Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

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Re: Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

#4721 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:58 pm

xorxes wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:56 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:39 pm
I somewhat figured based on how the discussions went that this would be the result. Because of that, I actually would like to propose the following: We should lynch Jamie.

While my original plan had the flaw of if Percy was scum, it would result in a flip on Jamie no matter what. Jamie's modified plan had only one weakness - that if Percy died it was completely moot. Now he has built into a defense for himself that he should not be flipped because he targeted Percy.

I think it is relatively convenient to want to drive the plan, like he did, towards this outcome. Scum!Jamie's hands were forced to have to kill Percy this way while providing an out for himself now for D6.

Beyond that, I've just felt off on Jamie this game. Hard to explain, but it doesn't seem like the normal town!Jamie performance.

Thoughts anyone?
I'm pretty sure Jamie is scum, so I wouldn't object too strongly if people wanted to lynch him today.

However, you know perfectly well he won't be lynched today because mechanically it makes sense to wait one more day on the off chance that he is telling the truth about being the Oracle. Since you know that the lynch won't happen today, my theory is that you are proposing it to gain towncred in case he gets lynched before you do, or to give Jamie towncred after your flip.

I think ##VOTE worcej is the correct lynch today. He is the most likely of my main suspects to have the double vote.

@worcej, who would you want to lynch today if there's no traction for Jamie?
Other than Jamie, I think some pressure or force needs to be put on food and flash. I think they have successfully been a non-factor most of this game. Food just downplayed and misquoted to show that Jamie presented an opposite plan to my original, which leaves him questionable and not Percy being questionable.

I do think Jamie has a strong chance of being scum. He is more detached today than normal games, especially when he is town.

I think EP is also town, but you can never be certain yet. I think focus should be on others such as flash and food before jumping at him.

Bozo is probably town, but just bad ideas. If he is scum, oh boy this is a good job selling the bad town theories.

Bo is possibly town, but he has been too distant for my liking. Just a feeling, no good evidence otherwise.

You (xorxes) will be figured out D7. So it is what it is honestly with you.

Fox/Hosuke are what they are.

Ultimately, I am a distraction at this point because people already assume I am scum with no regard to what I have actually done. I am fine dying to make others, noticeably Fox, try harder. I still take credit for Chaqa to my grave,
so you’re welcome.

This is probably my last post because I am not going to put any more effort in to convince you otherwise. I have done enough already and you just don’t care. Or you just only see scum alignment in it.

Just get it over with.

##vote worcej
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#4722 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:00 pm

Alright, correction:

Jamie is not specifically detached only today - it is this game in general.

Now I am done. If I left that out, I would feel bad since he is in the hospital and such.


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#4724 Post by flash2015 » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:06 pm

I think this is an act. ##VOTE worcej

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#4725 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:14 pm

Foxcastle wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:06 pm
My song is playing.

##VOTE WORCEJ
flash2015 wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:06 pm
I think this is an act. ##VOTE worcej
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:56 pm
##VOTE worcej
You're missing the hammer.

Seriously, just get it over with - I want to be in the GT sooner to figure out if I have the game right or not.

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#4726 Post by foodcoats » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:16 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:55 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:51 pm
Sorry, what I was trying to say is, it looks like worcej helped along to make Jamie's oracle plan be accepted, and then swooped in at start of day to say the plan that they crafted together points to Jamie being scum. That makes worcej look really scummy to me, it looks like worcej is trying to trap Jaime.
It is more likely worcej is starting to bus Jamie.
I understand you scumread both of them, but why would scum!worcej bus scum!Jamie this way? Literally right out of the gate? I am much more inclined to think they can't both be scum with worcej shading Jamie this way.

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#4727 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:17 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:16 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:55 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:51 pm
Sorry, what I was trying to say is, it looks like worcej helped along to make Jamie's oracle plan be accepted, and then swooped in at start of day to say the plan that they crafted together points to Jamie being scum. That makes worcej look really scummy to me, it looks like worcej is trying to trap Jaime.
It is more likely worcej is starting to bus Jamie.
I understand you scumread both of them, but why would scum!worcej bus scum!Jamie this way? Literally right out of the gate? I am much more inclined to think they can't both be scum with worcej shading Jamie this way.
Don't bother. They made up their minds already.

