Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

I don't remember worcej getting so aggressive in previous games. I don't know if that's his scum meta or not, but I had him as much more jovial, which he has been at times, but then suddenly his chain snaps.

Accurate - my chain snapped this game with Fox's sudden 'worcej is 100% scum', the lack of people getting on board (at least publicly) to chaqa, and then bozo for whatever the hell this game has been from him.

I was more jovial on D1 before most of this happened imo.

[worcej]

How would you have reacted if I assumed we had the ant? Would you have said I have insider knowledge and I am therefore scum?

No, because that assumption would be incorrect. I might think it was possibly a fake town slip.

So you'd scum read me for correctly factoring in an assumption if maybe not having ant. If I assumed there was an ant, you would assume I was faking a town slip (i.e. scumread me).

If your scumread of me is truly predicated on this post, you need to rethink the read. Your conclusion was always going to be scum!EP, so my post is NAI at best.

If you're scum looking for BS reasons to scumread me, please carry on. Some fruitful areas have been my hidden intel on the janitor, my whole team crumbing tracker, and now my hidden intel that darg was the hooker all along. Any of those are better than your reason rn.

IMO - the proper thing to assume is they do have an ant, but at least deciding their is no ant and presenting it for an analysis is definitely NAI. It's just an analysis.

[worcej]

Guys, there is a possibility that Tracker is a fakeclaim role and both Espresso and Darg are scum and one is the Cow, and they have done this purposefully so that one of our town clears will blow themselves up on (likely) Darg.

So as far as I can tell, Chaqa was the first to suggest the idea of 2 scum trackers. Maybe the mafia knew dargorygel would get lynched over the real tracker, but planned to try to get them both lynched.

Planting doubt and trying to get a mislynch is highly likely. I think this is a good catch that I will try to also confirm myself.

[worcej]

It seems like bo_sox could be setting up the question that Chaqa answers with the scum vs. scum option. Espresso addresses it after only Chaqa and bo_sox hacve talked about it as far as I can tell. I think foodcoats is the fourth to mention it.

They may have written about it first, but I came to that idea independently of anything they had said. I was waiting for the Tracker to claim because I was pretty sure the Tracker was going to be part of the fakelist. When we got not just one but two claims I was very happy.

The fact that they both claimed to have chosen me to track was also interesting, as wasting a track on a self-verifiable claim was rather pointless.

Glass-half empty analysis: your early play was rather meh and if town continued to free-fall, the game could've been over before D7.

[worcej]

It seems like bo_sox could be setting up the question that Chaqa answers with the scum vs. scum option. Espresso addresses it after only Chaqa and bo_sox hacve talked about it as far as I can tell. I think foodcoats is the fourth to mention it.

They may have written about it first, but I came to that idea independently of anything they had said. I was waiting for the Tracker to claim because I was pretty sure the Tracker was going to be part of the fakelist. When we got not just one but two claims I was very happy.

The fact that they both claimed to have chosen me to track was also interesting, as wasting a track on a self-verifiable claim was rather pointless.

You're forgetting about the narrative at the time that we'd lose before we got to D7, making your claim irrelevant. I can't remember who was saying it, but I recall reading several posts about it.

I should probably stop posting as I read... usually people beat me to the punch on some of these.

[worcej]

Guys, there is a possibility that Tracker is a fakeclaim role and both Espresso and Darg are scum and one is the Cow, and they have done this purposefully so that one of our town clears will blow themselves up on (likely) Darg.

So as far as I can tell, Chaqa was the first to suggest the idea of 2 scum trackers. Maybe the mafia knew dargorygel would get lynched over the real tracker, but planned to try to get them both lynched.

Could have also been looking for towncred in the event town saw through the plan down the road, figuring that with the counterclaim he was mathematically safe. He was clearly surprised that we chose to lynch him.

Chaqa and his team should've realized the problem with claiming Lover. I am thankful that indeed it was a scum role for them to claim because it did net Chaqa into mathematically needing to be killed regardless of reads.

[worcej]

I don't think I've said it this game yet, but most games lately I've said that the best way to find scum is to take worcej's reads and reverse them. The interesting thing is that town worcej always replies by agreeing with that assessment. Town worcej is easygoing and self-deprecating. This game we have an aggresive and self-aggrandizing worcej. He also hasn't had any significant reads that I can use to guide me with, he has mostly spent his time on mechanics. If there is a double-vote, I'd say worcej has it. He picked the safest of their fake roles and he was saved by most of the scumteam on D3.

The issue with the normal 'take it and reverse it' is I am actively trying to be better. The mechanics conversations were dismissed by me early when we had little information to go off of, but with the reveal of roles as we trucked along, it was essential to begin factoring them in.

I mean, I did scum Vapor hardcore. I scumm'ed EP over darg. I guess reverse still works?

[EspressoPatronum]

They may have written about it first, but I came to that idea independently of anything they had said. I was waiting for the Tracker to claim because I was pretty sure the Tracker was going to be part of the fakelist. When we got not just one but two claims I was very happy.

The fact that they both claimed to have chosen me to track was also interesting, as wasting a track on a self-verifiable claim was rather pointless.

