M1010 Mini-Mafia

[bozotheclown]

Your entire course of action relies on me being scum, and you have not considered any other alternatives. You are tunneling. You have intended nothing but to try to lynch me all day today, which explains why you spent what I have no doubt was hours compiling useless statistics about my former gameplay but have no consideration toward my play here. You have gone out of your way to avoid casting that vote until I was a viable wagon as you do not want to be the one who is considered the leader of this train when I am mislynched. But you will be, because I am making you the leader.

This is not true, I have independent reasons to suspect other players. You were the one who moved your vote off of Foxcastle when he was up 5-1, I was fine with flipping Foxcastle because of his overreaction to my vote for him.

But you would not vote for him when I flip town by your own admission, and you have nobody else on your radar also by your own admission. It is absolutely true.

Again, this is a misrepresentation of what I said. Asking who I would want to lynch D2 assuming you flip town is just trying to set me up.

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote worcej

What a lovely naked vote. So elegant and minimalist.

Tell us about Worcej.

[rdrivera2005]

I am staying on Bo and might not be around at EOD, I have a video meeting on 3 minutes.

[bo_sox48]

Excuse me?

Are you trying to make it look like I just naked voted you without explaining, or didn't ask you any questions?

Xorxes has also asked you questions.

Hmm.

You explained your vote. I don't remember you asking me any questions, but even if you have, ask me more. You're here, I'm here.

Hmm.

You must have seen my questions because you answered them.

Are you trying to copy Fluminator's behaviour from the previous game?

I didn't say I didn't see your questions. I said I don't remember you asking me any questions. I am not eidetic, and because I'm not eidetic I have no idea what "Fluminator's behavior" constitutes.

[bozotheclown]

Your entire course of action relies on me being scum, and you have not considered any other alternatives. You are tunneling. You have intended nothing but to try to lynch me all day today, which explains why you spent what I have no doubt was hours compiling useless statistics about my former gameplay but have no consideration toward my play here. You have gone out of your way to avoid casting that vote until I was a viable wagon as you do not want to be the one who is considered the leader of this train when I am mislynched. But you will be, because I am making you the leader.

This is not true, I have independent reasons to suspect other players. You were the one who moved your vote off of Foxcastle when he was up 5-1, I was fine with flipping Foxcastle because of his overreaction to my vote for him.

But you would not vote for him when I flip town by your own admission, and you have nobody else on your radar also by your own admission. It is absolutely true.

OK, I thought of a question for you. Why didn't you keep your vote on Foxcastle?

[bo_sox48]

This is not true, I have independent reasons to suspect other players. You were the one who moved your vote off of Foxcastle when he was up 5-1, I was fine with flipping Foxcastle because of his overreaction to my vote for him.

But you would not vote for him when I flip town by your own admission, and you have nobody else on your radar also by your own admission. It is absolutely true.

Again, this is a misrepresentation of what I said. Asking who I would want to lynch D2 assuming you flip town is just trying to set me up.

I have no interest in setting you up. I want to know what happens in your head the second you read that I flipped town. What's your next move? You should have one if you're not tunneling but you refuse to answer.

[bo_sox48]

This is not true, I have independent reasons to suspect other players. You were the one who moved your vote off of Foxcastle when he was up 5-1, I was fine with flipping Foxcastle because of his overreaction to my vote for him.

But you would not vote for him when I flip town by your own admission, and you have nobody else on your radar also by your own admission. It is absolutely true.

OK, I thought of a question for you. Why didn't you keep your vote on Foxcastle?

Because my vote on Foxcastle was unsubstantial and there was a massive wagon on him that I wasn't comfortable with, which I explained in detail.

[brainbomb]

##Vote worcej

What a lovely naked vote. So elegant and minimalist.

Tell us about Worcej.

He took about 37 hours to vote which is highly unworcej

[bo_sox48]

##Vote worcej

What a lovely naked vote. So elegant and minimalist.

Tell us about Worcej.

