Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[connorcompton]

Hello.
Thanks for the response. For that question, I'm not sure how to answer that. Appropriate questions could also include: If Fox were Mafia, why mafia NK'd Chippe? if Percy were Mafia, why mafia NK'd Chippe? if Flavius was mafia, why mafia NK'd Chippe? I don't see how Chippe's death counts towards you being town.
Chippe was probably killed because Mafia thought he was BA, they also rb'd ND, because they thought he could be BA. Chippe's death is not very relevant.

Tell me what I am missing;
Mafia is killing Chippe beacuse they believe he is BA. But BA is immune to mafia's nightkills. So nightkill would be only detective here. Why would mafia do this instead of killing someone? - Durga maybe?

Oh, yeah. Nevermind, I missed it.

[connorcompton]

Yeah why didn't ND kill et then?

ND was the only person violently pushing for et's lynch, et being NK'd would've given ND away.

[connorcompton]

I am not going to vote to end, I'd like to see what else et has to say (and will have more time tomorrow to do a bunch of review and speculating). However, if we let all the remaining phases play out, we'll be trying to conclude the game on a Sunday. (D7 ends on Monday, N7 ends on Tuesday, D8 no-lynches on Thursday, N8 ends on Friday, D9 LyLo on Saturday/Sunday). Unfortunately, I have plans next Sunday that absolutely prevent me from being online most of that day.

Can we agree to end-hammer the no-lynch on D8? If we can do that promptly, that would mean we can conclude the game on Friday afternoon. (D8 would end early on Tuesday, N8 would end on Wednesday, leaving Thursday and Friday to play it out.)

We'd also have to end the night prematurely aswell, since I think ending a day just adds time to the night. I'd be fine with that.

[Percy Williams]

I am not going to vote to end, I'd like to see what else et has to say (and will have more time tomorrow to do a bunch of review and speculating). However, if we let all the remaining phases play out, we'll be trying to conclude the game on a Sunday. (D7 ends on Monday, N7 ends on Tuesday, D8 no-lynches on Thursday, N8 ends on Friday, D9 LyLo on Saturday/Sunday). Unfortunately, I have plans next Sunday that absolutely prevent me from being online most of that day.

Can we agree to end-hammer the no-lynch on D8? If we can do that promptly, that would mean we can conclude the game on Friday afternoon. (D8 would end early on Tuesday, N8 would end on Wednesday, leaving Thursday and Friday to play it out.)

We'd also have to end the night prematurely aswell, since I think ending a day just adds time to the night. I'd be fine with that.

I'm fine with hammering then, but I'd like to see what people say in this phase.

[yavuzovic]

Yeah why didn't ND kill et then?

ND was the only person violently pushing for et's lynch, et being NK'd would've given ND away.

Surely but he started this push on Day 2 as he says. He could keep is wrath until Night 2 and notpush him.
Anyway, that seems reasonable and I'm willing to kill et

[Percy Williams]

Yeah why didn't ND kill et then?

ND was the only person violently pushing for et's lynch, et being NK'd would've given ND away.

Surely but he started this push on Day 2 as he says. He could keep is wrath until Night 2 and notpush him.
Anyway, that seems reasonable and I'm willing to kill et

He wouldn't have known ET was scum day 2, there were at least three unclaimed TOwn Power roles. I as the BA wouldn't kill Et until I had too, especially once it was clear he was Mafia, so that the BA can control the balance and engineer himself into the last three.

[Foxcastle]

I am not going to vote to end, I'd like to see what else et has to say (and will have more time tomorrow to do a bunch of review and speculating). However, if we let all the remaining phases play out, we'll be trying to conclude the game on a Sunday. (D7 ends on Monday, N7 ends on Tuesday, D8 no-lynches on Thursday, N8 ends on Friday, D9 LyLo on Saturday/Sunday). Unfortunately, I have plans next Sunday that absolutely prevent me from being online most of that day.

