Mafia 86: Accidents Happen... - Game Thread

[BunnyGo]

i feel only barely sorry for you.

Just because your name has the word Go in it doesnt mean you have to actually do a Co fight with your own Godfather. play with fire you get scorched sometimes

Serious question for you:


What do you remember of my scum games. It’s been over a year, maybe even over 2 since I’ve been scum. So I’m curious what you recall. How you’d classify my style? My motivation

You are unimpressed enough with your own scum game youd
Play with reckless abandon-nothing to lose and see if you can get away with it by combining your own gimmicks you usually do with a way to mask truth, and throw in some inexplicable busses which have worked in recent meta in this forum for scum because plausible deniability rules supreme

Wow…


None of that is accurate.

[foodcoats]

i have smutty videos of that thing damo did at tesco once

Before or after Brexit?

It involved a ham steak and a conservative back bencher

Click here for more
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2784041

If anyone is confused ghug is pretending to be cop with a guilty on food
Food is pretending to have a doc claim at the ready

Bunnygo is GUILTY

And thats about it

I am not pretending anything. I know I am town, therefore if ghug claims he has a guilty read on me, he is scum. That’s why I said he can claim and then everyone can speed hammer me: we will catch ghug that way.

Further, ghug has not said he is pretending.

Stop spreading misinformation. Town has a great lead and we can win this. If you are town, you should not be sowing chaos.

[foodcoats]

i feel only barely sorry for you.

Just because your name has the word Go in it doesnt mean you have to actually do a Co fight with your own Godfather. play with fire you get scorched sometimes

Serious question for you:


What do you remember of my scum games. It’s been over a year, maybe even over 2 since I’ve been scum. So I’m curious what you recall. How you’d classify my style? My motivation

You are unimpressed enough with your own scum game youd
Play with reckless abandon-nothing to lose and see if you can get away with it by combining your own gimmicks you usually do with a way to mask truth, and throw in some inexplicable busses which have worked in recent meta in this forum for scum because plausible deniability rules supreme

Is this brainbomb describing his own scum game?

[BunnyGo]

Serious question for you:


What do you remember of my scum games. It’s been over a year, maybe even over 2 since I’ve been scum. So I’m curious what you recall. How you’d classify my style? My motivation

You are unimpressed enough with your own scum game youd
Play with reckless abandon-nothing to lose and see if you can get away with it by combining your own gimmicks you usually do with a way to mask truth, and throw in some inexplicable busses which have worked in recent meta in this forum for scum because plausible deniability rules supreme

Is this brainbomb describing his own scum game?

Maybe? Sure ain’t mine. I’m massively over impressed with my ability to play scum.

I play with no recklessness.


I rarely bus. But not never.

I can’t remember ever having a gimmick as scum.

[brainbomb]

Back at the NICU. Thank you for asking me my opinion and then telling me that my opinion could never be true.

And thank you foodcoats for whatever it is youre doing.

[brainbomb]

GUILTY
GUILTY

GUILTY






And

QUILTY

[foodcoats]

So if my math is right, there is no reason for cop!ghug (or an in-the-know town!brain) to withhold the guilty scan; we are likely 7v1 on D3 whether you claim now or hold until N2 (excepting lucky doc saves). I think you need to make clear what you know now rather than have us waste time on other things.

[foodcoats]

The logic still holds true if brain is cop and town!ghug wanted to throw a smokescreen.

If I’m wrong with the numbers please correct me, but I see no reason for the real cop or a townie to remain vague at this stage.

[BunnyGo]

Back at the NICU. Thank you for asking me my opinion and then telling me that my opinion could never be true.

And thank you foodcoats for whatever it is youre doing.

I wanted to understand your read on me.

You informed me that it's based on a fantasy world.

I pointed it out to maybe jog your memory and view of me.

But if nothing else, then I understand where you're coming from.

[brainbomb]

I dont have the interest to get angry over a game. this really isnt personal so if we can go ahead and not do this whole thing thatd be great.

I just wanna have fun and whatever ghug is-was doing is not a coordinated scum move. Thats all I can really say because I dont have a clue why hes doing whatever he is doing.

I think you are scum w bunny and will isnt off my radar either

[brainbomb]

Look within and theres a good chance good has an inno on me and was hoping for something spicier so he took my joking lead perhaps and ran with it.

[foodcoats]

Actually my numbers are wrong because it will be 7v1 at beginning of D4.

[foodcoats]

I dont have the interest to get angry over a game. this really isnt personal so if we can go ahead and not do this whole thing thatd be great.

I just wanna have fun and whatever ghug is-was doing is not a coordinated scum move. Thats all I can really say because I dont have a clue why hes doing whatever he is doing.

I think you are scum w bunny and will isnt off my radar either

Okay so just confirming you are saying you have no mechanical information, correct?

[Frogsterking]

@Frogsterking...

Is this a typical playstyle for you? Post the volume you did on D1 but withhold a vote until the last hour?

Do you believe there were bussers on Sweet? Who appears most likely to be that busser, and through what metrics?

The post volume is indicative of my town meta for sure; if anyone ever noticed a difference between my alignments based on how I used my vote then they never told me about it. I think I vote pretty differently based on my mood and what's going on in the game.

