Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

Also:

@ItsHosuke
@Rdrivera

The GM has clearly stated that all roles were assigned at random.

Please do not accuse the GM of lying. It's very disrespectful.

[rdrivera2005]

Ok so first of all I'll ##UNVOTE because Moscow has actually showed up and made some game-related posts.

This is clear proof that pressure voting lurkers is useful play, and I'm gonna do this to Moscow every D1 from now on. Moscow, my friend, thanks for joining us. I remember you're a good player when you make the effort, so hopefully you'll keep up now.

EMC is super weird for keeping his vote on himself for ages while he was the lead wagon, but I see he has moved it now.

@Rdrivera: Why on earth did you claim your role so early, and under no pressure? What was the point of that exactly?

Agree that it's probably not the best play, but I didn't want to lose the chance to use it (and the game was also a bit stagnant). Don't worked as I thought as people either ignored it or gave obvious answers.
I don't think I can get it back, so I will shoot in the next 30 minutes, just buttered to figure out who....

[damo666]

Also:

@ItsHosuke
@Rdrivera

The GM has clearly stated that all roles were assigned at random.

Please do not accuse the GM of lying. It's very disrespectful.

What about Xorxes claiming Masons were treated as a pair and not randomed singly?

[Jamiet99uk]

Updated lynch pool:
bo_sox
Chaqa
emc
flash
Jamie
MoscowFleet
Vecna
worcej

##VOTE Jamie

@Bozotheclown: I understand you've moved your vote since this, but please can you explain why you voted for me?

You seemed to say it was because the slot was lurking, but at the point you cast your vote, I was absolutely not lurking, so that makes no sense.

[foodcoats]

You really think worcej is openly buddying 8+ individuals? Lmao

No, I think worcej is using humour to generate positive feelings from other players. I did not mean strictly "pocketing," but rather utilizing a persona - having style over substance.

Okay, going to poke some holes in this one...

What mechanics did I discuss?
Me saying I think going for lurkers is poor is discussing voting strategy?
I don't do analysis? Did I not provide analysis on my take on Foxcastle? I even sprinkled in some brainbomb analysis in their too if you read it.

You need to try a little more than this if you're going to paint me as scum.

This misses the point. I'm talking about the overall trend of your iso. You are spamming a lot of stuff that doesn't align you to any specific trains of thought or opinions on any players. It looks like you're being helpful at a casual glance, but from the long-term perspective it allows you to avoid leaving any meaningful traces on D1, and I think that is scummy.

This is actually very pertinent to the interaction you had with Fox. I just re-read that interaction and it seems all you did was disagree over whether policy lynching so early in the game was a valid strategy. This is exactly what I mean about your iso... you have a lot to say about nothing.

[damo666]

Huh, don't think rivera actually claimed anything outright? (unless I missed it). He just sorta started talking about it and didn't deny people assuming.

Yes, I did claim a role (which unfortunately turned out be apparently scummy behavior lmao)

but regardless, shooting me is a terrible idea since it'd be a waste of a shot, and I won't even die from the thread properly, and Fox will never be able to see his policy change come to fruition successfully.

OK I believe you.

##Unvote

[rdrivera2005]

Also:

@ItsHosuke
@Rdrivera

The GM has clearly stated that all roles were assigned at random.

Please do not accuse the GM of lying. It's very disrespectful.

I didn't accuse anyone and neither itshosuke, I just pointed he claimed that there is another Mason, so it's either two town or two scum faking it. There is no scenario I can see where one Mason is scum and the other town.

[damo666]

##vote bozo

[Jamiet99uk]

Also:

@ItsHosuke
@Rdrivera

The GM has clearly stated that all roles were assigned at random.

Please do not accuse the GM of lying. It's very disrespectful.

What about Xorxes claiming Masons were treated as a pair and not randomed singly?

That's rather different. Unless the GM has confirmed otherwise, I would assume they first determined randomly which roles would be present, and which would not, and then randomly assigned players into those roles.

In that case, performing the first operation treating the masons as a pair, would be how I would assume it would be done. (If the GM has confirmed the possibility of a single Mason, I apologise - although that would be rather pointless and slightly to town's detriment as the role would then just be a VT).

[damo666]

Also:

@ItsHosuke
@Rdrivera

The GM has clearly stated that all roles were assigned at random.

Please do not accuse the GM of lying. It's very disrespectful.

I didn't accuse anyone and neither itshosuke, I just pointed he claimed that there is another Mason, so it's either two town or two scum faking it. There is no scenario I can see where one Mason is scum and the other town.

What?

Mason cannot be scum!

There are either 0,1 or 2 Masons.

If it's not 2 this leaves room for scum to fakeclaim.

[Jamiet99uk]

Also:

@ItsHosuke
@Rdrivera

The GM has clearly stated that all roles were assigned at random.

Please do not accuse the GM of lying. It's very disrespectful.

I didn't accuse anyone and neither itshosuke, I just pointed he claimed that there is another Mason, so it's either two town or two scum faking it. There is no scenario I can see where one Mason is scum and the other town.

Maybe I mistook your comments, but Itshosuke outright alleged that he was assigned a role specifically due to his ethnicity. This would mean the GM did not randomly roll the roles. So he accuses the GM of lying, because the GM has said that the roles were rolled as a random role roll.

[Jamiet99uk]

What?
Mason cannot be scum!

You're a twit.

He means that if there are no actual Masons, then "Mason" could be a role on the scum fakeclaim list.

Duh.

[Jamiet99uk]

As much as I don't like Bozo's weird illogically explained vote on me, I think he's town. Looking back over his massclaim advocacy it seems like something he strongly felt would legitimately help town.

[damo666]

##GM NOTE

Roles were randomly selected and allocated.

To my reading this includes the possibility of a single Mason.

[foodcoats]

@Foodcoat - Could you also give me a reason to not shoot you?

I think I'm working hard to solve the game here - developing cogent arguments, avoiding "policies" (I'll re-iterate that I voted emc because I believe the play was scummy, not from a policy perspective as some others did) or going purely off meta, scum-hunting by pressuring and following leads - which is a benefit to town.

Also, because I am an active player and don't do little one-word shitposts, it will be easier to get a lynch mob on me later if you actually think I'm scum.

If you are vig, I think you should shoot any one of the active-lurker types (the type who post crap to appear active), because, unless we get an investigative hit, their approach will make it harder to pin them if they are scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok, let's see.

##CALL GM

Is it possible that the random allocation of roles could result in only ONE Mason entering the game? ##Vote Damo666 for the same reason as previously stated.

[damo666]

What?
Mason cannot be scum!

You're a twit.

He means that if there are no actual Masons, then "Mason" could be a role on the scum fakeclaim list.

Duh.

Why did you leave out the third and fourth lines of the quote thus misrepresenting me?

I object to being labelled a twit. Please remember Neph's pre game appeal.

[bo_sox48]

Bozo’s play does not make sense for mafia today. Yall voting him need some solid reasoning.

[rdrivera2005]

I am just torn on what to do now. I can shoot someone now and risk killing a town as I don't have a solid scum read or I can just not shoot and risk being the NK and not using it (at least from what I understand from the rules now, the shot can't be stealed unless I am lynched). So what's the best call?

[e.m.c^42]

Bozo’s play does not make sense for mafia today. Yall voting him need some solid reasoning.

He tastes weird! :d