He took about 37 hours to vote which is highly unworcej

This is a great example of my point about brainbomb enjoying being snarky a lot more than he is enjoying trying to play the game.

[bozotheclown]

But you would not vote for him when I flip town by your own admission, and you have nobody else on your radar also by your own admission. It is absolutely true.

Again, this is a misrepresentation of what I said. Asking who I would want to lynch D2 assuming you flip town is just trying to set me up.

I have no interest in setting you up. I want to know what happens in your head the second you read that I flipped town. What's your next move? You should have one if you're not tunneling but you refuse to answer.

You asked me who is next, as if I should immediately start pushing someone to lynch D2. That is not what town should be doing when a town gets lynched, and you know that.

[brainbomb]

and he hedged on a lot of posts which ive not seem him do as much

[Jamiet99uk]

You explained your vote. I don't remember you asking me any questions, but even if you have, ask me more. You're here, I'm here.

Hmm.

You must have seen my questions because you answered them.

Are you trying to copy Fluminator's behaviour from the previous game?

I didn't say I didn't see your questions. I said I don't remember you asking me any questions. I am not eidetic, and because I'm not eidetic I have no idea what "Fluminator's behavior" constitutes.

So, you have forgotten answering them. I see. If your memory is that poor it's not very useful for you to complain about people not asking you questions.

Last game, Fluminator pretended he hadn't seen a whole load of my posts explaining my read on him. He later claimed he did this on purpose to get some kind of reaction out of me. It was all quite weird and made me scumread him when I had been townleaning him. Lol.

[bozotheclown]

But you would not vote for him when I flip town by your own admission, and you have nobody else on your radar also by your own admission. It is absolutely true.

OK, I thought of a question for you. Why didn't you keep your vote on Foxcastle?

Because my vote on Foxcastle was unsubstantial and there was a massive wagon on him that I wasn't comfortable with, which I explained in detail.

OK, I reread that, and you did not acknowledge that Foxcastle was getting votes because he claimed he was scum (and has not retracted his claim). Also, you said you thought he may be getting bussed by others, including me. If you thought he became a large wagon because he was getting bussed, doesn't that mean you think he is scum?

[bo_sox48]

You must have seen my questions because you answered them.

Are you trying to copy Fluminator's behaviour from the previous game?

I didn't say I didn't see your questions. I said I don't remember you asking me any questions. I am not eidetic, and because I'm not eidetic I have no idea what "Fluminator's behavior" constitutes.

So, you have forgotten answering them. I see. If your memory is that poor it's not very useful for you to complain about people not asking you questions.

Last game, Fluminator pretended he hadn't seen a whole load of my posts explaining my read on him. He later claimed he did this on purpose to get some kind of reaction out of me. It was all quite weird and made me scumread him when I had been townleaning him. Lol.

You're probably right that I should have looked back more clearly before insisting all of you ask more questions, but I was more focused on bozo.

[bozotheclown]

I'm not quitting and never was. I specifically informed Chaqa privately not to replace me. I'll go back and read that sequence again later on and bring forward something to say about it, but not tonight. It's good to see that a number of people are strongly opposed to people quitting. Thanks for the encouragement and/or slaps in the face lol.

It's a bit weird that multiple people have followed me onto Foxcastle, especially those who have done so under the assumption that I'm bussing. I didn't even have a reason for voting Foxcastle beyond a gut feeling that he might be playing with something up his sleeve. I wouldn't be shocked if he got piled on by his teammates, but unless Sarah is the greatest noob who has ever played, I don't think she piled onto her scum mate (or think that she's scum at all, for that matter). To that end, I think it's possible that any of bozo, Jamie, or brainbomb are piling on him, and it would make a strange bit of sense for someone to endhammer on their teammate if they think he's up for a lynch. I'm curious to see which of Jamie and brainbomb change their vote later, why, and whether or not they stick to their guns and nonchalantly try and hammer day 1.

