MAFIA LVIII (58) - WITCHFINDER GENERAL - GAME THREAD

[Durga]

Bozo stop fucking quoting things and not giving any context it's irritating and spam-y

The context was a response to Vecna's question.

Would it kill you to explain what part you're talking about?

[summit_fever]

Welcome Bob; hope to hear plenty from you. We don't want a mis-kill.

Damn. Reminds me of your scum minigame.

oh, say more about this pls

You were in that game too. Just a feeling. **THIS QUOTE IS FROM A PREVIOUS GAME**

Thanks :)

##vote No[REDACTED] for today, I'm still too worried about making a mistake.

Yes, you and I, both. Mistakes, mistakes, mistakes. I’d hate to be party to the [REDACTED] of an innocent.

[Vecna]

Thanks for proving my point I guess

[Durga]

Gone shopping so won’t be around for a couple of hours. As much as I wanted to give Bob a chance, there’s things I find disconcerting. I’d feel confident to vote them.

Ahhh the lurking, don't do this HB

[e.m.c^42]

Starting a 10th wagon

##vote HamB

You know what, I think I will ##vote hamilton

He's been somewhat less aggresive than I recall his town game being, let's see if prodding will do anything.

[summit_fever]

##vote hamilton

[ghug]

Bozo stop fucking quoting things and not giving any context it's irritating and spam-y

[Durga]

Damn. Reminds me of your scum minigame.

oh, say more about this pls

You were in that game too. Just a feeling. **THIS QUOTE IS FROM A PREVIOUS GAME**

Thanks :)

##vote No[REDACTED] for today, I'm still too worried about making a mistake.

Yes, you and I, both. Mistakes, mistakes, mistakes. I’d hate to be party to the [REDACTED] of an innocent.

wow i love this observation summit, you're becoming one of my favourite people - and yeah i know i was in that game but my memory is s h i t

[Durga]

Bozo stop fucking quoting things and not giving any context it's irritating and spam-y

how much of my attention do you need??????

[e.m.c^42]

Hello boys and girls

A friend invited me to her lakehouse, so I havent been home or really checking the internets, but I'm back now.

Tl'DR on Yoyo wagon?

From a vote count analyis perspective, maybe resolving a BismarckEMC or damo flip to get more outof Day 1 makes sense?

Yoyo hasn't posted today and just got replaced. His replacement should either get lynched because he's scummy today or he should not get lynched.

Why in the hell would we use day 2 to try and get more info out of day 1, and why would you ask this instead of seeing if you can't find reason to scumread one of the other wagons from day 1?

My thinking is, usually Day 1 that involves TvT has a lot of people (typically scum) on one-off wagons or very minor wagons. Day 1 with such a close flip that was town and so many wagons makes me really think there was a scum up on the block, and if that's the case, EMC, Damo, and Yoyo/Bob make the most sense.

So, that said, the Yoyo/Bob wagon probably is fine too, and I'd vote for any of those three, and probably no one else. The only thing going against this theory is the HR kill, which I would expect someone from a wagon that isn't the main one to be killed (to protect my theorized scum in EMC/Damo/YoyoBob), but HR could just be a fearkill type situation.

Chaqa, my friend, did you sub in as scum this time? Lol. This post reads kind of...bleh, is it just me?

[flash2015]

Maybe! Worcej could very well be on a quest to better himself, like a Buddhist monk of WebDip Mafia... But I think the simpler explanation is scum meta (motivation to be less abrasive and obtrusive) versus town meta (lack of a need to control).

I could go along with this.

##VOTE worcej

pot/kettle, calling me out for latching on to the easy wagon and then he does this without explanation?

At the time, I liked Fox's reasons for worcej...and I do like to put down an early vote on someone rather than tempt fate like e.m.c.

You are actually good at this game. I expect more from you. I don't see you putting i the effort I have seen last games. It feels very surface level.

[Vecna]

Gone shopping so won’t be around for a couple of hours. As much as I wanted to give Bob a chance, there’s things I find disconcerting. I’d feel confident to vote them.

not confident enough to do it right now though, apparently.

Ill need to do some homework on HB's style in his towngames, because those quotes from Summit seem pretty close to his tone this game, with the ever apologetic approach. Thats not how I remember him at all.

