Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

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Percy Williams (3): worcej, bozotheclown, flash2015
Jamiet99uk (2): xorxes, Foxcastle
xorxes (2): Jamiet99uk, brainbomb
flash2015 (1): damo666
ItsHosuke (1): foodcoats
Unvote (1): ItsHosuke

Chaqa has now met the posting requirement

[xorxes]

The masons can very easily prove to us they're town: they post the exact same longish thing at the exact same time which they coordinate in their QT.

The only way this fails is if they have already prepared this at night, but that would require me to be scum with them to bring up the idea. (Highly unlikely they have already prepared a time they will post the identical same thing unless I'm a part of the ploy.)

This has to be done today, otherwise they will have the night to coordinate.

Even better: one of the clears tells them what they should post, e.g. post one of Shakespeare's sonnets, or whatever. That way we know for sure it's not something they could have planned beforehand and they have to decide together now.

[Jamiet99uk]

Okay, I’m caught up I think. If I missed any direct questions let me know.

I’m about to head down to Philly for a soccer game, so I’ll be in and out for most of the day. I should be able to get some more productive work in late tonight when I’m back.

Caught up, but nothing to say.
Only looking for references to himself.
No attempt to solve the game or scumread anyone despite being all caught up.
Okay.

[Foxcastle]

@bo: how could voting for a vig claimant possibly be a good town play? He can self confirm his role, and if he is lying, we will find out for sure if nothing happens. Trying to lynch him is super poor and i find it pretty scummy.

##vote bo

If he proves it we can switch

If rdrivera is scum faking claiming vig, he will be confirmed by D2, there is no reason to risk lynching him today. If he is really the vig, he will probably be the NK target.

I'm trying to provoke him into using it.

I'm still digging into Damo, but to justify my vote, this makes me think Damo was pretty happy with Rdrivera shooting, because he was likely to hit town. Rdrivera was aiming at Bozo, emc, flash and Vapor at this point.

[Jamiet99uk]

The masons can very easily prove to us they're town: they post the exact same longish thing at the exact same time which they coordinate in their QT.

The only way this fails is if they have already prepared this at night, but that would require me to be scum with them to bring up the idea. (Highly unlikely they have already prepared a time they will post the identical same thing unless I'm a part of the ploy.)

This has to be done today, otherwise they will have the night to coordinate.

Even better: one of the clears tells them what they should post, e.g. post one of Shakespeare's sonnets, or whatever. That way we know for sure it's not something they could have planned beforehand and they have to decide together now.

Why are you intent on exposing the second mason?

[EspressoPatronum]

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Which is it ItsHo and did you devise this or your partner?

Fishing hard for this one, eh?

##vote Damo

[xorxes]

##VOTE DAMO

Also, Xorxes, why are you pushing so many bad ideas this game? Like ignoring Percy until it's possibly too late? Or not just possibly mislynching a mason, but if it is a mislynch, exposing the other mason for the scum to NK?

There's zero chance we mislynch a mason: they can prove to us they're town.

As for exposing them to the NK, Hosuke did that to himself, and the Mafia probably already know who the other is, it's not that hard to figure out.

[EspressoPatronum]

I've come around to the delayed vote on Percy. We can maybe lynch the roleblocker in the time it takes Percy to activate.

I don't see how Masons can prove they're town, but I also don't want to vote against them. It's more likely the maf team has to kill them to ensure they don't make it to endgame.

[Foxcastle]

##VOTE DAMO

Also, Xorxes, why are you pushing so many bad ideas this game? Like ignoring Percy until it's possibly too late? Or not just possibly mislynching a mason, but if it is a mislynch, exposing the other mason for the scum to NK?

There's zero chance we mislynch a mason: they can prove to us they're town.

As for exposing them to the NK, Hosuke did that to himself, and the Mafia probably already know who the other is, it's not that hard to figure out.

Okay, then why are you chasing masons when there are 5 scumbos out there?

[xorxes]

I've come around to the delayed vote on Percy. We can maybe lynch the roleblocker in the time it takes Percy to activate.

I don't see how Masons can prove they're town, but I also don't want to vote against them. It's more likely the maf team has to kill them to ensure they don't make it to endgame.

This is how they prove they're town:

One of the clears chooses a category (e.g. Shakespeare's poems) from which they must both post the same one at the same time. They can only do this if they can coordinate in a QT.

