Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[worcej]

You're right, I pushed EMC. I propose we suspend this game until a truth & reconciliation committee can be convened to examine how and why that happened, to process our differences, not to assign blame but to accept responsibility, and emerge a stronger, more resilient community. After that, we will repeat the process of healing for Vapor's mislynch. Because that's the point of this game.

Anyway, the rest of it is all just so much noise, as we've continued to see from Worcej. I will say I've had a busy few days, but also being townclear is not so much as I imagined, nor motivating as I thought it would be. I apologize to the rest of you, but not to worcej, for lower participation.

NB: I don't actually think I'm good at this game. So I really do recommend you find a different avenue to try to manipulate me than my ego.

And I note that you accept that there's nothing you could say to dissuade me from this scumread. You're right. I'm not looking for you to say something. I'm looking for you to do anything that's townie.

So pushing for Chaqa to be lynched to ensure his Lover claim did not actually kill town in Mylo and beyond was scummy? Outlining a good strategy to resolve EP/Darg while also presenting ways to resolve Jamie, Percy, and Xorxes was also scummy?

All I am seeing is you are saying me trying to solve this game is scummy. Facts and paths to known scum be damned, you want to gamble because you're bored?

[EspressoPatronum]

We'll get Dargo tomorrow. So we're fine on timing. But bold victories demand bold moves, and lynching Worcej is way more informative than processing Dargo/EP today.

I'd rather you sort the 50/50 tbh. It's going to dominate discussion tomorrow just like it did today.

[worcej]

I'm changing my vote to avoid any scum fuckery from occurring on this vote.

##vote darg

The sad thing is I know it's actually town fuckery that will ruin it...

[EspressoPatronum]

Oh look Vecna scumreads me just like he does every single game.

I love old fashioned nostalgic things. Ceefax, Angel Delight, Monster Munch, shell suits, Vecna scumreading me, Watney's Red Barrel, Crackerjack.... ah, the warm fuzzy memories of my youth.

Lover, Oracle, Divine Presence, okapi, Tracker?

An okapi is a bit monstrous, isn't it?

I think Jamie was crumbing multiple scum roles. If so, and shell suit was crumbing tracker, both tracker claims are fake, but if shell suit was crumbing tortoise (absorber), one tracker claim is real.

Good catch. This could explain why nobody claimed absorber.

[EspressoPatronum]

On a separate note:
Flash, Food, and Percy have posted less than Vecna did on D1/N1. I'll give Percy a pass because he can be figured out, but I find the lack of involvement from either Flash and Food to be suspicious.

Why? There isn't much to say here.

Find or make opportunities to say something. If you're town, it helps the rest of the town sort you.

[foodcoats]

I'm changing my vote to avoid any scum fuckery from occurring on this vote.

##vote darg

The sad thing is I know it's actually town fuckery that will ruin it...

What scum fuckery were you worried about?

[worcej]

I'm changing my vote to avoid any scum fuckery from occurring on this vote.

##vote darg

The sad thing is I know it's actually town fuckery that will ruin it...

And in an attempt to be towny for some of you:

Darg/EP need to be resolved while we can make a mistake. If we make a mistake, we can immediately correct it on D6 and also make it to D7 with chances to resolve Percy and xorxes to create more clears or get more scum.

I truly believe EP is more scummy than darg, but I don't know about darg himself. But the lynch has to be one of them or we are dangerously close to losing.

[worcej]

I'm changing my vote to avoid any scum fuckery from occurring on this vote.

##vote darg

The sad thing is I know it's actually town fuckery that will ruin it...

What scum fuckery were you worried about?

A tied vote.

[worcej]

I'm changing my vote to avoid any scum fuckery from occurring on this vote.

##vote darg

The sad thing is I know it's actually town fuckery that will ruin it...

What scum fuckery were you worried about?

A tied vote.

And to provide more context, tying here results in 7-4 on D6 which is mylo on D6. I would rather get EP/Darg wrong and know to fix it on D6 instead of having to guess again.

[flash2015]

On a separate note:
Flash, Food, and Percy have posted less than Vecna did on D1/N1. I'll give Percy a pass because he can be figured out, but I find the lack of involvement from either Flash and Food to be suspicious.