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#4728 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:19 pm

I can't help myself. I'll still troll post along, but won't make any overextending effort to try to present all the townie things I have already done that apparently are scum read no matter what.

Scum Probs:
Jamie
Food/Flash (maybe both?)
Bo (just a feeling, least confident of the group)

Excluding xorxes intentionally because never needed to read him since D7 was coming for sure.

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#4729 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:20 pm

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#4730 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:21 pm

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#4731 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:21 pm

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#4732 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:21 pm

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#4733 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:21 pm

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#4734 Post by EspressoPatronum » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:22 pm

worcej wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:39 pm
I somewhat figured based on how the discussions went that this would be the result. Because of that, I actually would like to propose the following: We should lynch Jamie.

While my original plan had the flaw of if Percy was scum, it would result in a flip on Jamie no matter what. Jamie's modified plan had only one weakness - that if Percy died it was completely moot. Now he has built into a defense for himself that he should not be flipped because he targeted Percy.

I think it is relatively convenient to want to drive the plan, like he did, towards this outcome. Scum!Jamie's hands were forced to have to kill Percy this way while providing an out for himself now for D6.

Beyond that, I've just felt off on Jamie this game. Hard to explain, but it doesn't seem like the normal town!Jamie performance.

Thoughts anyone?
Agreed. There's a chance Jamie is scum. If we're wrong and he's town, we still get the benefit of his Oracle power. It's pretty much win/win.

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#4735 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:22 pm

Need another ~80 posts to pull off my beat BB's post count goal. Hammer or get ready for spam to ruin the day.

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#4736 Post by EspressoPatronum » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:23 pm

foodcoats wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:46 pm
Jamie does not strike me as the manipulative one in this series of events.
It didn't matter what worcej said... Percy was dying tonight no matter what. Why are you trying to make it look like worcej got Percy killed?

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#4737 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:24 pm

EspressoPatronum wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:22 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:39 pm
I somewhat figured based on how the discussions went that this would be the result. Because of that, I actually would like to propose the following: We should lynch Jamie.

While my original plan had the flaw of if Percy was scum, it would result in a flip on Jamie no matter what. Jamie's modified plan had only one weakness - that if Percy died it was completely moot. Now he has built into a defense for himself that he should not be flipped because he targeted Percy.

I think it is relatively convenient to want to drive the plan, like he did, towards this outcome. Scum!Jamie's hands were forced to have to kill Percy this way while providing an out for himself now for D6.

Beyond that, I've just felt off on Jamie this game. Hard to explain, but it doesn't seem like the normal town!Jamie performance.

Thoughts anyone?
Agreed. There's a chance Jamie is scum. If we're wrong and he's town, we still get the benefit of his Oracle power. It's pretty much win/win.
Wrong only because Jamie targeted Percy (his claim) so you get nothing.

Scum team could easily see my lynch is coming, so you have to gamble he is town on mylo which you cannot do. His change versus my own ensured he would be questionable.

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#4738 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:24 pm

EspressoPatronum wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:23 pm
foodcoats wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:46 pm
Jamie does not strike me as the manipulative one in this series of events.
It didn't matter what worcej said... Percy was dying tonight no matter what. Why are you trying to make it look like worcej got Percy killed?
EP - stop revealing my scum plans.

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#4739 Post by worcej » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:25 pm

My grand master plan as scum was to bus one of my last teammates since I knew I was doomed. This has to be the only possible case since I am scum no matter what.

Right?




Right?

































































Right?

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#4740 Post by EspressoPatronum » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:27 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:25 pm
As an update, I am probably having surgery tomorrow rather than tonight. I'll participate where and when I can.
Good luck. Hope you have a swift recovery!

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