Can we agree to end-hammer the no-lynch on D8? If we can do that promptly, that would mean we can conclude the game on Friday afternoon. (D8 would end early on Tuesday, N8 would end on Wednesday, leaving Thursday and Friday to play it out.)

We'd also have to end the night prematurely aswell, since I think ending a day just adds time to the night. I'd be fine with that.

Yes, this is common. If we end-hammer D8 within a few hours, the N7 deadline would presumably be moved up to fall at 3:00 PM ET the next day.

But to emphasize my main concern: I want an active and engaging final day for game!

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 7.2

et (5) - connorcompton, yavuzovic, Percy Williams, Squigs44, Foxcastle
connorcompton (1) - et

ET is set to be lynched.

23 hours remain in Day 7.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 7.3

et (5) - connorcompton, yavuzovic, Percy Williams, Squigs44, Foxcastle
connorcompton (1) - et

ET is set to be lynched.

19 hours and 51 minutes remain in Day 7.

[Percy Williams]

I think we have the same Situation we had on Damo. You guys wanna hammer?

[et]

ND was the only person violently pushing for et's lynch, et being NK'd would've given ND away.

Surely but he started this push on Day 2 as he says. He could keep is wrath until Night 2 and notpush him.
Anyway, that seems reasonable and I'm willing to kill et

He wouldn't have known ET was scum day 2, there were at least three unclaimed TOwn Power roles. I as the BA wouldn't kill Et until I had too, especially once it was clear he was Mafia, so that the BA can control the balance and engineer himself into the last three.

Please remember at Night2 situation.
We asked BA NK Mafia.
And if I were reporter, I could catch ND easily.
If I were Innocent Child, I might lynch ND soon.
Pushing PR heavily is very dangerous.

[et]

Btw, I want to read Squigs detailed report of the game before this game ends.

[et]

Well, remember that a power role didn't mean scum until much later in the game, and then it's great to know who a Mafia is for emergency balancing purposes.

I realised that to know mafia is great for BA.
But BA don't need to pushing the known Mafia.
If the known Mafia lynched, BA lose superiority.

[et]

About Day6

I think Day6 was very important day.
Very important point is, Mafia didn't know who is BA by mechanically, unless Mafia's NK at Night5 hit BA.
Because there were 4 BA candidate (Flav(yav), Fox, ND, me). If 2 Mafia was in this 4, at least 2 candidate remain.
(Flav(yav)-Fox is unlikely and if so, me and ND remain.)
And, I believe Mafia's NK at Night5 was Chippe.
So, If Mafia priored to lynch BA, they tried to find BA Day6.

I summarize players thought about BA.

1.Connor
He thought Mafia killed Chippe and rb'ed ND. Firstly he said ND is BA or Town, afterward voted ND because he come to think ND is BA.
And he wanted to lynch Mafia rather than BA.

2.Flav
Null. He just voted Fox. He thought Fox is Mafia. (He guessed et-Fox)

3.Fox
He wanted to lynch BA rather than Mafia.
And he thought Mafia should lynch BA.
He claim ND is roleblocked BA, and voted ND. He thought BA shouldn't hold NK.

4.Percy
He thought Mafia's NK hit BA and BA NK'd Chippe. And he wanted to lynch Mafia and voted me.
He thought Mafia's roleblock is for finding BA.(this post is posted in Day7)
He thought Mafia don't dislike lynch Town at Day6(this post is posted in Day7 too). His BA sus was Flav(yav) and Fox.

5.Squigs
He thought NK hit BA and BA NK'd Chippe firstly. Afterward he come to thought Mafia killed Chippe. Null about roleblock (ND's roleblocke was WIFOM, he thought.)
And he thought BA might held NK.
He wanted to lynch BA(at last). And
He thought ND is BA(rather than Mafia) and Fox is Mafia(rather thanBA) at last.
He thought Flav(yav) is BA before Day6.
And voted Fox.

