Mafia XXXV - The WebDip Class Reunion

[bozotheclown]

@bozo - did you even look at the context of when xorxes said that?

I know it was D4 after the Ezio and rdrivera claims, which was the only thing that gave xorxes a chance to avoid the lynch, and as it turned out, did not prevent his lynch.

[bozotheclown]

@thamrick: rdrivera is now questioning you about things I already brought up, such as you being the first to vote xorxes and brainbomb and your TEACON7 nametag being a less obvious choice than other nametags, in order to seem like he is not certain of your alignment.

[bo_sox48]

@thamrick: Look at this post from Ezio D4:

The scumteam really looks like it's RD and Bozo/Xorxes, in that order of certainty.

Ezio was bussing xorxes here because he was widely scum read and was going to get lynch either D4 or D5. If rdrivera was town, do you think Ezio would bus me also, considering he had just put himself at further risk be counterclaiming rdrivera? Both Ezio and rdrivera were scum reading me so that when one got lynched, the one that did not get lynched would look like town and could push for my lynch.

I think it is quite plain to see that there is two scum in that post, so why not?

[bozotheclown]

@thamrick: Look at this post from Ezio D4:

The scumteam really looks like it's RD and Bozo/Xorxes, in that order of certainty.

Ezio was bussing xorxes here because he was widely scum read and was going to get lynch either D4 or D5. If rdrivera was town, do you think Ezio would bus me also, considering he had just put himself at further risk be counterclaiming rdrivera? Both Ezio and rdrivera were scum reading me so that when one got lynched, the one that did not get lynched would look like town and could push for my lynch.

I think it is quite plain to see that there is two scum in that post, so why not?

If rdrivera was town, Ezio would have put himself at risk by counter claiming a town, then bussed both of his teammates who had voted with him each day. If Ezio got lynched D4, xorxes would be the next lynch, and when he flipped scum, I would be the next obvious lynch. I think this was there plan, and it looks like it is going to work.

[bozotheclown]

sorry, their plan

[rdrivera2005]

@thamrick: Look at this post from Ezio D4:



Ezio was bussing xorxes here because he was widely scum read and was going to get lynch either D4 or D5. If rdrivera was town, do you think Ezio would bus me also, considering he had just put himself at further risk be counterclaiming rdrivera? Both Ezio and rdrivera were scum reading me so that when one got lynched, the one that did not get lynched would look like town and could push for my lynch.

I think it is quite plain to see that there is two scum in that post, so why not?

If rdrivera was town, Ezio would have put himself at risk by counter claiming a town, then bussed both of his teammates who had voted with him each day. If Ezio got lynched D4, xorxes would be the next lynch, and when he flipped scum, I would be the next obvious lynch. I think this was there plan, and it looks like it is going to work.

This makes no sense, if I were scum he would be bussing both of his teammates after counterclaiming one of them. The plan was to lynch me and it almost worked.

[DemonRHK]

VOTE COUNT 1.0

rdrivera2005(1): bozotheclown
bozotheclown(1): rdrivera2005

Not voted(2): Thamrick, bo_sox48

There are ~80 minutes left in day 7.

Thamrick and bo_sox48 need to cast a vote.

[bozotheclown]

I think it is quite plain to see that there is two scum in that post, so why not?

If rdrivera was town, Ezio would have put himself at risk by counter claiming a town, then bussed both of his teammates who had voted with him each day. If Ezio got lynched D4, xorxes would be the next lynch, and when he flipped scum, I would be the next obvious lynch. I think this was there plan, and it looks like it is going to work.

This makes no sense, if I were scum he would be bussing both of his teammates after counterclaiming one of them. The plan was to lynch me and it almost worked.

I believe the plan was to get you or Ezio lynched and clear the other long enough to get one mislynch. xorxes was going to get lynched D4 and D5 so it made sense for both of you to bus xorxes, and obviously you were bussing each other with the competing claims. It makes a lot more sense than bussing both of his teammates while counterclaiming a town.

[rdrivera2005]

If rdrivera was town, Ezio would have put himself at risk by counter claiming a town, then bussed both of his teammates who had voted with him each day. If Ezio got lynched D4, xorxes would be the next lynch, and when he flipped scum, I would be the next obvious lynch. I think this was there plan, and it looks like it is going to work.

This makes no sense, if I were scum he would be bussing both of his teammates after counterclaiming one of them. The plan was to lynch me and it almost worked.

I believe the plan was to get you or Ezio lynched and clear the other long enough to get one mislynch. xorxes was going to get lynched D4 and D5 so it made sense for both of you to bus xorxes, and obviously you were bussing each other with the competing claims. It makes a lot more sense than bussing both of his teammates while counterclaiming a town.

