case and I don't need to go through a 48 hour phase saying what I have already said. So, we can remove him and win or drag this out into next week.

If you want us to kill Will then start by votingb him. Even if I agree with you I can't vote him with you voting yourself.

[Hamilton Brian]

This everyone self vote thing is the dumbest thing I have heard in a hot minute, and I say that as a self vote master.

It provides so little info. Will is the vote, he makes the most sense and is miles into his cups.

I see you Kak. But I still don’t trust. You’re so much fucking smarter than that.

Totally agree about self vote.

Kak isn't clear, this is 100% true. But why they kill Dargo instead of me and then Spirit claim message? I almost claimed at EON2 fearing Kak could be scum or NKed. I had the message typed and then he posted my message with 1 minute to go.

I am not understanding this, or my sequence of events is totally off. Kak knew it was Rivera, and has been proven true numerically.

Did Spirit claim the message? I have missed that.

[Hamilton Brian]

So, self-votes are off the table then.

I;ll tell you, you learn an awful lot about someone whether they vote to end their own life or not. Especially when they proclaim to really want to but wind up voting for someone else instead.

[Hamilton Brian]

That would be precisely why. They NK you and you hardclaim then die, that puts a really big scumtell on the receiver.

I don't know what the hell's wrong with me tonight; I am reading but I am not understanding .

Oh, wait...I get it. Order is put in for the NK, but then the victim hardclaims, so then Kak, in this case, looks bad.

So that's why Kak is mafia? They avoided the NK of Rivera to give Kak some cover?

Knowing that we're going to make for a major implosion as town.

[Hamilton Brian]

Ideally we two just don't vote until last hours and let the unclears to fight between them as this is the best way to have more info about them.

I'm down with it. I don't want to drop a vote until 0:01 minute to go in the phase.

[rdrivera2005]

This everyone self vote thing is the dumbest thing I have heard in a hot minute, and I say that as a self vote master.

It provides so little info. Will is the vote, he makes the most sense and is miles into his cups.

I see you Kak. But I still don’t trust. You’re so much fucking smarter than that.

Totally agree about self vote.

Kak isn't clear, this is 100% true. But why they kill Dargo instead of me and then Spirit claim message? I almost claimed at EON2 fearing Kak could be scum or NKed. I had the message typed and then he posted my message with 1 minute to go.

I am not understanding this, or my sequence of events is totally off. Kak knew it was Rivera, and has been proven true numerically.

Did Spirit claim the message? I have missed that.

I am proven town now we have only 1 scum, but Kak isn't. Demon is saying that he need to play along with me about the message either as town or scum. I am saying that I think if Kak is scum I would have been the NK on N2 or N3. Kak is saying something about me and Will that I don't understand.

[DemonRHK]

Rdr, did you crumb the card at all?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Rdr, did you crumb the card at all?

What does this mean?

[DemonRHK]

Rdr, did you crumb the card at all?

What does this mean?

What this means Elle Woods is I am trying to see if rdr hinted early on D1 he had the card and someone may have picked up on it, and white knighted for him try to draw the card