M69: Trapped in the Chipotle R&D Lab [HIDDEN]

[snowy801]

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[Hamilton Brian]

Nice of Kak to leave a reads list. Now I need to see where they put me. Mafia putting out a reads list…how much truth is there in it? Do they put at least 1 teammate in there as mafia for cred?

[ghug]

What in the good name of WebDip are you talking about?

From your point of view, Chipotle is evil.

[Hamilton Brian]

What in the good name of WebDip are you talking about?

From your point of view, Chipotle is evil.

Umm; not sure how to respond to this.

Will say that we’re posted up and full of cheese, meat, crackers, and beer. So…comments here unto tomorrow morning should be taken with that critical lense. I should actually get off the phone.

[Jamiet99uk]

Here are Kak's "reads" mid way through D, coloured for town/scum "reads":

1. Bob - he's investigative, he's natural, I have a great feeling about him, I ship him. I hope for a crispy relationship. My top townread.
2. bozo - close behind but not at the same level as bob, he also feels as typical bozo. Pretty much town
3. celaph - not as involved, but I liked his posts. A gap between him and bozo, but he would be the highest 'townish'
4. Vecna - I don't get the typical full town vibes from him, but I wouldn't vote him as it is.
5. damo - he started neutral, but I liked some of his recent posts, like he want to dig something up. That might be something else, but my bet is on a solid townish.
6. hamilton - from here we go into more neutral territory, but
7. RD - even when he is a lurker, I know his playstyle (somehow I think) and I respect RD as a person from the bottom of my heart. Anyway, if it wouldn't be RD he would be much lower, so please show more
8. ghug - feels not the typical ghug, maybe some meta change? please investigate him
9. worcej - getting a blank null from him,
10. foodcoats - not much seen, he seems to try, but I can't see much. normally he should do more?
11. snowy - doesn't feel good to me, though better than jamie.
12. jamie - don't feeling the jamie, somethings not right here.
13. macca - I don't like lurkers, I understand time issues, but at least try to do some effort. Only better than lfischl because I like the name.
14. lfischl - I don't like lurkers, can't see on much here
15. maniac - the one thing that looked good on him was made bad with his next posts, also that rush at the end like someone saved him, that doesn't look good

[Jamiet99uk]

So a strong townread on Bob, townreads on Bozo and Damo, and scumreads on me and Maniac, nearly everyone else null.

It also looks like he started to type something about Hamilton and then didn't finish it.

[Hamilton Brian]

13. macca - I don't like lurkers, I understand time issues, but at least try to do some effort. Only better than lfischl because I like the name.
14. lfischl - I don't like lurkers, can't see on much here
15. maniac - the one thing that looked good on him was made bad with his next posts, also that rush at the end
like someone saved him, that doesn't look good

[BobMcBob]

dangit, i wanted to like kak
i think i may actually do some digging into the way people treated kak this game and see if i can glean anything
also even after looking at kaks posts and the votes for him, i have no idea how the wagon took off that much
ill have to take a better look at that too

[bozotheclown]

Good work guys. I didn´t see it coming, Kak did a good job buddying me.

I guess this means Jamiet is town afterall.

Jamie did not have much choice but to vote for Kakarroto, the fact that you think this makes him town after apparently having a strong scum read of him makes me suspect you had prior knowledge that he was town.

[rdrivera2005]

Good work guys. I didn´t see it coming, Kak did a good job buddying me.

I guess this means Jamiet is town afterall.

Jamie did not have much choice but to vote for Kakarroto, the fact that you think this makes him town after apparently having a strong scum read of him makes me suspect you had prior knowledge that he was town.

Why Jamiet didn't have a choice? I wasn't around at EOD but looking at vote count if Jamiet stayed on lfischl with his double vote he would have been the DK instead of Kak or Jamiet. I suppose the three can be scum, but I don't think it's likely.

[bozotheclown]

Good work guys. I didn´t see it coming, Kak did a good job buddying me.

I guess this means Jamiet is town afterall.

Jamie did not have much choice but to vote for Kakarroto, the fact that you think this makes him town after apparently having a strong scum read of him makes me suspect you had prior knowledge that he was town.

Why Jamiet didn't have a choice? I wasn't around at EOD but looking at vote count if Jamiet stayed on lfischl with his double vote he would have been the DK instead of Kak or Jamiet. I suppose the three can be scum, but I don't think it's likely.

The momentum was for Kakarroto over lfischl, and Jamie had already questioned Kakarroto's vote for him and said he was willing to vote for Kakarroto, if Jamie had not moved to Kakarroto, he would be under suspicion for protecting Kakarroto (assuming Kakarroto would have flipped eventually).

