Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[foodcoats]

You spelled powerthief wrong.

No, I legit think he is the Human playing for lylo to win. You will never be able to lynch him unless you really believe he is scum (I mean, the same could be said for everyone) and he has an excuse why he wont be killed as the game goes on.

I think it's most likely EP is the Human. That is why they claimed/counterclaimed and why darg's defense was limp AF while EP was the pinnacle of erudition and poise. I also think worcej is likely scum and pushed Chaqa to try to drive the cow target onto the wagon and make a super-ultra-combo turn. Chaqa happening on D4 provided breathing room for the tracker claiming and also gave time for town to get fat and lazy on two scum lynches in a row, making it more likely town would give up on the fact that EP is still obviously scum.

If I understand correctly, if we mislynch today it's MyLo tomorrow, so I don't want to get distracted from the fact that it just makes absolutely no sense for EP to be town. I don't know why anyone would vote for worcej instead.

[EspressoPatronum]

You spelled powerthief wrong.

No, I legit think he is the Human playing for lylo to win. You will never be able to lynch him unless you really believe he is scum (I mean, the same could be said for everyone) and he has an excuse why he wont be killed as the game goes on.

I think it's most likely EP is the Human. That is why they claimed/counterclaimed and why darg's defense was limp AF while EP was the pinnacle of erudition and poise. I also think worcej is likely scum and pushed Chaqa to try to drive the cow target onto the wagon and make a super-ultra-combo turn. Chaqa happening on D4 provided breathing room for the tracker claiming and also gave time for town to get fat and lazy on two scum lynches in a row, making it more likely town would give up on the fact that EP is still obviously scum.

If I understand correctly, if we mislynch today it's MyLo tomorrow, so I don't want to get distracted from the fact that it just makes absolutely no sense for EP to be town. I don't know why anyone would vote for worcej instead.

Ok, if you're convinced worcej is scum who tried getting town on the wagon, who did worcej try to recruit to the wagon but ended off the wagon?

Foodcoats is obvscum btw

##vote Foodcoats

[EspressoPatronum]

From this

Welp. The whole thing is WIFOM as fuck but on balance I think EP is more likely to be scum here than not.

##VOTE EspressoPatronum

To this

...making it more likely town would give up on the fact that EP is still obviously scum.

Notice how he's been way more active now than past day starts? I bet mafia decided they needed to start strong in the day to make sure town didn't forget about obvscum!EP.

[EspressoPatronum]

From this

Welp. The whole thing is WIFOM as fuck but on balance I think EP is more likely to be scum here than not.

##VOTE EspressoPatronum

To this

...making it more likely town would give up on the fact that EP is still obviously scum.

Notice how he's been way more active now than past day starts? I bet mafia decided they needed to start strong in the day to make sure town didn't forget about obvscum!EP.

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[foodcoats]

Ok, if you're convinced worcej is scum who tried getting town on the wagon, who did worcej try to recruit to the wagon but ended off the wagon?

Foodcoats is obvscum btw

##vote Foodcoats

My thoughts on worcej are a lot more speculative, which is why I am voting for you.

[Jamiet99uk]

Seriously though - I went with the Jamie plan change to present the fact to you all during D6 because it was clearly in the best interest of Jamie to be questionable instead of confirmed. Now you're going to have to debate whether he is scum or not in lylo/mylo going forward.

Oracle could make a clear/scum, so him targetting Percy was the best out to avoid a Chaqa situation - where his possible scum claim in the end ruined him.

This doesn't make a great deal of sense to me. What "fact" are you claiming you are presenting?

[xorxes]

@Espresso, you think worcej is town? Is his reaction here more like misunderstood town or like resigned scum?

[Jamiet99uk]

Yesterday lots of people were willing to believe that EP and Darg might BOTH be scum.

Why is there no pressure, and no wagon, on EP today?

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm still willing to ##VOTE ESPRESSO

[EspressoPatronum]

I'm doing a foodcoats ISO summary rn. Get rdy for some bombshells

[EspressoPatronum]

@Espresso, you think worcej is town? Is his reaction here more like misunderstood town or like resigned scum?

He's town

[EspressoPatronum]

Foodcoats' ISO.
My comments in this colour.
PLEASE read this. I know it's long, but it's way shorter than his ISO.

The big takeaways:
1. Foodcoats has NEVER been on a town mislynch wagon. He has ALWAYS been on the scum flip wagons. Huge redflag for scum trying to appear towny.
2. His reads are hedgy and he doesn't have many townreads. Redflag so he can keep mislynch options open
3. He consistently tried to cast doubt on roles verifiable in a few days. Most noteworthy is his consistent pushes on xorxes.
4. He was an early and active supporter of the SvS theory between me and darg.
5. He lied about his reasoning for voting me yesterday. He backtracked and voted for darg.

D1 - tied vote
- EMC vote
- not sure if massclaim is good, but praises bozo for setting up a framework
- townlean on fox, bozo, Vecna
- notes that worcej's play this game is "Irreverant. Bombastic."
- votes worcej
- Votes EMC. Says he thinks EMC is scummy. says he isn't voting bcz of emc policy.

