Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[brainbomb]

how is there still even speculation on me and rivera...

[Jamiet99uk]

Right, so there are mammals that are VT. So Damo hasn't actually made a specific claim, and it's not possible for anyone to meaningfully counter claim.

Why is Xorxes behaving as if Damo has made a serious claim that means he shouldn't be a suspect?

This is very stinky.

[bozotheclown]

percy, jamiet, xorxes, damo, emc

at least 3 scum there

So tomorrow we should lynch from this pool (in alphabetical order):

Chaqa
dargo
emc
Espresso
flash
foodcoats
Jamiet
Vecna

I would be surprised if at least four of the scum are not in there.

There is agreement on Jamie and emc.

[Foxcastle]

how is there still even speculation on me and rivera...

Is this pointed at me? If so, I was being sarcastic. You are both obviously mechanically cleared.

[Jamiet99uk]

I did not like Jamie's strong push to lynch Moscow, I thought he could be bussing Moscow in that situation. Since no one else was interested in voting for Jamie at that time, I switched my vote to Moscow.

So now that we know that Moscow was town and Jamie could not have been bussing, how do you feel about Jaime's vote on Moscow?

I think his vote for Moscow is now NAI, but they way he moved off of Moscow as soon as Moscow started posting leaves me wondering if Jamie knew he would flip town.

You are forgetting that I specifically stated I would move off Moscow if he began to properly participate. I kept my promise.

[Percy Williams]

percy, jamiet, xorxes, damo, emc

at least 3 scum there

If you're still suspecting Percy after his claim that only confirms my hunch that you're scum.

damo also made some pretty specific claims that suggest he is town, and in any case should not be lynched in the near future.

I haven't seen anything from emc to change my scumlean on him, and Jamiet is a null for now.

the fact you keep making dreadfull posts like this only further confirms we did not get town leader xorxes.

How does percy making a weakass claim when he was under no direct pressure make him town? Town would be indignant if they were a strong pr and got wrongly scumread. This was just scum survival. The fact jamiet freaked out just fits in a world where he realized his scummate juat claimed a role that needs to be nightkilled.

But hey, lets see if he dies tonight right? A rolecop. With most coming nights having protectives. Tonigjt is probably scums only chance to kill him to avoid getting a clear or a guilty.

It makes me Town because in a previous game where I was the doc, I also claimed at a time when there wasn't actually any pressure. I really have trouble gauging this like sincerity, tone, and the overall room feel in text. Don't get me wrong, I love this game, but I am playing against my strengths and SUCK at Mafia. It's also just not in my personality to get indignant IRL, and the only times I act that way is sarcastically as a joke.
And my role can only cop scan once, and only after night 5.
Read the OP.

[Jamiet99uk]

Vecna never properly justified his hard scumread on me, even when I addressed him directly in defending myself.

He just knows it's easy to throw shade onto me. I'm an easy target for lazy Vecnas.

[bozotheclown]

Right, so there are mammals that are VT. So Damo hasn't actually made a specific claim, and it's not possible for anyone to meaningfully counter claim.

Why is Xorxes behaving as if Damo has made a serious claim that means he shouldn't be a suspect?

This is very stinky.

Did you read the part where damo said his role would be valuable late in the game?

[worcej]

unless we think Jamie lured 4 town onto moscow to save wolf emc

Based on the list of votes that followed (Percy, rdr (conf town), bozo, ItsHosuke, and Vapor), I don't think it was 4 town. I suspect a scum is inside the 4.

I disagree with almost all of your posts, but I like this one. I'd say it's Percy.

We kill him on D5 then if he's still alive. But I think you're being lazy going after the one guy that's given us the 2nd most info...

[brainbomb]

fox looks pretty unlikely to be scum based on volumetric reasoning.

damo looks well out of his range as scum as well.

I will now begin an in depth look at flash, emc, vapour and bo.

with an eye towards bo specifically because he seems pretty clear as day scum.
his pushes are all on people who arent great at defending themself.

[bozotheclown]

So now that we know that Moscow was town and Jamie could not have been bussing, how do you feel about Jaime's vote on Moscow?

I think his vote for Moscow is now NAI, but they way he moved off of Moscow as soon as Moscow started posting leaves me wondering if Jamie knew he would flip town.

You are forgetting that I specifically stated I would move off Moscow if he began to properly participate. I kept my promise.

You said you would not move off of him until he posted 12 times, but he had only posted 8 times when you changed you vote. Not that I really think that means anything, but it was the part about forgetting how good a player he was that looked suspicious to me. I did not see anything is his 8 posts that warranted that reaction.

[worcej]

Kk, I'm caught up.