Impression
A.Finding BA and prioring to lynch BA
Fox

B.Finding BA and not prioring to lynch BA so much
Connor Squigs

C.Not Finding BA so much and prioring to lynch Mafia
Flav(yav) Percy

I think Mafia are sharing strategy.
So, I think there are little possibility A-C mafia combination.
This fact rainforce my latest reading list.

[Percy Williams]

4.Percy
He thought Mafia's NK hit BA and BA NK'd Chippe. And he wanted to lynch Mafia and voted me.
He thought Mafia's roleblock is for finding BA.(this post is posted in Day7)
He thought Mafia don't dislike lynch Town at Day6(this post is posted in Day7 too). His BA sus was Flav(yav) and Fox.

I didn't really have any BA suspicious, I figured the Mafia knew and would guide us there for their own survival.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 7.3

et(5) - connorcompton, yavuzovic, Percy Williams, Squigs44, Foxcastle
connorcompton(1) - et

Currently ET remains scheduled to be hung from the neck.

SIX hours and NINE minutes remain in Day 7.

[et]

4.Percy
He thought Mafia's NK hit BA and BA NK'd Chippe. And he wanted to lynch Mafia and voted me.
He thought Mafia's roleblock is for finding BA.(this post is posted in Day7)
He thought Mafia don't dislike lynch Town at Day6(this post is posted in Day7 too). His BA sus was Flav(yav) and Fox.

I didn't really have any BA suspicious, I figured the Mafia knew and would guide us there for their own survival.

Thank you.
[/quote]
The one where he used to agree he should be lynched?
It's actually that whole flavous Foxcastle interaction that means I Town read him. (Unless I review it and he left a loophole in the wording for him being BA)
I think Him and Flavius are not scum, but they could be BA.[/quote]
I interpreted that literally.

[Percy Williams]

4.Percy
He thought Mafia's NK hit BA and BA NK'd Chippe. And he wanted to lynch Mafia and voted me.
He thought Mafia's roleblock is for finding BA.(this post is posted in Day7)
He thought Mafia don't dislike lynch Town at Day6(this post is posted in Day7 too). His BA sus was Flav(yav) and Fox.

I didn't really have any BA suspicious, I figured the Mafia knew and would guide us there for their own survival.

Thank you.

The one where he used to agree he should be lynched?
It's actually that whole flavous Foxcastle interaction that means I Town read him. (Unless I review it and he left a loophole in the wording for him being BA)
I think Him and Flavius are not scum, but they could be BA.

I interpreted that literally.

That just meant I didn't have any reason to say they weren't BA. I was trying to convey that it wasn't a Town read per se, just a Non Mafia read. Because I expected the Mafia to push BA soon, I didn't want to eliminate any as BA potential prematurely.

[Percy Williams]

I didn't really have any BA suspicious, I figured the Mafia knew and would guide us there for their own survival.

Thank you.

The one where he used to agree he should be lynched?
It's actually that whole flavous Foxcastle interaction that means I Town read him. (Unless I review it and he left a loophole in the wording for him being BA)
I think Him and Flavius are not scum, but they could be BA.

I interpreted that literally.

That just meant I didn't have any reason to say they weren't BA. I was trying to convey that it wasn't a Town read per se, just a Non Mafia read. Because I expected the Mafia to push BA soon, I didn't want to eliminate any as BA potential prematurely.


Fixed the quote mess I had copied.

[et]

I didn't really have any BA suspicious, I figured the Mafia knew and would guide us there for their own survival.

Thank you.

The one where he used to agree he should be lynched?
It's actually that whole flavous Foxcastle interaction that means I Town read him. (Unless I review it and he left a loophole in the wording for him being BA)
I think Him and Flavius are not scum, but they could be BA.

I interpreted that literally.

That just meant I didn't have any reason to say they weren't BA. I was trying to convey that it wasn't a Town read per se, just a Non Mafia read. Because I expected the Mafia to push BA soon, I didn't want to eliminate any as BA potential prematurely.

Thank you tell me details.
I realised.