M62: PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF REVOLUTIONARY MAFIA GAME THREAD!

[bozotheclown]

Explanation?

Visited emc N1 and didn't say that when he made up hypo-jails


Which is also a huge pointer about him being smuggler, because that's the only scum PR with a reason to lie about who they visit (seeing as they can only visit teammates)

Well, the questionnaire was who you would visit if you were jailer, not who would you visit if you had a night role. My answers are specifically what I would do if I was jailer, not what I'd actually done during the night phases, so I don't see how he's caught in a scumtrap here 100%.

That said, we're so far ahead it's not the worst thing to vote on. Jamie then Bunny?

What had you done during the night phases?

[Chaqa]

Ok fuck Chaqa, he's scum for seeing what was going on and not posting his two picks. But y'all deal with him later.

I'm anxious to keep this game going. So, player X lied about their visits, so we have 2 or 3 scum. We'll know when we flip player X today if they're smuggler or informer or whatever. Jailer does not need to claim, congrats jailer!

If I actually caught 3 scum in 2 days I'm soooo sorry loooool

I saw a big post with names, wasn't quite sure what the idea was. I was playing Among Us and Jackbox last night and then working on the D&D campaign I'm starting tonight so I'm a little behind.

Why is there a near-unanimous Yoyo wagon? What did I miss?

Durga pointed this out D3, when you claimed you picked that one post to comment on from a part of the game you claimed you had not read because it was a "big post with names".

I assumed it was some sort of bozo-esque survey, wanted a TL;DR. You need to stop trying to ask me about things that happeend two weeks ago. I don't even remember what I had for breakfast yesterday.

[Chaqa]

Visited emc N1 and didn't say that when he made up hypo-jails


Which is also a huge pointer about him being smuggler, because that's the only scum PR with a reason to lie about who they visit (seeing as they can only visit teammates)

Well, the questionnaire was who you would visit if you were jailer, not who would you visit if you had a night role. My answers are specifically what I would do if I was jailer, not what I'd actually done during the night phases, so I don't see how he's caught in a scumtrap here 100%.

That said, we're so far ahead it's not the worst thing to vote on. Jamie then Bunny?

What had you done during the night phases?

Nothing. I'm a VT.

If I said strictly I had done nothing I'd have outed myself as a VT to scum, minimizing the PoE for them. Why would I do that?

[bozotheclown]

I saw a big post with names, wasn't quite sure what the idea was. I was playing Among Us and Jackbox last night and then working on the D&D campaign I'm starting tonight so I'm a little behind.

Why is there a near-unanimous Yoyo wagon? What did I miss?

Durga pointed this out D3, when you claimed you picked that one post to comment on from a part of the game you claimed you had not read because it was a "big post with names".

I assumed it was some sort of bozo-esque survey, wanted a TL;DR. You need to stop trying to ask me about things that happeend two weeks ago. I don't even remember what I had for breakfast yesterday.

Did you know Durga had said the players she scanned had already answered when you responded?

[Chaqa]

Durga pointed this out D3, when you claimed you picked that one post to comment on from a part of the game you claimed you had not read because it was a "big post with names".

I assumed it was some sort of bozo-esque survey, wanted a TL;DR. You need to stop trying to ask me about things that happeend two weeks ago. I don't even remember what I had for breakfast yesterday.

Did you know Durga had said the players she scanned had already answered when you responded?

No.

[Chaqa]

I'm not sure what grilling me on all of this is supposed to achieve.

It seems like you're just hitting me with every little comment I've made the entire game trying to catch me not remembering something 100% accurately, which would not be out of character, in order to convince kgray to vote for me.

If you're town, then the last scum is kgray.

Likewise, if kgray is town, you're the last scum.

At the moment, kgray makes way more sense to me as town.

##Vote Bozo

[Chaqa]

I can't recall if I've ever been in a final three in mafia before, so I'm not sure how much discussion we need to do at this point. I've looked over what I believe to be the relevant information several times throughout the past few days and my conclusion is that Bozo is the last scum.

I don't really think I'm going to change the vote unless there's a smoking gun against Kgray or she literally admits it or scumslips.

[bozotheclown]

I'm not sure what grilling me on all of this is supposed to achieve.

It seems like you're just hitting me with every little comment I've made the entire game trying to catch me not remembering something 100% accurately, which would not be out of character, in order to convince kgray to vote for me.

If you're town, then the last scum is kgray.

Likewise, if kgray is town, you're the last scum.

At the moment, kgray makes way more sense to me as town.

##Vote Bozo

The smuggler, assuming there is one, would have had to be careful about how to answer Durga's survey, so your avoiding answering her survey when you first found out about it looks suspicious.

[bozotheclown]

I can't recall if I've ever been in a final three in mafia before, so I'm not sure how much discussion we need to do at this point. I've looked over what I believe to be the relevant information several times throughout the past few days and my conclusion is that Bozo is the last scum.

I don't really think I'm going to change the vote unless there's a smoking gun against Kgray or she literally admits it or scumslips.

