MAFIA 43 - GAME THREAD

[Durga]

VOTE COUNT 1.1
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Durga (1) - Vaporwave
Worcej (1) - Brainbomb
Vaporwave (1) - Squigs
Brainbomb (1) - Durga

Lots of time is left.

Can you post exact amount of time remaining from when this was posted

Why? Check the bot.

[brainbomb]

VOTE COUNT 1.1
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Durga (1) - Vaporwave
Worcej (1) - Brainbomb
Vaporwave (1) - Squigs
Brainbomb (1) - Durga

Lots of time is left.

Can you post exact amount of time remaining from when this was posted

Why? Check the bot.

id like it to be official

[Ezio]

##vote Ezio

testing for bot

[Squigs44]

George Eustice baby

Is this a claim on your role name?

[brainbomb]

George Eustice baby

Is this a claim on your role name?

yes

[Squigs44]

Squiggs if it makes you uncomfortable I wont reference the simumator here

Well you always tell us to not reference mafia in your sim, so its probably best to do the other way around to. It's more the fact that your spamming the thread that I find issue with.

[Squigs44]

Foxcastle, Vecna, RagingIke, are the three most lethal when scum

Like, how is this helpful? You are just filling the the thread.

[Ezio]

Def seems to me like the bot isn't working.

I'm gonna repeat: DO NOT CLAIM conservative or not. I think it's good for the 5 Liberal VT's to claim, but it is absolutely not a good idea for all conservatives to claim.

[Squigs44]

having been scum last game we were all decent players just didnt have team chemistry and town played so well we never really had anywhere to go. I would suggest that we use last games town effort as a template and anytime we have consensus guilty folks we maj hammer them. Having a desperado made town better able to keep momentum before during and after each phase. We can replicate that success by following that process with majjing instead of desperado shots

Lol, what? When we hammer the day ends. That doesn't give us any momentum and just cuts our day short limiting info. It also lets scum hammer a mislynch.

##Vote brainbomb

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 1.2
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Brainbomb (2) - Durga, Squigs
Durga (1) - Vaporwave
Worcej (1) - Brainbomb
Ezio (1) - Ezio

BRAINBOMB is set to be expelled from the Commons.

You are only a small part of the way through D1. Many, many hours remain.

NOTE: The bot is not counting votes, but it is keeping an accurate phase timer. I have messaged Peterlund. I like to give you Vote Counts anyway.

[Squigs44]

Def seems to me like the bot isn't working.

I'm gonna repeat: DO NOT CLAIM conservative or not. I think it's good for the 5 Liberal VT's to claim, but it is absolutely not a good idea for all conservatives to claim.

Why not?

[Ezio]

Def seems to me like the bot isn't working.

I'm gonna repeat: DO NOT CLAIM conservative or not. I think it's good for the 5 Liberal VT's to claim, but it is absolutely not a good idea for all conservatives to claim.

Why not?

It's net negative to town.

[Squigs44]

George Eustice baby

Is this a claim on your role name?

yes

Can someone who is more versed in British politics tell me if George Eustice is a back bencher or not?

[Squigs44]

Def seems to me like the bot isn't working.

I'm gonna repeat: DO NOT CLAIM conservative or not. I think it's good for the 5 Liberal VT's to claim, but it is absolutely not a good idea for all conservatives to claim.

Why not?

It's net negative to town.

Thanks. Can you elaborate? I laid out the reasons I think it helps town, why do you think it hurts town?

[Foxcastle]

Okay, I do not hate Xorxes proposals.

Vaporware gets some side-eye. The thing where he votes Xorxes, then Durga comments "yikes" and then he turns around and votes Durga could be a thing? But the rest of Durga looks pretty okay to me.

Can someone summarize vaporware's play in (I guess it would be) the last game, since I wasn't in it?

I do not like Bad Cop Squigs. The last time I was in a game with Bad Cop Squigs, I was scum and trying to get him lynched for it, but the truth I was using to do that was that Squigs hates rolling scum and believes he has too many tells, so he has motive to fake a persona.

Claimed conservative: Brainbomb, Xorxes, Durga.,

Claimed not-conservative: Squigs.

Xorxes second plan is shit. Nobody else claim conservative or not.

Why is it net negative for town? And do you think it's a bad idea, or a scum-motivated idea?

[ND]

I don't see how it is a net negative.

[Squigs44]

Okay, I do not hate Xorxes proposals.

Vaporware gets some side-eye. The thing where he votes Xorxes, then Durga comments "yikes" and then he turns around and votes Durga could be a thing? But the rest of Durga looks pretty okay to me.

Can someone summarize vaporware's play in (I guess it would be) the last game, since I wasn't in it?

I do not like Bad Cop Squigs. The last time I was in a game with Bad Cop Squigs, I was scum and trying to get him lynched for it, but the truth I was using to do that was that Squigs hates rolling scum and believes he has too many tells, so he has motive to fake a persona.

Claimed conservative: Brainbomb, Xorxes, Durga.,

Claimed not-conservative: Squigs.

Xorxes second plan is shit. Nobody else claim conservative or not.

Why is it net negative for town? And do you think it's a bad idea, or a scum-motivated idea?

Okay, so Fox admits he is doing the same thing he did when he was mafia. Probably town for that.

[Ezio]

Ok everybody I guess we need to talk about what makes a plan good in mafia.

For a plan to be effective, it needs to be impossible for mafia to fuck with it (if mafia fuck with it, their winrate goes down by more than letting the plan go through).

Think about how you would fuck up Xorxes plan if you were mafia. It's not difficult, and when you do it Xorxes plan has given town absolutely no information but has given scum information.

Compare it to the first plan. Think about how you would counter it as scum and what that would cost you.

[Foxcastle]

Okay, so Fox admits he is doing the same thing he did when he was mafia. Probably town for that.

Your attempt to both impugn me and to buddy me at the same time is not helping your case...

[Squigs44]

Ok everybody I guess we need to talk about what makes a plan good in mafia.

For a plan to be effective, it needs to be impossible for mafia to fuck with it (if mafia fuck with it, their winrate goes down by more than letting the plan go through).

Think about how you would fuck up Xorxes plan if you were mafia. It's not difficult, and when you do it Xorxes plan has given town absolutely no information but has given scum information.

Compare it to the first plan. Think about how you would counter it as scum and what that would cost you.

What info does it give mafia? The only thing mafia is after is PR's, and since there are 2 cons, 4 non-cons among PRs, it doesn't help much. Also, how does mafia screw with the plan? Either they lie or tell the truth, and both gives town info.