Mafia 47 - The Sixth Mass Extinction - GAME THREAD [HIDDEN]

[xorxes]

rdr and xorxes debating whether xorxes is likely to be bussing emc if emc is scum based on xorxes' meta is an absolutely ridiculous example.

I've been staring at worcej's posts a lot because they are very different from the other game I played with him/her when they were town. They were much humbler and quieter there.

Funny how you can denigrate meta in one paragraph and then use it yourself in the next.

[xorxes]

Vecna - (claimed - provable)

rdrivera - I like the way he plays. Waiting on an excuse to put him in my town pile.

You found Vecna's Vig claim more believable than rivera's? Or is there some other claim I missed?

[Vecna]

my claims are always believable

[damo666]

Dozen pp to catch up on.

Laters...

[xorxes]

I went to bed last night thinking there would be a dead body here in the morning to analyse, but I see it was a very quiet night.

Given that I may not have another chance to post before EOD, and given that brainbomb has stated he will steal my vote, I'm going to ##VOTE no-lynch so he has the freedom to put two votes on emc at EOD, and also so that my null vote doesn't distort the votecount.

If brainbomb is lying about this, he should be lynched tomorrow.

I will try to check from my phone if I have a chance, but I may not.

[EspressoPatronum]

My reads and thoughts so far:

Town (most to least)
BB - posts bleed town (claimed - apparently provable)
Fox - inquisitive, making good points. proactive.
bozo - I don't see sucm!bozo digging in his heels on the mass claim
Vecna - (claimed - provable)

Townlean
Jamiet - entrance seemed town to me.

Null (no order)
bosox - I liked his wall post.
rdrivera - I like the way he plays. Waiting on an excuse to put him in my town pile.
xorxes - his town gameplay in m1007 was night and day to his maf gameplay in m46. We'll know by D3.
Hosuke - (claimed?)
Vapor - I naturally gravitated to townreading Vapor in m1007 and am finding myself doing that here. I think I like his posting style, so I want to wait a bit to make sure my read on him is legit and not biased by his posting.
Flash - ?
Moscow (policy option)
Percy Williams - he's posted a fair bit, but nothing has stood out to me.

Scumlean
foodcoats - somebody raised a good point about foodcoats appearing active without adding substance. Good observation.
Chaqa - I recall disagreeing with a lot of what he's saying. Will have to go back to check this later.
Dargo - #560 is hedgy and he comes down on bozo for holding the massclaim belief. He also called out Percy for being hedgy in the first few pages of the game.

Scum (least to most)
damo - forced reasoning onto the EMC wagon.
Worcej - Nothing specific. Maybe I just don't like his post style.
emc - reactions to his wagon have been sus. Also a good policy option.

Did I claim?

You said you were vig. I'm not sure if you were joking, so I'm choosing to treat it as real. If not for the vig claim, I was going to put you in null or scumlean.

[EspressoPatronum]

Vecna - (claimed - provable)

rdrivera - I like the way he plays. Waiting on an excuse to put him in my town pile.

You found Vecna's Vig claim more believable than rivera's? Or is there some other claim I missed?

I must have missed rdrivera's claim. Can you point me to it?

The nice thing about vig is it's easy to prove. If Vecna takes it back, I'll change my reads accordingly.

[foodcoats]

(foodcoats) also hasn’t updated his EMC vote which is based off of the first post of the game, a shitpost.

As I said, I think self-voting and peacing out is a scummy play, not a shitpost. And emc hasn't given anyone any reasons to move off them... I think the below summarizes how emc has responded to the wagon:

I feel like I need to post something at least mildly useful, but am drawing a blank atm.

Regarding worcej:

In his last post, he asks brain what made him suspicious of worcej, right after listing why he thinks worcej is suspicious. What’s the point?

The point of asking other players what they think is to create meaningful conversation, compare notes, and develop reads.

I am not voting for MF, but I think MF's analysis of my iso vindicates them and they should not be "policy lynched;" it is one of the best posts so far (even if MF's conclusions about me are wrong ).

[Vaporwave]

Given that I may not have another chance to post before EOD,

xorxes, we're bros this time! I was just thinking if I'll able to squeeze in more posts today

however, I came to mention a thing that never left my mind.

Why I think Vecna is not vig. He's an impatient type, he's his own man and likes to take risks, he basically couldn't wait for someone to claim in a previous game, he just couldn't hold his bullet inside the gun

What makes him have patience now? I think he's not a gunman, he probably would have shot Percy by now

[foodcoats]

I decided to iso worcej to figure out why I was feeling weird about his/her play. worcej has been very active but I don't think they've said much. They've mostly discussed mechanics and voting strategy and they've hammed it up a bunch. The thing that bothers me most in the iso is that worcej takes every opportunity to provide description/commentary or to lead people out with questioning, but never really provides their own analysis. It looks insightful at first glance but provides nothing new to the other players.