[bozotheclown]

that 3P party push from jamie is just ridiculous, even as a non-native english speaker I'm confident that refers to a 'neutral party between the two of ghug and jamie'.

To the consolidation of votes regarding jamie: so I have the choice of a lurker, one of my bigger mafia reads, one of my highest townreads and a townish one; or go yolo solo.

So realistically, lfishl or jamie. While I do not like lfishls game, I think with what he has shown, jamie has a higher percentage of being mafia. ##vote jamie

furthermore, I want you all to inform, that I have today and tomorrow nightshift, so I'll miss EoD and EoN. I'll prepare myself to go to work right now and have a look back here before I go.

If Kakarroto had followed his EON reads list, lfischl would have been his choice over Jamie. He could have just voted for lfischl and probably not drawn the suspicion that he did, so maybe he did this because lfischl is mafia.

[ghug]

So a strong townread on Bob, townreads on Bozo and Damo, and scumreads on me and Maniac, nearly everyone else null.

It also looks like he started to type something about Hamilton and then didn't finish it.

How did you conclude your scumread was stronger than mine or lfischl's?

[ghug]

Jamie did not have much choice but to vote for Kakarroto, the fact that you think this makes him town after apparently having a strong scum read of him makes me suspect you had prior knowledge that he was town.

Why Jamiet didn't have a choice? I wasn't around at EOD but looking at vote count if Jamiet stayed on lfischl with his double vote he would have been the DK instead of Kak or Jamiet. I suppose the three can be scum, but I don't think it's likely.

The momentum was for Kakarroto over lfischl, and Jamie had already questioned Kakarroto's vote for him and said he was willing to vote for Kakarroto, if Jamie had not moved to Kakarroto, he would be under suspicion for protecting Kakarroto (assuming Kakarroto would have flipped eventually).

Bozo speaking truth to power.

[ghug]

Hi Macca

[TheMadMonarch]

If we mk someone else and these 2 are both town we could lose 4 town by EON.

If we mk one of these at least we save a town modkill.

But then we miss the opportunity of multiple scum deaths.

Maybe your right. I dunno. I'm confused now.

I just wish I had a proper scumread to vote for.

Like this post

We made a technical error in a previous game hoping for Macca to be modkilled when Macca was in fact lurking scum. Better not to base our decisions on a hypothetical modkill as this thinking could be abused by scum.

Let's not do that again, eh? Not while I'm on the good team at least.

[TheMadMonarch]

Hi Macca

Hello! Just reading through now.

[TheMadMonarch]

Macca may be scum even if Jamie is town. Their vote for me looked like they were fabricating a reason to vote for one of the top wagons before leaving for the day. I don't like that they could not remember who they agreed with.

##VOTE Macca

Like Bob, I am probably on my way out soon.

The snowy wagon just melted away, again.

As much as I dislike Jamie personally, I actually don't mind what he's doing this game, I do not think we should off him just yet.

For my own personal safety, I can not use a "kill lurkers" mindset, I really don't have any other reason to scrumread lfi.

Bozo. I did agree with the massclaim idea (but I am very gullible, so nai), but I remember reading something that someone (probably Jamie or Vecna, perhaps worcej) posted while I was silenced, that I began to agree with surrounding him.

So, as much as I would love to finish the job on snowy, I will ##VOTE bozo for now.

OMGUS with extra steps?

[TheMadMonarch]

THIS.

How about carrot?

Has Kakarrota done anything to lean scum, then? I mean, I think so but I'm re-reading both now, would like to hear your thoughts (and others')

I prefer not to DK Kakarrota because he posted the full reads list I requested right at EON, and I do not see much scum motivation for doing this considering how few players participated in my survey request.

Hard disagree here. I would have leapt at that opportunity if I was scum. Reads list are one of my scum tells (y'all forget this next game), they're easy, the don't need much reasoning, and you can keep them open as an easy means of remembering who you scumread.

[ghug]

Has Kakarrota done anything to lean scum, then? I mean, I think so but I'm re-reading both now, would like to hear your thoughts (and others')

I prefer not to DK Kakarrota because he posted the full reads list I requested right at EON, and I do not see much scum motivation for doing this considering how few players participated in my survey request.

Hard disagree here. I would have leapt at that opportunity if I was scum. Reads list are one of my scum tells (y'all forget this next game), they're easy, the don't need much reasoning, and you can keep them open as an easy means of remembering who you scumread.

Yeah I'm not a huge fan of this post but the point is solid. This feels way too human for bozo.

Bozo, why was this reads list so effective in pocketing you?