The Vig Shot
I don't see why rdrivera was getting so much flak for the vig. He claimed it D1 so he had to use it D1. Barring any strong scum reads, shooting a lurker was his best option. It was an unfortunate result, but I think he went about the decision making in a reasonable fashion.

I think worcej was on to something when he said there was likely a scum on the MF wagon. Percy is my best guess for 2 reasons. 1. I really didn't like his random stick bug claim, and 2. my POE of the others on the wagon puts them all as more town than Percy.

The Tie Vote
Unfortunate, but I don't think anyone is to blame. BB's actions made sense, and it seems Chaqa didn't know his vote would tie it.

Lynchpool
EMC, Percy, Damo.

Not (yet):
Vecna - As stated in my follow-up comments to my earlier readslist, I've got a scumlean on Vecna. I've heard Vecna is good at the game, so I'm willing to wait on this until Vecna has more time to show his true colours.
worcej - I can't tell if my scum read on him is just because I disagree with most of what he's saying. I'm going to sit on this one and give myself time. Pretty sure xorxes is also working out a townslip thing for him rn, so that's another angle.

Town
Aside from the mechanical clears (rdr, BB, and maybe Hosuke?), I'm liking xorxes and Foxcastle. While I dislike bozo's massclaim idea, I think he's town for sticking to it.

rdr got flak because he was considering holstering it. After claiming, the only real option was to pull that trigger.

A Percy lynch, again if you read the thread, does not make sense before D5. If he makes it that long, then I say he dies then.

Not entirely a huge fan of your auto-town list, but okay.

[worcej]

Hosuke, Percy and damo get a temporary pass until their claims are verified or disproven.

I do not agree with giving damo a pass.

+6 on this one currently - just stating 'I have a good role' shouldn't just mean you get to always live.

But let's try it anyways: Hey scum, I have a good role.

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote Damo666 for the same reason as previously stated.

Jamie, why did you vote damo after unvoting Moscow? I have gone back several pages and the best I can find is this - from what I believe was your very first post of the game:

Damo666 looks suspect as fuck, but he's not a very intelligent player so maybe it's just that.

Why does damo look suspect as fuck?

Damo posts a fair amount of volume, but he often avoids specifics and if you look at the majority of his posts, they contain very little useful information. Where he has reasons for things, he dilutes his posts with hedging, and where he has apparently strong feelings, they're either Omgus or poorly explained. Damo is a big ball of noise.

Look at his super hedgy "claim". "Oh, I am a role of some sort, I hard claim I'm an animal". It superficially looks like a claim, but isn't counter-claimable or informative.

[Jamiet99uk]

I think his vote for Moscow is now NAI, but they way he moved off of Moscow as soon as Moscow started posting leaves me wondering if Jamie knew he would flip town.

You are forgetting that I specifically stated I would move off Moscow if he began to properly participate. I kept my promise.

You said you would not move off of him until he posted 12 times, but he had only posted 8 times when you changed you vote. Not that I really think that means anything, but it was the part about forgetting how good a player he was that looked suspicious to me. I did not see anything is his 8 posts that warranted that reaction.

At no point did I say I had forgotten that. You are distorting the narrative.

[worcej]

@Worcej: The role cop only becomes active on Night 4 onwards. That's why Percy's claim is particularly unfortunate.

the exact reason why town would be a lot more carefull when and how to claim it. This last.minute move always smells of scum and just further fits.

+7

Percy's claim was so stupid based on how the situation was shaking out. But you have to also remember, he has done dumb stuff claiming his role out loud when unneeded in the past.

[worcej]

Vapor is very probably town

Why?

[brainbomb]

BOSOX
part 1
48 day 1 posts
pushes on Dargorygel (dargo looks scummy for being overly explanatory in his 1 word gimmick)
pushes on foodcoats (because its the shittiest analysis hes ever seen)

decides foodcoats isnt getting traction, can wait til day 2.
pushes rivera for not shooting anyone

laughs histerically when rivera shoots moscow. asks why he waited 4 hours to kill somone

goes back to foodcoats

and ends phase with
bo_sox48
Day-1 00:09
page 57 / orig ##VOTE emc I guess

Foodcoats needs to happen tomorrow


TLDR: Pretty terrible pushes by bo. little to no explanation for these pushes. No reasoning given on emc. Tries to lynch the vig when the vig wasnt willing to shoot.

Not good

[Jamiet99uk]

I hard claim that I received a role PM with the name of a creature.

Yay, now Xorxes cannot lynch me.

[brainbomb]

BOSOX 2.0
48 posts day 1 this game

M33 as scum
bo had 97 day 1 posts

M34 as Mafia Stalker
had 4 posts

TLDR: Volume is not an indicator of alignment for bo. his complete lack of common sense is occasionally an indicator of his align.