This is the closest thing to analysis worcej has posted, but it obviously says nothing and appears to just be an in-joke:

24 hours in. My Impressions:
-Fox was early.
-Vapor is all over.
-bo is old.
-Vecna is behaving as ‘normal’
-brain is doing his analysis mode and bouncing
-bozo is all in on a dumb strategy at the cost of all the town’s protection
-new guys have not inspired any real reaction from me
-emc is behaving based on the early pressure
-Percy is easily confused

I think this is scum!worcej trying to go buddy-buddy with the whole squad... and/or roleplay brainbomb to prevent being read.

##VOTE worcej

[xorxes]

I must have missed rdrivera's claim. Can you point me to it?

These:

Or you might get shot..

I am feeling a bit bored. So, Vecna, considering Ezio isn't playing who do you think should be hip fired D1?

Darg was bombed N1 last game, can't shoot him D1. Chaqa was on my mind, but I also liked his last post.
Moscow is also a good target, I really don't know why he sign up for the games.

I like the idea of lynching Moscow, shooting him won't be fun.

##vote Moscow

That's why I asked for good targets for a shot. Is emc around?

That's much more substantial than Vecna's "claim".

[Vaporwave]

Because I might not come back, I'm not leaving my vote on MF

Moscow won't change even if we policy lynch him for his playstyle + I'm not a player that votes for past offenses so my reason feels non-game related

##VOTE dargorygel

it feels SO much better now

[EspressoPatronum]

I must have missed rdrivera's claim. Can you point me to it?

These:

Or you might get shot..

I am feeling a bit bored. So, Vecna, considering Ezio isn't playing who do you think should be hip fired D1?

Darg was bombed N1 last game, can't shoot him D1. Chaqa was on my mind, but I also liked his last post.
Moscow is also a good target, I really don't know why he sign up for the games.

I like the idea of lynching Moscow, shooting him won't be fun.

##vote Moscow

That's why I asked for good targets for a shot. Is emc around?

That's much more substantial than Vecna's "claim".

Ah, I bolded the one I missed. I interpreted the others as talking with Vecna re who to shoot.

In that case, I'd drop Vecna to scumlean and bump rdrivera to town.

[damo666]

Forced reason, yes. That doesn't make EMC town.

Scum!damo probs thought he needed a novel reason to hop on the EMC wagon.

damo seems pretty not scummy. I cant believe vecna was serious here. had to just be trolling people

I was actually. damo is damn timid and not very genuine so far imo. deff a scum candidate. he can feel free to town it up and write some posts with full coherent sentences or thoughts

I will when there is something worth commenting on.

[damo666]

Bad reasoning isn't always equals to scum reasoning.

so you think someone would genuinely think that emc would say "nope, noone is more scum than me, because im scum myself"?

No, but I think Damo could think this (sorry Damo).

No problem. My post was rather tongue in cheek. Nobody seems to realise this.

However, still happy with my vote parked on Einstein for the spacetimebeing.

[dargorygel]

Maybe this is obv, but it seems that bozo's relentless pursuit of a massclaim makes the most sense if he is the role-thief. One role already responded and claimed mason. And of course, if he DOES convince enough people, he finds a bunch of roles.

[dargorygel]

Regarding my crappy post... it was an anchoring post, if by anchoring I mean 'knowing I was gone a LOT and wanted to get some things noted."

But reading it this morning, I might vote for me.

[rdrivera2005]

I must have missed rdrivera's claim. Can you point me to it?

These:

Or you might get shot..

I am feeling a bit bored. So, Vecna, considering Ezio isn't playing who do you think should be hip fired D1?

Darg was bombed N1 last game, can't shoot him D1. Chaqa was on my mind, but I also liked his last post.
Moscow is also a good target, I really don't know why he sign up for the games.

I like the idea of lynching Moscow, shooting him won't be fun.

##vote Moscow

That's why I asked for good targets for a shot. Is emc around?

That's much more substantial than Vecna's "claim".

Come on Xorxes, I thought I was being subtle.

[damo666]

##GM NOTE

Roles were randomly selected and allocated.

Oh. So there could be one Mason talking to themselves.

Obviously I'm not a Mason.

[damo666]

Hi everyone!

I've just taken over from Mike and I have to admit I'm not at all caught up.

I read pages 22 to 25 and I've done an iso on EMC, and I can see no reason why he's the lead wagon.

Damo666 looks suspect as fuck, but he's not a very intelligent player so maybe it's just that.

I need to read the whole thread and that'll take me a while. In the meantime I'd love the EMC voters to explain why he's the lead wagon.

Thanks Jamie. Too kind.