MAFIA 48 -The Gladiator- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 48 -The Gladiator- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2681 Post by Vecna » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:52 pm

You make them do it on seperate days genious.

EMC tells us if he got challenged, and then redirects the challenge where we want it to go.

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#2682 Post by yuuki » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:54 pm

yuuki wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:51 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:43 pm
because counter-claiming a gladiator is massive +ev for them if they do it properly to get an extra nightkill?

CC gladiator, make it believeable, challenge someone, win, then expend the gladiator to suicide on the obvious bodyguard target.

I really wasnt looking forward to having some weird CC battle between like Rdrivera and xorxes or whatever, and then having to deduce who is bullshitting.

If a cc happens, they use it on the survivor or you lynch the shit out of them.
You still don't get it. If they are CCing the role they would also CC the challenge on survivor. There is no 4th challenge.
Also, by doing it this way we are having to use the challenges to supersede the secondphase of a vote n order to protect worcej, effectively costing us regular lynches. The benefit of the mechanic is to get extra lynches and those lynches should come in the first half of the phase.

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#2683 Post by Vecna » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:55 pm

goddamn, I almost still wanna do this massclaim thing

With how obvious certain VT's are, itd be like shooting fish in a barrel

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#2684 Post by Vecna » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:57 pm

yuuki wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:54 pm
yuuki wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:51 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:43 pm
because counter-claiming a gladiator is massive +ev for them if they do it properly to get an extra nightkill?

CC gladiator, make it believeable, challenge someone, win, then expend the gladiator to suicide on the obvious bodyguard target.

I really wasnt looking forward to having some weird CC battle between like Rdrivera and xorxes or whatever, and then having to deduce who is bullshitting.

If a cc happens, they use it on the survivor or you lynch the shit out of them.
You still don't get it. If they are CCing the role they would also CC the challenge on survivor. There is no 4th challenge.
Also, by doing it this way we are having to use the challenges to supersede the secondphase of a vote n order to protect worcej, effectively costing us regular lynches. The benefit of the mechanic is to get extra lynches and those lynches should come in the first half of the phase.
Instead of being negative nancy all the time, can you just put that effort to use to try and find holes and improve the plan?

Youre not winning any ego contests or whatever here.

And yes, were trying to use worcej to the max and doing as much dmg to scum in those 3 days, and hopefully find the damn emperor before then so worcej becomes truely immortal

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#2685 Post by yuuki » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:00 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:55 pm
goddamn, I almost still wanna do this massclaim thing

With how obvious certain VT's are, itd be like shooting fish in a barrel
Like who? The only really obvious one we had is Vaporwave who will be dead very soon.


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#2687 Post by yuuki » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:02 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:57 pm
yuuki wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:54 pm
yuuki wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:51 pm


You still don't get it. If they are CCing the role they would also CC the challenge on survivor. There is no 4th challenge.
Also, by doing it this way we are having to use the challenges to supersede the secondphase of a vote n order to protect worcej, effectively costing us regular lynches. The benefit of the mechanic is to get extra lynches and those lynches should come in the first half of the phase.
Instead of being negative nancy all the time, can you just put that effort to use to try and find holes and improve the plan?

Youre not winning any ego contests or whatever here.

And yes, were trying to use worcej to the max and doing as much dmg to scum in those 3 days, and hopefully find the damn emperor before then so worcej becomes truely immortal
If worcej challenges emc, can he challenge again?

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#2688 Post by Vecna » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:03 pm

plenty of other townread people that are quite possibly vt's as well.

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#2689 Post by Vecna » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:03 pm

yuuki wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:02 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:57 pm
yuuki wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:54 pm


Also, by doing it this way we are having to use the challenges to supersede the secondphase of a vote n order to protect worcej, effectively costing us regular lynches. The benefit of the mechanic is to get extra lynches and those lynches should come in the first half of the phase.
Instead of being negative nancy all the time, can you just put that effort to use to try and find holes and improve the plan?

Youre not winning any ego contests or whatever here.