In which universe this make sense, scum need one myslinch but instead of choosing a town to get myslinched they went for a complex plan bussing each other to win the game on lylo. If Ezio counterclaimed Xorxes or he were widely scumread it could make some sense, but I don't think he was a sure lynch.

[thamrick]

My gut all game has been that rdr is town. Hoping I'm not wrong.

The simplest explanation to me is that bozo is scum. ##VOTE bozo

[bozotheclown]

This makes no sense, if I were scum he would be bussing both of his teammates after counterclaiming one of them. The plan was to lynch me and it almost worked.

I believe the plan was to get you or Ezio lynched and clear the other long enough to get one mislynch. xorxes was going to get lynched D4 and D5 so it made sense for both of you to bus xorxes, and obviously you were bussing each other with the competing claims. It makes a lot more sense than bussing both of his teammates while counterclaiming a town.

In which universe this make sense, scum need one myslinch but instead of choosing a town to get myslinched they went for a complex plan bussing each other to win the game on lylo. If Ezio counterclaimed Xorxes or he were widely scumread it could make some sense, but I don't think he was a sure lynch.

Ezio counterclaiming you was just as likely to get himself lynched, probably more so since he was more widely scum read, and it did in fact get him lynched.

[DemonRHK]

VOTE COUNT 2.0

bozotheclown(2): rdrivera2005, Thamrick
rdrivera2005(1): bozotheclown

Not voted(1): bo_sox48

There are 45 minutes left in day 7.

bo_sox48 needs to cast a vote.

[bozotheclown]

My gut all game has been that rdr is town. Hoping I'm not wrong.

The simplest explanation to me is that bozo is scum. ##VOTE bozo

If you are town, you should realize that explanation is too simple. You said it yourself:

With brainbomb, xorxes, and ezio all scum, I'd consider there to be some pretty good mafia minds in the mafia QT. Why was Vecna killed? He was an outed useless PR. No doc to protect him. He would have been easy to kill at any point down the road. Why would they waste a NK on him when there was still a cop? Even if you assume they had a copread on Snowy and were planning on shooting him immediately with the Illusionist gun, why not go ahead and take another chance on NK'ing a secondary copread?

Do you really expect it to be simple and that xorxes, Ezio, and I always voted together as scum?

[thamrick]

So why do you think brainbomb, xorxes, ezio and (in your opinion) rdr killed Vecna? He was a useless PR role that had only posted 20 times, most of them lol'ing about his hipfire of Vash

[bozotheclown]

So why do you think brainbomb, xorxes, ezio and (in your opinion) rdr killed Vecna? He was a useless PR role that had only posted 20 times, most of them lol'ing about his hipfire of Vash

I assume because he was a town clear that they had to get rid of at some point. I find it odd because of yavuzovic implying he was the cop, but I do not see why it matters at this point.

[thamrick]

He voted for you D1, basically the only person to do so.

Im so happy I joined this game

<3 Jamiet

(still a bad lynch though)

Bozo tomorrow, no questions asked

so that makes for a scumteam of brwinbomb, bozo, ezio and some other shmuck.

[thamrick]

If they weren't scared of following the townclear's reads, I don't see why they would kill him. If you're town, why not try to NK a copread, shoot a copread, get you mislynched by following Vecna, and then NK him if he's still scumreading BB and Ezio when his credibility is lower after mislynching you.

[bozotheclown]

He voted for you D1, basically the only person to do so.

Im so happy I joined this game

<3 Jamiet

(still a bad lynch though)

Bozo tomorrow, no questions asked

so that makes for a scumteam of brwinbomb, bozo, ezio and some other shmuck.

Ezio had 4 votes and xorxes had 2 votes D1, do you think it likely that would be the reason to NK Vecna if I were scum? If I remember correctly, Vecna never even gave a reason why he suspected me.

[thamrick]

Yes actually. I think that would be a great reason. Brainbomb doesn't have the ability to play under the radar. Xorxes and Ezio were already taking heat. They'd need to have someone under the radar as the deep threat. NK'ing a townclear that has you as his top scumread seems like a pretty good way to keep you under cover.

[bozotheclown]

If they weren't scared of following the townclear's reads, I don't see why they would kill him. If you're town, why not try to NK a copread, shoot a copread, get you mislynched by following Vecna, and then NK him if he's still scumreading BB and Ezio when his credibility is lower after mislynching you.

The town could have still followed Vecna's read after he was NKed, if anything NKing Vecna would make town give his read more consideration, he was a town clear either way.