[Chaqa]

Okay, I’m caught up I think. If I missed any direct questions let me know.

I’m about to head down to Philly for a soccer game, so I’ll be in and out for most of the day. I should be able to get some more productive work in late tonight when I’m back.

Caught up, but nothing to say.
Only looking for references to himself.
No attempt to solve the game or scumread anyone despite being all caught up.
Okay.

Because I follow this pattern: catch up, respond to direct questions, then build cases. I don’t yer have the time to do #3 because I’m on my phone and about to get into the car for a 2 hour drive and a soccer game. Forgive me for not prioritizing a mafia game over watching my cousin play for a professional soccer team.

[xorxes]

##VOTE DAMO

Also, Xorxes, why are you pushing so many bad ideas this game? Like ignoring Percy until it's possibly too late? Or not just possibly mislynching a mason, but if it is a mislynch, exposing the other mason for the scum to NK?

There's zero chance we mislynch a mason: they can prove to us they're town.

As for exposing them to the NK, Hosuke did that to himself, and the Mafia probably already know who the other is, it's not that hard to figure out.

Okay, then why are you chasing masons when there are 5 scumbos out there?

How am I chasing masons?

[Foxcastle]

There's zero chance we mislynch a mason: they can prove to us they're town.

As for exposing them to the NK, Hosuke did that to himself, and the Mafia probably already know who the other is, it's not that hard to figure out.

Okay, then why are you chasing masons when there are 5 scumbos out there?

How am I chasing masons?

... You're spending a lot of time on the mason question. That's what I mean by "chasing masons". I find it ironic that you're unconcerned about Percy because we can deal with him on Day 6 or whatever—when it's possibly too late—while focusing on the masons when Hosuke is either town (in which case they'll have to NK him eventually) or scum (a problem that will probably clarify later when another scum claims), but not urgent.

[dargorygel]

Sigh...
I was feeling better about Percy. But then he went all unsure about his claim.
I am interested in Jamie. He seems very terse and mad, like scumjamie. If there is something else about him, please summarize. I expect to be in full Monday. Your patience is appreciated.

I am going to VOTE ## Percy Williams but will try to scan again if I get the chance.

[Foxcastle]

Hey Bozo:

Currently thinking:

Percy
EMC
Damo
Vapor and...
Chaqa, I guess.

[dargorygel]

##VOTE Percy Williams

[dargorygel]

Hey Bozo:

Currently thinking:

Percy
EMC
Damo
Vapor and...
Chaqa, I guess.

Why vapor?

[Foxcastle]

Hey Bozo:

Currently thinking:

Percy
EMC
Damo
Vapor and...
Chaqa, I guess.

Why vapor?

He's just seemed super scummy to me throughout and I haven't actually done a full ISO on him or anything.

[EspressoPatronum]

I've come around to the delayed vote on Percy. We can maybe lynch the roleblocker in the time it takes Percy to activate.

I don't see how Masons can prove they're town, but I also don't want to vote against them. It's more likely the maf team has to kill them to ensure they don't make it to endgame.

This is how they prove they're town:

One of the clears chooses a category (e.g. Shakespeare's poems) from which they must both post the same one at the same time. They can only do this if they can coordinate in a QT.

Maybe I missed this, but didn't we already determine there's a small possibility of both Masons being mafia? Your way to clear them doesn't work in that scenario.

But again, I don't think we have to worry about this. The maf team has to kill the Masons before the endgame. We should focus on other ppl for now.

[xorxes]

Okay, then why are you chasing masons when there are 5 scumbos out there?

How am I chasing masons?

... You're spending a lot of time on the mason question. That's what I mean by "chasing masons". I find it ironic that you're unconcerned about Percy because we can deal with him on Day 6 or whatever—when it's possibly too late—while focusing on the masons when Hosuke is either town (in which case they'll have to NK him eventually) or scum (a problem that will probably clarify later when another scum claims), but not urgent.

Don't be silly, I have only started looking into masons in the last hour or so when damo suggested they should claim (which I thought was a good idea).

Percy is most likely town. I don't know why you think I've been unconcerned about him. Day 6 will only be too late if we only lynch townies until then and if he is scum, both of which are highly unlikely.

The reason I'm not so happy letting Hosuke slide by now is that he hasn't done anything for town, and the person I think might be their partner is not currently convincing me they're town either.