Bozo, could you please explain your "case" on me in more detail, and perhaps explicate on whether you feel that that case stands up against any sort of scrutiny at all? The fact that I am willing to bus someone with my first vote (and, assuming that you're not lying, have done so twice with my first vote out of the last five games I was scum) doesn't mean much of anything. The fact that I'm posting more on day 1 than you apparently have come to expect doesn't mean much of anything. I can tell that you really think you're onto me with the amount of effort you're putting into researching, but I am also rather suspicious that you're tunneling on me, perhaps strategically to try and get me flipped early on and save your team a nightkill. To that end, if you're going to make a case on me, make it one with substance as opposed to one that you've clearly put way too much time but not enough thought into please.

Brainbomb has struck me as noncommittal this game, which is weird because usually brainbomb overcommits. I'm not building a case on D1 as there's no point in doing that, but I am voting for him and I'll probably stay there if there is any traction at all.

I'm around for an hour. Hit me.

##VOTE brainbomb

Here is the post where bo_sox says he does not like the Foxcastle wagon because Foxcastle may be getting bussed, which is contradictory.

[bozotheclown]

I didn't say I didn't see your questions. I said I don't remember you asking me any questions. I am not eidetic, and because I'm not eidetic I have no idea what "Fluminator's behavior" constitutes.

So, you have forgotten answering them. I see. If your memory is that poor it's not very useful for you to complain about people not asking you questions.

Last game, Fluminator pretended he hadn't seen a whole load of my posts explaining my read on him. He later claimed he did this on purpose to get some kind of reaction out of me. It was all quite weird and made me scumread him when I had been townleaning him. Lol.

You're probably right that I should have looked back more clearly before insisting all of you ask more questions, but I was more focused on bozo.

So you gave up trying to convince me you are town and just voted for me instead?

[bo_sox48]

Again, this is a misrepresentation of what I said. Asking who I would want to lynch D2 assuming you flip town is just trying to set me up.

I have no interest in setting you up. I want to know what happens in your head the second you read that I flipped town. What's your next move? You should have one if you're not tunneling but you refuse to answer.

You asked me who is next, as if I should immediately start pushing someone to lynch D2. That is not what town should be doing when a town gets lynched, and you know that.

What town should not be doing is tunneling on someone, and you have put significant effort into going after me for reasons outside this game but have still hesitated to try and get me lynched for reasons in this game. You have not put forth any effort until I forced you to do so and were comfortable sitting at the back of the line of people voting to mislynch.

Likewise, you should have an idea of where you are going to go if you're wrong. Things can change, but you should have a jumping off point. You don't, because you're tunneling and have no intention today other than lynching me.

[bozotheclown]

bo_sox saying he was moving his vote off of Foxcastle because it looked like Foxcastle was scum being bussed does not make much sense and makes a bo_sox/Foxcastle scum team look more likely.

[Foxcastle]

I think both Bo and Bozo are town.

I think BunnyGo is a better wagon today.

[bo_sox48]

So, you have forgotten answering them. I see. If your memory is that poor it's not very useful for you to complain about people not asking you questions.

Last game, Fluminator pretended he hadn't seen a whole load of my posts explaining my read on him. He later claimed he did this on purpose to get some kind of reaction out of me. It was all quite weird and made me scumread him when I had been townleaning him. Lol.

You're probably right that I should have looked back more clearly before insisting all of you ask more questions, but I was more focused on bozo.

So you gave up trying to convince me you are town and just voted for me instead?

I was a lot more interested in convincing you to do some self-reflection on the path you had gone down, and I wanted you to do that by asking me questions, seeing my satisfactory answers, and considering that the information you have gone out and acquired has very little to do with my play this game. I explained to xorxes that there were two options - either you're getting better and despite going down the wrong road are thinking critically and creatively with the intent to solve the game, or you're scum and are working on a plan to quietly mislynch someone you are afraid of and think you're going to have to nightkill otherwise. Over the course of this interaction, my opinion has evolved. I have proven that I have an open mind. Feel free to take advantage of that and prove me wrong.