[bozotheclown]

attack people for voting Bismarck

Pretty panicky

And summit appears again with one comment that is super super specific. I dont even understand the point he's trying to make, but it does show he's reading super carefully I guess, and is being very specific about the things he's responding to.

Summit, why is your free-posting so much lower than it used to be?

Why are you quoting random posts? What does any of these have to do with me attacking people over voting Bismarck?

This is what I said, then repeated, that I think you are referring to:

I do not have any strong scum reads yet, but I do not like Vecna and HR concentrating on the Bismarck wagon after helping kill BunnyGo. It makes me wonder if they already know Bismarck was town.

My top town reads are damo, Foxcastle, rdrivera, seth, summit, TrPrado, and Yoyoyozo, so I would look for the 5 scum in the remaining 10.

Why the Vecna vote Bozo? I've already asked Durga and he seems wildly townread.

I still find Vecna suspicious for voting for BunnyGo then questioning Bismarck voters when BunnyGo flipped town.

I did not say you were attacking players for voting for Bismarck, I said you were going after Bismarck voters N1. damo, summit, and I were 3 of the 4 Bismarck voter (flash was the fourth).

[seth24c]

If it was really town v town, which I think is probably the most likely at this point, I'd expect one or two scum to be on the two main wagons and the rest fucking off on the side, especially since I townread Durga and damo, who are the only people I can see really being saved by the main wagons. I don't share your opinion that scum are more likely to have been on Bunny than Bismarck.

I agree that it seems at this point to have probably been town v town and I also agree with the potential for 1-2 scum on the leading wagons. I also townread durga and damo. Which is interesting because the first vote on the bis wagon was bunny (who later moved his vote elsewhere), second was damo who I also townread, third was flash to make it 4 bunny v 3 bis (no reason for scum to do this right?, forth was bozo (another one who I townread) to make it a leading wagon, and fifth was summit, and then myself.

I don't see a reason any of those players (aside from maybe flash) would be jumping on the Bismarck wagon as scum since the bunny wagon was already in full swing. It is very possible I may be missing something but I feel much more confident of finding scum on the bunny wagon.

Why would I uniquely have been the scum on Bismark wagon?

I was stating both that I town read the others on the wagon more than you and that it didn't make sense for scum to jump on the wagon later in the hypothetical situation that both bis/emc and bunny were town. So the only spot that made sense to me for scum to jump on was in the place you did.

[damo666]

If we are going to kill a low information slot today, I would prefer it be someone other than Bob.

Which are the high info slots bozo?

[Vecna]

Bozo stop fucking quoting things and not giving any context it's irritating and spam-y

The context was a response to Vecna's question.

Would it kill you to explain what part you're talking about?

I confronted him that he keeps stating he scumreads me over attacking people because they voted Bismarck.

apparently he feels these quotes are proving how I totally did do that.

[bozotheclown]

Bozo stop fucking quoting things and not giving any context it's irritating and spam-y

The context was a response to Vecna's question.

Would it kill you to explain what part you're talking about?

Vecna said I was scum reading him for something he did not do, and I was giving examples of the thing I said he did, which was going after Bismarck voters N1.

[Durga]

The context was a response to Vecna's question.

Would it kill you to explain what part you're talking about?

I confronted him that he keeps stating he scumreads me over attacking people because they voted Bismarck.

apparently he feels these quotes are proving how I totally did do that.

christ i don't know what you two are going on about it but it feels pointless

[Vecna]

I could go along with this.

##VOTE worcej

pot/kettle, calling me out for latching on to the easy wagon and then he does this without explanation?

At the time, I liked Fox's reasons for worcej...and I do like to put down an early vote on someone rather than tempt fate like e.m.c.

You are actually good at this game. I expect more from you. I don't see you putting i the effort I have seen last games. It feels very surface level.

If youre going to make claims like this, give me some examples.

Because this is how I literally play every single game.... (but then again, every single game there is always someone throwing this exact argument at my face).

[bozotheclown]

If we are going to kill a low information slot today, I would prefer it be someone other than Bob.

Which are the high info slots bozo?

If you want to classify all slots as low or high, all slots except emc, flash, Hamilton, Chaqa, and Bob.