Why? There isn't much to say here.

Find or make opportunities to say something. If you're town, it helps the rest of the town sort you.

The only thing that has happened today, at least from my reading, is about worcej and whether he softed Oracle or not. With the risks of cow/lover gone in no way shape or form should we be lynching anyone other than darg or you today. Let's get this over with first.

[Jamiet99uk]

Looking at who is left to vote, and what they have read of me, I expect to be miss lynched this afternoon. Well played espresso. The catch of chaqa messed up your plans I hope. Tomorrow it is time to mass announce. Suspect anyone who fights that. Scum have figured out the unclears I expect. This is what they were after. I shouldn't have countered right away. Good luck town, see you in the God thread.

@DARGORYGEL

Please list the players who still need to announce their role?

[Foxcastle]

Why? There isn't much to say here.

Find or make opportunities to say something. If you're town, it helps the rest of the town sort you.

The only thing that has happened today, at least from my reading, is about worcej and whether he softed Oracle or not. With the risks of cow/lover gone in no way shape or form should we be lynching anyone other than darg or you today. Let's get this over with first.

Do you think he softed Oracle? Do you find that compelling? Why or why not?

[Jamiet99uk]

Flash looking more scummy rn

[EspressoPatronum]

Why? There isn't much to say here.

Find or make opportunities to say something. If you're town, it helps the rest of the town sort you.

The only thing that has happened today, at least from my reading, is about worcej and whether he softed Oracle or not. With the risks of cow/lover gone in no way shape or form should we be lynching anyone other than darg or you today. Let's get this over with first.

He and I were talking about all game, not just today.

He was saying that Vecna had more posts (and words) from D1+N1 than you do from D1-now.

You responded by saying there wasn't much to talk about.

I responded by saying you need to find or make things to talk about.

You misunderstood my advice as being for today only.

[flash2015]

Flash looking more scummy rn

Why?

[flash2015]

Find or make opportunities to say something. If you're town, it helps the rest of the town sort you.

The only thing that has happened today, at least from my reading, is about worcej and whether he softed Oracle or not. With the risks of cow/lover gone in no way shape or form should we be lynching anyone other than darg or you today. Let's get this over with first.

Do you think he softed Oracle? Do you find that compelling? Why or why not?

He effectively did say he softed it:

"I did try to soft it to try to draw the NK. I also wanted to show that I didn’t mind being mislynched early, which is true. As one of the few VTs in this setup, I felt my job was to protect PRs any way possible. Sacrificing myself is one way to do this."

Then he claims that he didn't soft Oracle:

"There was never an actual claim to be Oracle. It was in these posts I tried to make it clear that I didn't care about dying: "

Then he said he did it for a different reason:

"The point of these posts were to catch someone reacting to me not caring about my death. What role doesn't care about dying? The Oracle. Who reacted? Really only Bo - bet you can't guess what I think he is?"

Then he gets all angry (fake or worcej being worcej?)...and then tries to get the focus off him by saying "wait - look over there!" It certainly isn't a good look and we should definitely be thinking about lynching him tomorrow. But not today!!!

[flash2015]

Let's see that we are right with today's lynch. One thing at a time...

[bo_sox48]

So in your mind, flash, if today’s claimant lynch is scum, the other is certainly not?

[flash2015]

So in your mind, flash, if today’s claimant lynch is scum, the other is certainly not?

It is possible. It would be a bold strategy for two scum to claim tracker...give up one so that the other gets townread. And it would have been easy to fake claim tracker since by D4 there were no other remaining town PRs to mess up the fake claim (e.g. watcher, commuter, jailer were gone). However, I don't currently have other reasons to scumread EP at the moment...but of course let's see what happens with the lynch first.

[bozotheclown]

Lover, Oracle, Divine Presence, okapi, Tracker?

An okapi is a bit monstrous, isn't it?

I think Jamie was crumbing multiple scum roles. If so, and shell suit was crumbing tracker, both tracker claims are fake, but if shell suit was crumbing tortoise (absorber), one tracker claim is real.

Good catch. This could explain why nobody claimed absorber.

That is not as likely, since both DP and absorber went unclaimed.