And yes, were trying to use worcej to the max and doing as much dmg to scum in those 3 days, and hopefully find the damn emperor before then so worcej becomes truely immortal
If worcej challenges emc, can he challenge again?
he has two challenges

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#2690 Post by yuuki » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:03 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:02 pm
Jamiet?
A guy who could very well have been saved by scum on D2? How is he obvious town?

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Re: MAFIA 48 -The Gladiator- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2691 Post by yuuki » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:03 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:03 pm
yuuki wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:02 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:57 pm


Instead of being negative nancy all the time, can you just put that effort to use to try and find holes and improve the plan?

Youre not winning any ego contests or whatever here.

And yes, were trying to use worcej to the max and doing as much dmg to scum in those 3 days, and hopefully find the damn emperor before then so worcej becomes truely immortal
If worcej challenges emc, can he challenge again?
he has two challenges
I mean on the same day

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#2692 Post by Vecna » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:06 pm

he can only challenge once every day.

Bro, role pm's are all on page 1.

I know theres a lot of information, but go read em a few times more so you know whats going on.

Im not your secretary. And with all these sharp stances youre taking, it would help if you were at least properly informed.

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#2693 Post by Vecna » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:07 pm

oof, this game couldve been almost over if I just wouldve brute forced this massclaim thing through

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#2694 Post by Vecna » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:08 pm

DARGORYGEL

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

were breaking your setup.

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Re: MAFIA 48 -The Gladiator- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2695 Post by yuuki » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:10 pm

yuuki wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:03 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:03 pm
yuuki wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:02 pm


If worcej challenges emc, can he challenge again?
he has two challenges
I mean on the same day
Because the ideal play here happens if worcej is able to transfer both of his challenges today to emc and we just do a regular lynch. D4 1st half emc can use the challenge to get us an extra lynch. D5 1st half he can use the second one. If mafia think there is a possibility he transferred both they are more likely to not thumbs down worcej right away since revealing one of their own allows for more information to town very early. worcej can take a gambit here on whether he transfers both or not but he should definitely say he did and emc corroborate that he did.

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Re: MAFIA 48 -The Gladiator- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2696 Post by yuuki » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:11 pm

Vecna wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:06 pm
he can only challenge once every day.

Bro, role pm's are all on page 1.

I know theres a lot of information, but go read em a few times more so you know whats going on.

Im not your secretary. And with all these sharp stances youre taking, it would help if you were at least properly informed.
I read and understood it as a challenge can only happen once per day, but I was not sure if it meant he could not attempt to challenge twice which is a different thing.

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Re: MAFIA 48 -The Gladiator- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2697 Post by Chaqa » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:11 pm

Does this forum have a mute function because I would love that.

I agree with ADR claiming and challenging. I say challenge one of Cara, Percy, and Tem.

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Re: MAFIA 48 -The Gladiator- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2698 Post by yuuki » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:13 pm

yuuki wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:11 pm
Vecna wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:06 pm
he can only challenge once every day.

Bro, role pm's are all on page 1.

I know theres a lot of information, but go read em a few times more so you know whats going on.

Im not your secretary. And with all these sharp stances youre taking, it would help if you were at least properly informed.
I read and understood it as a challenge can only happen once per day, but I was not sure if it meant he could not attempt to challenge twice which is a different thing.
Because it says you may only challenge one player per day. Theoretically he could challenge the same player twice in the same day which is what I',m arguing for.

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Re: MAFIA 48 -The Gladiator- GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#2699 Post by Vecna » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:14 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:11 pm
Does this forum have a mute function because I would love that.

I agree with ADR claiming and challenging. I say challenge one of Cara, Percy, and Tem.
with my plan, we can challenge -2- of them.

and still have a nice showdown with votes between them that might have meaning

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#2700 Post by Vecna » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:16 pm

Regardless of whether this ends up working, im feeling like smug fucking hannibal here.

Sigar stuffed in my face, all dignified n shit

I love it when a plan comes together

(even if it couldve been so much more beautiful - we cant always get what we want)

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