Yeah I think it's really, really unusual for scum to get run up D1 without any buddies onboard. I think it's ghug based on the metrics of who actually broke the tie between bunny and sweet. Vecna and chaqa came in when it was relatively undecided but ghug didn't move his vote over until it looked sure that sweet would go over anyway. So ghug appears to make choices with their vote that minimize the risk sweet will actually die while also being cognizant that it will look better to be on sweet post-flip.

I am going to try my best Frog, since there's some suspicion swirling around them.

1) How much time elapsed between your deciding to vote sweet and actually casting the vote?
2) What was your clear-cut 100 proof factor in Sweet's play that informed your decision that they were scum?
3) When you got your PM did you decide to distance or closely buddy your teammates? Which ones?
4) What is your biggest criticism of your D1 play? What was your reaction when Jamie suggested that your reads were coming too early in the game? Did that alter your plans?

1) That's a good question and I have a good answer:

My head hurts

Not finished with Will yet, but just wanted to clarify what I did like about his play, when I made that comment around page 20:

I really liked what seemed to be original Will critical thinking that I rarely see. His comments about Frog seemed to have some thought behind them (first post of page 18).

I also thought his comment on Page 19 was interesting because it seemed advanced. If we are dealing with scum Will, then I could now see it as a defense of a teammate (chaqa).

Oof

There was a window of opportunity between these two posts for sweet to post stuff that would convince me they were town or at least to wait or reconsider. When I wrote the second post at--ahem--"9:22 pm" I was determined to vote sweet and that window of opportunity for them was closed.

##vote sweetandcool

My vote comes down at "9:50 pm." So 28 minutes elapsed between me deciding to vote sweet and actually putting the vote down.

2) The factor was that I just played with them in M85 so it was obvious that they were playing differently, then reinforced when Will and ghug suggested that sweet was polarized and had been caught on D1 before. Here they seemed self conscious and try hardy but also vague and noncommittal. They seemed like they were only willing to post if they could think of the "right" thing to say. In M85 they were impulsive and blurted stuff out. Like on principle they fell on the wrong side of "cautious vs reckless" where town are noticeably more reckless than scum and they fell on the wrong side again of "reads vs reasons" where they were more concerned with reasons to have reads rather reads themselves. I don't know how aware I would have been if I hadn't just played M85, so I think that was "the" key factor.
3) Once I got my role PM I decided to buddy my teammates if I could figure out who they were. I also decided I was okay distancing from my teammates if it seemed necessary to figure out if they were in fact really my teammates.
4) Jamie's feedback that I was reading the game too quickly made me more determined to continue playing exactly in the way that I was. One thing it did change is that I was a little less worried about jamie's slot being scum again because they already sounded very unlike how they did in M85. I liked Jamie's feedback later on in D1 when they suggested I turn over as many rocks as I can and consider who I had trouble reading in M85 and who I was having trouble reading here.

[foodcoats]

I dont have the interest to get angry over a game. this really isnt personal so if we can go ahead and not do this whole thing thatd be great.

I just wanna have fun and whatever ghug is-was doing is not a coordinated scum move. Thats all I can really say because I dont have a clue why hes doing whatever he is doing.

I think you are scum w bunny and will isnt off my radar either

For the record I don’t think I’ve made anything personal. I think what are you doing is bad for town. It’s just business.

[brainbomb]

I dont have the interest to get angry over a game. this really isnt personal so if we can go ahead and not do this whole thing thatd be great.

I just wanna have fun and whatever ghug is-was doing is not a coordinated scum move. Thats all I can really say because I dont have a clue why hes doing whatever he is doing.

I think you are scum w bunny and will isnt off my radar either

For the record I don’t think I’ve made anything personal. I think what are you doing is bad for town. It’s just business.

Whatever your interpretation is of what im doing is wrong then. If you and bunny are any part of town you wouldve killed me over the scum godfather if youd had your way. That is by far much worse for town

[Hamilton Brian]

This is Dr. Foosier Croats… I’m listening.

If you are mafia, it would be unlikely you and sweetandcool would both vote for BunnyGo at the beginning of D1 if he was town.

Trying to work my way through this. If you aren't mafia, it would be likely you and sweet wouldn't both vote BunnY?

You obviously think Food is mafia, but are you also suggesting you think Bunny is teammate #3?

[foodcoats]

I’m going to bed, but I will leave you all with this odd series of events that brain claims is just… screwing around, I guess?

guilty
guilty
guilty
guilty
guilty

Ah man you should have held it a day.

sorry ghug. got too happy.

There have been multiple people that have crumbed PR. What the fuck is going on?

I'm the cop. I crumbed my scan result and soon brainbomb will announce it.

[foodcoats]

I dont have the interest to get angry over a game. this really isnt personal so if we can go ahead and not do this whole thing thatd be great.

I just wanna have fun and whatever ghug is-was doing is not a coordinated scum move. Thats all I can really say because I dont have a clue why hes doing whatever he is doing.

I think you are scum w bunny and will isnt off my radar either

For the record I don’t think I’ve made anything personal. I think what are you doing is bad for town. It’s just business.

Whatever your interpretation is of what im doing is wrong then. If you and bunny are any part of town you wouldve killed me over the scum godfather if youd had your way. That is by far much worse for town

I don’t quite know where to begin with this, probably because it is completely nonsensical. Perhaps you are spewing?

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

guilty
guilty
guilty
guilty
guilty

You are scum. I figured something out.

Explain.

I found it very likely this was investigator baiting.