You're forgetting about the narrative at the time that we'd lose before we got to D7, making your claim irrelevant. I can't remember who was saying it, but I recall reading several posts about it.

I should probably stop posting as I read... usually people beat me to the punch on some of these.

I actually like it when people post as they read. It feels more natural + I don't mind if they end up repeating things already said.

[flash2015]

So as far as I can tell, Chaqa was the first to suggest the idea of 2 scum trackers. Maybe the mafia knew dargorygel would get lynched over the real tracker, but planned to try to get them both lynched.

Could have also been looking for towncred in the event town saw through the plan down the road, figuring that with the counterclaim he was mathematically safe. He was clearly surprised that we chose to lynch him.

Chaqa and his team should've realized the problem with claiming Lover. I am thankful that indeed it was a scum role for them to claim because it did net Chaqa into mathematically needing to be killed regardless of reads.

Chaqa is a good player. I suspect he probably did this on purpose hoping that he would get lynched and so he could use his cow power.

[EspressoPatronum]

I don't think I've said it this game yet, but most games lately I've said that the best way to find scum is to take worcej's reads and reverse them. The interesting thing is that town worcej always replies by agreeing with that assessment. Town worcej is easygoing and self-deprecating. This game we have an aggresive and self-aggrandizing worcej. He also hasn't had any significant reads that I can use to guide me with, he has mostly spent his time on mechanics. If there is a double-vote, I'd say worcej has it. He picked the safest of their fake roles and he was saved by most of the scumteam on D3.

The issue with the normal 'take it and reverse it' is I am actively trying to be better. The mechanics conversations were dismissed by me early when we had little information to go off of, but with the reveal of roles as we trucked along, it was essential to begin factoring them in.

I mean, I did scum Vapor hardcore. I scumm'ed EP over darg. I guess reverse still works?

The hilarious part is you also townread Chaqa but advocated for his lynch because of the lover math.

Hmm, who are your top 3 unconfirmed townreads right now?

[flash2015]

I am fine with the modified plan...though it falls apart if Percy is really the cop and gets NK.

[worcej]

I am fine with the modified plan...though it falls apart if Percy is really the cop and gets NK.

Yes, it does lol...

[worcej]

I don't think I've said it this game yet, but most games lately I've said that the best way to find scum is to take worcej's reads and reverse them. The interesting thing is that town worcej always replies by agreeing with that assessment. Town worcej is easygoing and self-deprecating. This game we have an aggresive and self-aggrandizing worcej. He also hasn't had any significant reads that I can use to guide me with, he has mostly spent his time on mechanics. If there is a double-vote, I'd say worcej has it. He picked the safest of their fake roles and he was saved by most of the scumteam on D3.

The issue with the normal 'take it and reverse it' is I am actively trying to be better. The mechanics conversations were dismissed by me early when we had little information to go off of, but with the reveal of roles as we trucked along, it was essential to begin factoring them in.

I mean, I did scum Vapor hardcore. I scumm'ed EP over darg. I guess reverse still works?

The hilarious part is you also townread Chaqa but advocated for his lynch because of the lover math.

Hmm, who are your top 3 unconfirmed townreads right now?

For the lawlz and definitely my most current:
Jamie
Bo
bozo

I wish this site had a similar !remind function like reddit does - I really want to go back to this to see if it was true or not...

[Foxcastle]

It should be pretty obvious that if Percy doesn't die tonight, he's scum. But then, the scum team could very well make us lynch Jamiet to prove it. In that case, I'm probably dead, so I can only tell you to go through with the plan.

Worcej is still scum. Lynch him. (I could see him leaving me alive and NK'ing ItsHosuke to sow doubt, but it won't work.)

Espresso and Flash after that. Foodcoats on the outside chance. (I'd put Jamiet on the outside chance, but I think he's solidly town at this point and even if he's not lynched tomorrow to complete the plan, he should be lynched before the endgame to create a clear or identify scum anyway...)

[Nephthys]

PHASE HAS ENDED PLEASE HOLD

On mobile so please be patient

[Nephthys]

We resume our story with our lovely band of heroes. Their ranks growing as they spread the word of the imminent doom about to befall them all. Unfortunately the long days of travel were taking their toll. Some were not as dedicated to the cause as others.

Tortoise, "Why can't we just take a break? It's not like we're gonna miss the European summer at this rate, just enjoy the trip AND the destination."

Kangaroo, "You fuckin wat m8?"

Hawk, "You do realise that we're actively trying to save the world so we can enjoy future summers all around the world?"

Pallas Cat, "Relax brothers, the tortoise is old and slow, he just fails to absorb the gravity of the situation."

Following this the Tortoise sighed and rolled onto his back for a nap. What no-one heard over the sound of his snoring was the cries of the last stick-insect, crushed beneath his weathered body.

Percy Williams has died, he was the STICK INSECT, the ROLE COP

Day 6 has begun, you may now post

[Jamiet99uk]

RIP Percy.

Did he say who he was scanning?

[foodcoats]

Vote Tortoise

[foodcoats]

RIP Percy.

Did he say who he was scanning?

I don't see it, don't think he got back from work in time.

[Foxcastle]

Is your reveal still set to Percy, Jamiet?