What is the relevant information?

[Chaqa]

I can't recall if I've ever been in a final three in mafia before, so I'm not sure how much discussion we need to do at this point. I've looked over what I believe to be the relevant information several times throughout the past few days and my conclusion is that Bozo is the last scum.

I don't really think I'm going to change the vote unless there's a smoking gun against Kgray or she literally admits it or scumslips.

What is the relevant information?

VCA, metas, playeer reads

[bozotheclown]

I can't recall if I've ever been in a final three in mafia before, so I'm not sure how much discussion we need to do at this point. I've looked over what I believe to be the relevant information several times throughout the past few days and my conclusion is that Bozo is the last scum.

I don't really think I'm going to change the vote unless there's a smoking gun against Kgray or she literally admits it or scumslips.

What is the relevant information?

VCA, metas, playeer reads

That is rather vague.

[Chaqa]

What is the relevant information?

VCA, metas, playeer reads

That is rather vague.

I've done more in-depth posts several times. You've gone back and arbitrarily picked out other posts of mine, you can find them

[dargorygel]

##GM NOTE
Vote Count
Bozotheclown (2): Kgay, Chaqa
Chaqa (1): bozo

Bozo has twice the number of votes that Chaqa has acquired.

Much Time Left

[Chaqa]

##GM NOTE
Vote Count
Bozotheclown (2): Kgay, Chaqa
Chaqa (1): bozo

Bozo has twice the number of votes that Chaqa has acquired.

Much Time Left

lol that typo

[kgray]

I was saying that the final scum could not leave the Damo wagon because if/when Damo was caught, it would implicate them. This is what I had some lingering suspicions of ghug for, and it’s similar to what you did with teacon on Day 1. On the Damo wagon, whichever of you is the last scum had to stay on it or else get implicated once he flipped later

I still don't know why you think that scum couldn't do that, and yet you're suspicious of me for doing exactly that on D1, but okay.

If you're town, then from your POV the last scum was actively pushing for damo's flip. bozo and I were both driving that wagon pretty consistently D5, and were encouraging others to get on it. Which of us do you think looks more like we were busing?

I mean, my point is more that I find it suspicious that Bozo is discounting that possibility. I think he's scum more so than you right now, but it's mostly because I have a meta read that you're town. Plus, ghug thought you were town and Flum thought Bozo was scum, and they're probably better players than me lol

Pretty much every recently-dead townie scumread bozo more than either of us. It doesn't mean they're right, but it's hard to ignore.

[kgray]

In this hypothetical scenario, the risk would be of you figuring out I am scum.

That doesn't seem to be more of a risk than keeping celaph around, who was already scumreading you, when I was actively defending you for most of the game. Especially when I've made my high opinion of your late-game solving skills pretty well known. If I townread you and you're scumreading whoever else is in the final 3, seems pretty likely that I don't vote for you...

So are you going to vote for Chaqa then?

lmao I'm not exactly townreading you bozo

[kgray]

I still don't know why you think that scum couldn't do that, and yet you're suspicious of me for doing exactly that on D1, but okay.

If you're town, then from your POV the last scum was actively pushing for damo's flip. bozo and I were both driving that wagon pretty consistently D5, and were encouraging others to get on it. Which of us do you think looks more like we were busing?

I mean, my point is more that I find it suspicious that Bozo is discounting that possibility. I think he's scum more so than you right now, but it's mostly because I have a meta read that you're town. Plus, ghug thought you were town and Flum thought Bozo was scum, and they're probably better players than me lol

I am not discounting the possibility, but it seems she would avoid doing that D1 for exactly what you said about damo D5, it would implicate her to leave teacon's wagon.

You were not discouraging Chaqa from thinking that I did this when he was scumreading me for it earlier, though. At the time you agreed with him and scumread me for it too.

[kgray]

What is the relevant information?

VCA, metas, playeer reads

That is rather vague.

Have you met Chaqa?

[bozotheclown]

I mean, my point is more that I find it suspicious that Bozo is discounting that possibility. I think he's scum more so than you right now, but it's mostly because I have a meta read that you're town. Plus, ghug thought you were town and Flum thought Bozo was scum, and they're probably better players than me lol

I am not discounting the possibility, but it seems she would avoid doing that D1 for exactly what you said about damo D5, it would implicate her to leave teacon's wagon.

You were not discouraging Chaqa from thinking that I did this when he was scumreading me for it earlier, though. At the time you agreed with him and scumread me for it too.

As I said, I have been going back and forth on this, and it has become WIFOM to me. I have come around to thinking you would not do something that looked that suspicious D1 as scum, even if it saved teacon and Vecna gave you an excuse.

[bozotheclown]

VCA, metas, playeer reads

That is rather vague.

Have you met Chaqa?

I think disinterest and lack of participation is generally scum indicative for Chaqa, especially D1. Look at M60, where Chaqa was a lot more active D1, and M55 where he was particularly active as the Neighborizer.