N1 - Vecna death
- says there's one scum in Jamie, bozo, Percy, Vapor [note - the last 2 are dead]
- scales back his bozo town read:
"I feel like I must be missing something with bozo here... but maybe that is my bias towards his/her style"

***

D2 - EMC lynch
- says we should follow Vecna's reads. [note - they're all dead now]
- says Percy is scummy but things will be resolved later
- votes damo
- votes Chaqa
- Townleans darg. calls out darg lurking, but says he likes darg's posts
- scumreads EP
- says we're unlikely to make it to D7 to prove xorxes' claim (@xorxes)
- throws more shade on xorxes but townreads him anyway
- votes Chaqa again

N2 - rdrivera death
- apologizes for tunneling EMC [note - he wasn't on the EMC wagon D2!!]
- calls out Chaqa's lurking
- OMGUS ISOs bo_sox... scumlean on bo_sox
- calls worcej sensitive

***

D3 - Vapor lynch
- "xorxes' claim really bothers me." Votes xorxes
- [u[Tries to lowkey discredit the masons: "So what exactly did Fox and Hosuke's posts prove? "[/u]
- his 4 scumreads for bozo's list: Chaqa, bo_sox, worcej, xorxes [note - notice how Chaqa is first? He wants us to see Chaqa as a scumlean. He's voting for xorxes at this point btw]
- Defends me against Jamie's janitor theory: "...EP thought there were only 5 roles for 5 scum. Therefore the janitor would always be in play."
- calls me a "Smokelord, Master of Deduction"
- votes for EP
- goes BACK to voting xorxes
- says he likes bozo's list and we should follow it.
- votes for bo_sox [note - bo_sox was not the top of the list. Foodcoats isn't following the list]
- Votes for me because he doesn't want to waste a vote
- Says he doesn't like the Vapor wagon
- says a bunch of words that shows he doesn't understand the power of a smokescreen [hint: I don't think any of the scum understood it... that's why they all screwed it up]

N3 - damo death
- shades the reads of xorxes and bozo

***

D4 - Chaqa lynch
- says we need to lynch EP and darg [note - this is his FIRST post of the day]
- votes for me instead of darg
- claims naked mole rat, VT
- votes for Chaqa "I don't agree with lynching Chaqa, that's a weird backwards bird in hand/two in the bush thing."

N4 - BB/Tom death
- Says good job for lynching Chaqa

***

D5 - darg lynch
- Votes for darg. Says he'll read over the CCs.
- "Maybe I'm wrong on this. ##VOTE EspressoPatronum" [Note - this is so hedgy is sickening]
- Says we lynch both bcz SvS
- shades the DP smokescreen theory
- asks Percy why he keeps voting bozo
- "bo you asked earlier why I switched to EP for no reason... I wanted to balance it and see if anyone would swing the wagons. Instead we got a pretty good dog pile." [this does not appear consistent with his play earlier in the day. I think he's backtracking bcz ppl didn't side against me]

N5 - Percy death
- Sets up an obvious trap question... "So the only conceivable reason for EP to be town is that it was a misplay by scum.So... how are Chaqa and dargorygel reckoned as players." [note - if you answer yes, you're essentially calling Chaqa and darg bad players]

***

D6 - current
- starts out the day hard and fast to revive the push on me
- shades worcej for being manipulative [note - he's protecting Jamie]

[EspressoPatronum]

Oof, that colour of blue is pretty hard to read. My bad.... I'm sure you guys can figure it out.

[EspressoPatronum]

Lol, the bot picked up my quote of foodcoats' vote on me. I am not actually voting for myself!

##Vote foodcoats

[EspressoPatronum]

I would be happy to vote foodcoats or Jamie today.

Bo_sox and bozo are worth considering tomorrow depending on the flip of foodcoats/Jamie.

Aside from confirmed town, my strong town reads are thus:
xorxes - I might as well treat him as a confirmed. Either he confirms tomorrow or he gets lynched tomorrow.
worcej - he seems like a towny floundering around without answers. This is exactly how I feel. He's also trying (trolling aside) + he's helped us a lot so far.

null
flash - he's not posting enough

In sum, by POE, the scum are in foodcoats, Jamie, bo_sox, bozo, and maybe flash.

[Jamiet99uk]

Well it ain't me.

[EspressoPatronum]

Well it ain't me.

What do you think about foodcoats?

[worcej]

Come on just lynch me now and get it over with!

[worcej]

@worcej, you would be more believable as town if you stopped talking mechanics and started talking players and their actions.

If you truly believe I'm scum, then I will be lynched tomorrow. If you think Jamiet is scum with me, maybe find some connections between us so that town lynches him right after they see my flip. And find who the most likely third partner is. If you find a convincing argument you may even convince town to lynch them instead of you today. You can't just give up with more than 40 hours left in the day if you're town. That's what dargo did and we were right about him.

I don’t care what you are xorxes. It will be revealed. I have spent zero effort reading you because of this.

I don’t care to convince anyone of anything anymore. I am giving up because I want to not be around at mylo to be mislynched then. If you scum me now, based on how I have played, just get it over with.

Seeing as you wont end, I will go with this. ##vote Jamie

[flash2015]

@Espresso, you think worcej is town? Is his reaction here more like misunderstood town or like resigned scum?

He's town

Why do you think he is town?